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But those 25 aren't the only people who were democrats

Jun 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

Party switchers in the 60's and 70's

1960–1969
1960s – Arthur Ravenel Jr., South Carolina State Representative, later U.S. Representative from South Carolina (1987–1995)
1960 – Claude R. Kirk Jr., later Governor of Florida (1967–1971)
1960 – Charlton Lyons
1962 – Dave Treen, later U.S. Representative from Louisiana (1973–1980) and Governor of Louisiana (1980–1984)
1962 – Jack M. Cox, former Texas State Representative
1962 – James D. Martin, later U.S. Representative from Alabama (1965–1967)
1962 – Ronald Reagan, while an actor and former Screen Actors Guild president.[11] Later 33rd Governor of California (1967-1975) and 40th President of the United States (1981–1989)
1962 – Floyd Spence, South Carolina State Representative, later a U.S. Representative from South Carolina (1971–2001)
1963 – Rubel Phillips, former Mississippi Public Service Commissioner
1963 – Stanford Morse, Mississippi State Senator
1963 – James H. Boyce
1964 – Alfred Goldthwaite, Alabama State Representative
1964 – Clarke Reed
1964 – Howard Callaway, later U.S. Representative from Georgia (1965–1967) and United States Secretary of the Army (1973–1975) [12]
1964 – Iris Faircloth Blitch, former Georgia U.S. Representative (1955–1963)
1964 – Charles W. Pickering, later Mississippi State senator and judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi (2004)
1964 – Strom Thurmond, while U.S. senator from South Carolina (1954–2003).[13]
1965 – Albert W. Watson, while U.S. Representative from South Carolina (1963–1971) (resigned before switching parties and regained his seat in a special election)[14]
1965 – Roderick Miller, Louisiana State Representative
1966 – Marshall Parker, South Carolina State Senator
1966 – Joseph O. Rogers Jr., South Carolina State Representative
1966 – Thomas A. Wofford, former U.S. Senator from South Carolina (1956)
1966 – Len E. Blaylock, later U.S. Marshal for the Eastern District of Arkansas (1975–1978)
1966 – Jerry Thomasson, Arkansas State Representative
1966 – Henry Grover, Texas State Representative
1967 – Thad Cochran, later U.S. Senator from Mississippi (1978–2018)
1967 – William E. Dannemeyer, later U.S. Representative from California (1979–1992)
1967 – Allison Kolb, former Louisiana State Auditor (1952–1956)
1968 – William Reynolds Archer Jr., while a Texas State Senator, later U.S. Representative from Texas (1971–2001)
1968 – Will Wilson, former attorney general of Texas (1957–1963)
1968 – James L. Bentley, Comptroller General of Georgia (1963–1971)
1968 – Gerald J. Gallinghouse, later United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Louisiana (1970–1978)
1970–1979
1970 – Jesse Helms, later U.S. Senator from North Carolina (1973–2003)
1970 – A. C. Clemons, Louisiana State Senator
1970 – William Oswald Mills, later U.S. Representative from Maryland (1971–1973)
1970 – Bob Barr, later U.S. Representative from Georgia (1995–2003)
1971 – Tillie K. Fowler, later U.S. Representative from Florida (1993–2001)
1972 – Ed Karst, Mayor of Alexandria
1972 – Robert R. Neall
1972 – Trent Lott, later U.S. Representative from Mississippi (1973–1989) and U.S. Senator from Mississippi (1989–2007)[15]
1973 – Mills E. Godwin Jr., former governor of Virginia (1966–1970) and Lieutenant Governor of Virginia (1962–1966). Later Governor of Virginia (1974–1978)
1973 – Samuel I. Hayakawa, later U.S. Senator from California (1977–1983) [16]
1973 – John Connally, former United States Secretary of the Treasury (1971–1972) and former governor of Texas (1963–1969)
1975 – Elizabeth Dole, later United States Secretary of Transportation (1983–1987), United States Secretary of Labor (1989–1990) and U.S. Senator from North Carolina (2003–2009)
1975 – John Jarman, while U.S. Representative from Oklahoma (1951–1977)[17]
1976 – Rob Couhig
1977 – A. J. McNamara, Louisiana State Representative
1977 – Lane Carson, Louisiana State Representative
1978 – Robert G. Jones, Louisiana State Senator
1978 – Chris Smith, later U.S. Representative from New Jersey (1981–present).[18]
1978 – Thomas Bliley, Mayor of Richmond, Virginia, and later U.S. Representative from Virginia (1981–2001)
1978 – Michael F. "Mike" Thompson, Louisiana State Representative
1979 – Charles Grisbaum Jr., Louisiana State Representative
1979 – Ed Scogin, Louisiana State Representative
1979 – Armistead I. Selden Jr., former U.S. Representative from Alabama (1953–1969) and United States Ambassador to New Zealand (1974–1979)

And the issue shift was real:

Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.

These defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” held a separate convention in Birmingham, Alabama. There, they nominated South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, a staunch opposer of civil rights, to run for president on their “States’ Rights” ticket. Although Thurmond lost the election to Truman, he still won over a million popular votes.

It “was the first time since before the Civil War that the South was not solidly Democratic,” Goldfield says. “And that began the erosion of the southern influence in the Democratic party.”

After that, the majority of the South still continued to vote Democratic because it thought of the Republican party as the party of Abraham Lincoln and Reconstruction. The big break didn’t come until President Johnson, another Southern Democrat, signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act in 1965.

Govenor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, was nominated as States' Right candidate at the rump convention held in Birmingham on by southern recalcitrants. The Southerners took this drastic action after the Democratic convention added President Truman's civil rights program of its party platform. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images)
Govenor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, was nominated as States’ Right candidate at the rump convention held in Birmingham on by southern recalcitrants. The Southerners took this drastic action after the Democratic convention added President Truman’s civil rights program of its party platform. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images)

Though some Democrats had switched to the Republican party prior to this, “the defections became a flood” after Johnson signed these acts, Goldfield says. “And so the political parties began to reconstitute themselves.”

The change wasn’t total or immediate. During the late 1960s and early ‘70s, white Southerners were still transitioning away from the Democratic party (newly enfranchised black Southerners voted and continue to vote Democratic). And even as Republican Richard Nixon employed a “Southern strategy” that appealed to the racism of Southern white voters, former Alabama Governor George Wallace (who’d wanted “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever”) ran as a Democrat in the 1972 presidential primaries.

By the time Ronald Reagan became president in 1980, the Republican party’s hold on white Southerners was firm. Today, the Republican party remains the party of the South. It’s an ironic outcome considering that a century ago, white Southerners would’ve never considered voting for the party of Lincoln.

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Charles Pickering - In the early 1960s, Pickering was active in the Democratic Party, but he switched affiliation in 1964 to the Mississippi Republican Party. At the time, Pickering said that “the people of his state were heaped with humiliation and embarrassment at the Democratic Convention” in Atlantic City, New Jersey. At the convention, African Americans, who had been disenfranchised in the Deep South except during Reconstruction, formed the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party to challenge the party regulars. A month before the convention, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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Trent Lott -While an undergraduate at the University of Mississippi, Lott participated in the effort at the 1964 national convention of the Sigma Nu fraternity to oppose a civil rights amendment proposed by the Dartmouth College and Duke University chapters to end mandatory racial exclusion by the fraternity. Lott sided with the segregationists who defeated the amendment. The Dartmouth chapter subsequently seceded from the fraternity, and Sigma Nu remained whites-only until later in the decade. Lott worked for William Colmer - a conservative democrat - in DC before running as a republican to replace him when he resigned.

This is just a freaking sample, but the issue shift had a considerable impact on the southern democratic party. Note, I'm not saying all the racists left, I'm saying the ones that didn't had to, at least publicly, change their tune on race relations.

And the book you cited doesn't discount the race factor, it just suggests it wasn't the only factor as economic shifts contributed as well. But suggesting that race wasn't a primary driver of the change is just wrong.

Re: Maybe you can replace these voters with an illegal aliens.

Good God almighty I want to give that woman a hug.

Re: Good God almighty I want to give that woman a hug.

It disproves the myth that all blacks are...

I’m just encouraged by the erosion of 70+ years of

So you're saying politicians didn't actually switch parties?

that is overblown BS and always has been.

No it isn't...

Stats suggest otherwise.

Also, I have the confuse. Are you saying the exodus didn’t

It's not confusing man, I promise.

Joe, Ford, Cock2011.......I've enjoyed it.

I think we’re both probably right to a certain extent. Of

I get the racist aspects of Wallace supporters, although he

Re: Good God almighty I want to give that woman a hug.

What? There was a huge party shift of southern Dems to

No Obed hug for you***

What had happened to you?

You know that out of the 25-ish Dixiecrats, a party

But those 25 aren't the only people who were democrats

Am I the only person that didn't know Pence was

Re: But those 25 aren't the only people who were democrats

Broseph, what in the world is this list?

You’re wrong and I think what you’re missing is that

Your ancedotal observation doesn’t overturn my

It’s more than an anecdotal observation. Name one state

Wait, you're carrying this whacky shift theory up through 90

Arthur Ravenel...

No the book directly points out, in great detail,

Not only did they make it all up...

Re: Maybe you can replace these voters with an illegal aliens.

I asked you not to pick at the edges.

Naive?

My bad.

Re: My bad.

Re: My bad.

Re: My bad.

Of the 21 senate dems who voted against it, wanna

Re: Of the 21 senate dems who voted against it, wanna

No, they didn’t just say “I quit” after the CRA.

Re: No, they didn’t just say “I quit” after the CRA.

Whatever helps you sleep amigo.***

Having been alive and cognitive during the civil rights...

Illegal aliens don’t have time to vote

If you ignore the systemic racism of America's...

Immigrants have always filled the entry level jobs

Oppression has always happened so why complain now?

Why work when the dumbarsss dems will give you free money

Nice to see a different view from blacks, but

I give credit to the woman she's speaking to. She obviously

Her best points are about 'party' policy

Luckily illegals can’t vote!***

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