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Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 7:02 AM
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Very interesting map. The south statistically has the 2nd lowest death rate by region in the country. In SC blacks are killed by police 1.13 times more than whites whereas in Massachusetts that number is 4.04. I agree it is a problem in some ares but in our state black deaths by police are pretty much equal to white deaths by police. Certainly not worthy of violent protest that you see in our state or neighboring states. Have protest where problem exist.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2020/05/mapping-police-killings-black-americans-200531105741757.html
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Who are you going to believe Ajazerra or the Wall Street
Jun 5, 2020, 7:28 AM
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Journal? Black people are convicted of more crime because of racism, they actually don't commit more crimes.
For example, much of the violence and looting recently has been started by White Supremacist. This had been widely reported. Yet many will still blame oppressed minorities for the violence and looting.
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Re: Who are you going to believe Ajazerra or the Wall Street
Jun 5, 2020, 7:56 AM
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That is a tough question. I don't think we have a true NEWS reporting media anymore.
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Re: Who are you going to believe Ajazerra or the Wall Street
Jun 5, 2020, 8:30 AM
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Only if by white supremacist you mean antifa. Which on one hand it is often argued that white supremacist are ideologically a left wing group as is antifa so you may be on to something there. However otherwise there is no evidence that these crimes are being committed by white supremacists but are really being committed by antifa which does happen to be made up of mostly young white left wing folk.
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Re: Who are you going to believe Ajazerra or the Wall Street
Jun 5, 2020, 10:04 AM
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I read about this other group responsible for a lot of the violence as well, but can't remember the name of the group. They even had an interview with one of the members. That group wants there to be a new civil war, and has members who help push for the violence in situations like these with a goal of making it look like the minorities fault. They also have members who take the other side and point the finger at minorities. They also have members who spend time on social media stirring up issues on both sides. Apparently, they openly walk around in public carrying rifles.
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BOOGALOO
Jun 5, 2020, 10:12 AM
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is the other group they’ve been investigating recently.
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Re: Who are you going to believe Ajazerra or the Wall Street
Jun 5, 2020, 10:16 AM
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I believe you are thinking of the Boogaloo movement, which is more of an anti-government movement than a white supremacist movement. They want a civil war to overthrow the government and some white supremacist groups have glommed on later to make it into a race war. At least that is my understanding.
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Re: Who are you going to believe Ajazerra or the Wall Street
Jun 5, 2020, 10:27 AM
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Yes, that's the one.
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I've heard the idea that it's white supremacists
Jun 5, 2020, 11:48 AM
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starting the looting. I think people really want to say it's white people, and each side jsut picks which white group they want to say it is. But my question is
No matter who starts the vandalism or breaks into stores, does that excuse everyone else from looting or following? I get it if someone in a crowd works up others to a frenzy, but it's still an individual's choice to loot or vandalize. I feel like peer pressure is being made a scapegoat
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Ultra conservative black girl...
Jun 5, 2020, 1:07 PM
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I really don't agree with anything she says or stands for. I guess we all have our preferences.
I will say this though - Rush Limbaugh, who I also fundamentally disagree with on about any issue, went on a black radio show the other day.
I have to commend him. Honest discourse and dialog is what this country needs now. Seems like we are so tribal and closed minded these days.
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 7:20 AM
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So much data missing. What is the percentage of blacks committing crime? How many people that were killed, were holding a gun? Fact: More UNARMED white people were killed by police last year. I’ve had 3 crimes committed against me in my life, all by blacks. So, 13% of the population committed 100% of the crime against me. Now, how many police were killed in that same time span by blacks? Seems to me the problem is crime. Now when police start killing blacks standing in line at the dmv, I’ll be outraged.
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 10:06 AM
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What were the 3 crimes committed against you?
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 7:24 AM
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Per Washington Post this is totally false. Then I saw where it came from "Aljezra" Goodness these 2 news outlets fight to be the most liberal news media outlets in the world.You will have to look extremely hard but watch for the retraction of this story soon.
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 7:32 AM
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I agree with you CH. You have to get your info from a reputable source. We can't be sheep and just follow the herd. Do your own research from multiple sources and somewhere in their lives the true facts.
I mean this about any story. Be slow to believe, but be slower to condemn.
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respectfully, this is a national issue
Jun 5, 2020, 7:41 AM
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We should support peaceful protests
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 7:59 AM
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Why is this in the football forum?
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 7:59 AM
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Why is this in the football forum?
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Heard a possible big day for Clemson football today.
Jun 5, 2020, 9:25 AM
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Come to Tiger town Troy!!
Message was edited by: MyfavOrange®
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 9:38 AM
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Not a good statistical map, uses total population vs population that encounters police (arrests are generally used to track that data point). It's also spread over several years and not on an annual basis which inflates the numbers and provides no year to year look. The actual rate nationwide in 2017 (last year of FBI stats) is 1.3x more blacks are killed by cops than whites. Here are the stats and the source:
2,003,649 Blacks arrested / 1262 deaths / 0.00062%./ 62 per 100k
5,240,842 Whites arrested / 2412 deaths / 0.00046% / 46 per 100k
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43?fbclid=IwAR1y0e_dBtW445UOujYvPcCh-wQFEY28XgxM6q0jTlge3y9s5TapQPdG2r8
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 11:01 AM
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What does this have to do with Clemson sports?
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 11:55 AM
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there are massive sentencing disparities in this state between black and white defendants. Part of it may well be that poor black defendants are much more likely to have mail-it-in public defenders than slightly better off white defendants who have families that can pool resources to hire some slightly better ambulance chaser, but racism is endemic in this state, as in many states, when it comes to the justice system. The entire chain gang system was established initially to provide a steady supply of black people to do the sorts of labor that slaves used to do, and to act as a deterrent to any black man with thoughts of getting uppity.
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Re: Map showing black deaths by police by state
Jun 5, 2020, 2:15 PM
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" I agree it is a problem in some ares but in our state black deaths by police are pretty much equal to white deaths by police."
That isn't a good thing. Blacks only represent 28% of the population of SC. Deaths by cop should be a third of deaths for whites, not equal.
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