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All-In [26968]
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More people died yesterday, in one day, from COVID
Dec 3, 2020, 8:37 AM
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than died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. All of the government experts and authorities on the subject are warning that it is about to get much worse.
So, our President gave what he described as perhaps his "most important speech" yesterday. It was whining about his personal grievances.
I say again, though the President seems to really want to be the President, he has chosen to completely abdicate leadership on the most important national issue since 9/11.
I truly believe, and I think it's rather inarguable, that the President could literally save lives if he got on TV right now and urged people, with empathy, to wear masks and social distance, and follow CDC and local guidelines.
I think it would literally save people I know and love.
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link?***
Dec 3, 2020, 8:43 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97715]
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Re: link?***
Dec 3, 2020, 8:57 AM
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Re: link?***
Dec 4, 2020, 7:40 AM
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The link is to your brain. Most of us do not need a link to Newsmax or OAN to process information and make rational decisions.
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Re: More people died yesterday, in one day, from COVID
Dec 3, 2020, 8:52 AM
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and yet we still purchase chinese goods, and vote for a crook who takes bribes from them
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I didn’t vote for Ivanka!***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:38 AM
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Oculus Spirit [78884]
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these comparisons about the number of deaths
Dec 3, 2020, 8:57 AM
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need to stop
9/11 terrorist attacks and covid19 are 2 different things
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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Look how many people died on the Titanic vs how many
Dec 3, 2020, 9:06 AM
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people died yesterday from COVID.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Think about how many lives could have been saved had they
Dec 3, 2020, 9:32 AM
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not social distanced on the lifeboats. Disgusting.
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and he thinks a politician getting on tv will save lives***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:25 AM
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All-In [26968]
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I personally know many, many people
Dec 3, 2020, 10:59 AM
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who I believe would start wearing a mask and social distancing more if the President urgently asked them to. They respect him that much.
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Re: and he thinks a politician getting on tv will save lives***
Dec 4, 2020, 6:32 AM
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It actually would have. Trump's cult was convinced it was a hoax and that masks were for libs. Trump could have changed that immediately.
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Lot o points [155894]
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We still haven't yet passed the number of all time
Dec 3, 2020, 9:20 AM
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traffic accident deaths, so I hope these comparisons don't deter us from our goal of eliminating the car.
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Oculus Spirit [97715]
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Lives saved versus lost from automobiles?
Dec 3, 2020, 10:21 AM
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Humm......
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Lot o points [155894]
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Either way, just as relevant as
Dec 3, 2020, 10:24 AM
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People shooting at you or bombing you when it comes to discussing a virus.
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Re: these comparisons about the number of deaths
Dec 3, 2020, 9:29 AM
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Wilmo,
I do not think that Prodigal is comparing the events. He is comparing the executive response to major events in our recent history.
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Lot o points [155894]
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That's the biggest stretch interpretation I've seen in
Dec 3, 2020, 9:33 AM
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a while.
Every single "bigger than 9/11!!!" analogy ever is meant to evoke a visceral response.
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Re: That's the biggest stretch interpretation I've seen in
Dec 3, 2020, 9:59 AM
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well, invoking empathy for some, contempt in others I see.
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Of course they are two different things.
Dec 3, 2020, 10:48 AM
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Every comparison is between two different things. That's why it's a comparison. If the two things were the same, you'd just be saying the same thing twice, not comparing two things.
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Oculus Spirit [78884]
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but comparing a terrorist attack vs a virus
Dec 3, 2020, 10:50 AM
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is dumb
compare a virus vs a virus
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Why?***
Dec 3, 2020, 10:55 AM
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Oculus Spirit [78884]
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well
Dec 3, 2020, 5:03 PM
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9/11 happened on a single day and it was caused by terrorists slamming planes into buildings and heroes forcing a plane into the ground
Also many of the deaths were first responders trying to save people stuck in buildings
covid19 deaths have occurred over 11-12 months and was probably not started on purpose
comparing covid19 to 9/11 is just stupid
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My comparison was one day of deaths.
Dec 4, 2020, 6:24 AM
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You are contrasting the two, which is just as OK as comparing the two.
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Re: but comparing a terrorist attack vs a virus
Dec 3, 2020, 11:06 AM
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I agree, but only because the virus is so much worse! Covid is as mindlessly deadly as Al Qaeda but far more effective, and requires much more from every citizen in order to defeat.
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What makes it irrelevant?***
Dec 3, 2020, 10:54 AM
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A terrorist attack vs a virus. What makes it relevant?***
Dec 3, 2020, 6:02 PM
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The relevance is that the numbers are similar.
Dec 4, 2020, 6:31 AM
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Therefore it is an easy vehicle to contrast our reactions between to the two situations.
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Sammy Sosa hit 63 home runs in 1999.
Dec 4, 2020, 6:42 AM
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He finished 9th in MVP voting. Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs in 1927 and was the most celebrate athlete in America.
I think it's interesting to compare those two home run totals, and the reaction they engendered.
You would say "Irrelevant. Babe Ruth vs. Sammy Sosa".
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Lot o points [155894]
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No, you're making my point for me here.
Dec 4, 2020, 8:10 AM
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Based on what you're doing in this thread, you would say "Sammy Sosa hit 63 home runs in 1999, which is twice as many as the gallons of paint it takes to paint the bowling alley in the Biltmore House". It's meaningless because the two are only connected by having a number attached to them.
If you wish to make a relevant analogy like Ruth vs Sosa, you would need to compare a pandemic to another pandemic, like smallpox, Swine Flu, etc, which is EXACTLY what you're being encouraged to do in this thread.
When you aren't doing that, you're just bringing up an emotional event to shamelessly evoke an emotional response to something wholly unrelated....it's manipulative and discredits your argument to those paying attention.
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OK.
Dec 4, 2020, 8:15 AM
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I completely and unequivocally disagree, but there's not much more I can say.
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Lot o points [155894]
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Fair enough, I can only explain it so many times.....***
Dec 4, 2020, 8:19 AM
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I fully understand what you are saying...
Dec 4, 2020, 8:21 AM
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I just completely disagree with it.
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Lot o points [155894]
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I get it that you don't understand my explanation, which
Dec 4, 2020, 8:27 AM
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is perfectly analogous to how some Germans didn't understand it when Hitler began murdering innocent Jews. Both sadden me.
(See what I did there?)
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Half the country would do the opposite of Trump.
Dec 3, 2020, 9:01 AM
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Everyone is so divided, I can't imagine that people on the other side would listen to anything that Trump has to say.
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He doesn't have anything to say. That's the problem.***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:05 AM
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Trump says tdrake should keep posting about running.***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:21 AM
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^^^POTD^^^***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:27 AM
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You running in them new Stouffer's running shoes?***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:34 AM
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No, but I ate their stuffing on Thanksgiving.***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:44 AM
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They can count covid deaths in a matter of hours
Dec 3, 2020, 9:24 AM
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But take 5 weeks to count votes
weird
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Let’s do the math: 155,000,000 > 2,500 using appropriate nos***
Dec 3, 2020, 9:36 AM
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Re: More people died yesterday, in one day, from COVID
Dec 3, 2020, 9:27 AM
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Prod,
And the saddest thing is, as simple as that would be, his ego wouldn't stand the slight bruise - even though it would save thousands of lives.
In the same way that many of his followers refuse to wear masks for some imagined threat to their freedumb.
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How do the covid deaths in the last hour compare to the
Dec 3, 2020, 9:56 AM
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death count from the Challenger explosion?
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Lot o points [155894]
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Greater than Challenger and that ferry that capsized
Dec 3, 2020, 9:58 AM
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COMBINED.
HOW MANY MORE ASTRONAUT TEACHERS ARE WE WILLING TO KILL????
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Covid, under Trump is like a Columbine every second***
Dec 3, 2020, 10:21 AM
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Re: Covid, under Trump is like a Columbine every second***
Dec 4, 2020, 7:15 AM
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It's like Little Bighorn 10 times a day.
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I'm a simple man.
Dec 3, 2020, 10:20 AM
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I see a funny asian name like Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, or Hirohito, I award a point.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Either Pol or get off the Pot, nomsayin?***
Dec 3, 2020, 10:23 AM
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Re: More people died yesterday, in one day, from COVID
Dec 4, 2020, 7:55 AM
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Whether it’s Covid, the Russia hoax, the border wall, saving coal jobs, Muslim ban, climate denial, race baiting, etc., the Trump presidency has just exposed how vulnerable and gullible some people are. This has nothing to do with politics. Trump is not a Republican. Trump is an excellent con artist and mediocre salesman and he thoroughly conned about 70 million people. I see it in some 70 and 80 year old folks I know. They are good honest people but have no idea they are being conned by Trump and Fox News for last few years of their life. Pretty sad. But don’t worry, our democratic system, or republic, whatever you wanna call it, is much stronger than any individual, and much stronger than Trump. He will dwindle into irrelevance. His kids don’t “have it”, they are going nowhere politically. Very soon, order will be restored. We will no longer have a puppet for an attorney general and we will have honest American citizens governing.
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Re: More people died yesterday, in one day, from COVID
Dec 4, 2020, 7:55 AM
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Whether it’s Covid, the Russia hoax, the border wall, saving coal jobs, Muslim ban, climate denial, race baiting, etc., the Trump presidency has just exposed how vulnerable and gullible some people are. This has nothing to do with politics. Trump is not a Republican. Trump is an excellent con artist and mediocre salesman and he thoroughly conned about 70 million people. I see it in some 70 and 80 year old folks I know. They are good honest people but have no idea they are being conned by Trump and Fox News for last few years of their life. Pretty sad. But don’t worry, our democratic system, or republic, whatever you wanna call it, is much stronger than any individual, and much stronger than Trump. He will dwindle into irrelevance. His kids don’t “have it”, they are going nowhere politically. Very soon, order will be restored. We will no longer have a puppet for an attorney general and we will have honest American citizens governing.
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I personally know so many older people
Dec 4, 2020, 8:03 AM
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who don't take the virus seriously enough for their own health. It's heart-breaking. They are listening to bad voices.
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