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MORE SHAMELESS ESPN garbage...

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 6:47 AM
 

Fellow Tigers, it's rare for me to go ballistic during a ballgame at action other than on the gridiron, but last night's SEC homerism by the ESPN yardbirds was too much! There we are with action on the field, and the jackas$es are showing SEC video and discussing teams...and finally interrupted themselves to cover the field play. I'll tell you, I know the network has provided viewing venues for most sports, but their constant promotion of their own products, particularly the SEC, has in my opinion created an unfair advantage toward every school that doesn't belong to the SEC. I don't hold a J.D., but that domination and control has all the appearances of a monopoly that is sullying collegiate athletics. It's one thing to grow a business and execute contracts in the process to abet the growth, it's a horse of a different color when you gain predominance and then shamelessly promote a product via an assortment of means at the expense of competing brands...I call it stifling competition through control of a vast market. I believe our laws attack such as anti-trust. And the worst aspect is the gutlessness of the conferences, member schools and the NCAA itself to address and attack the practices, even considering contracts involved. I don't know, but the whole ESPN cr@p is in my opinion one of the most despicable developments in collegiate sports.


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Absolutely spot on. One more thing..

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 6:57 AM
 

All this talk about the MONEY that they get makes it uneven. H3ll..its NOT the money...its the nonstop pounding of the drum for all things SEC. If you talked about the MAC that much they would get better. There is a reason advertising works...


And your last sentence especially is spot on!***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:31 AM
 

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Class Action??***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:58 AM
 



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I just don't know, FishinCrazy, but I believe that the


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 10:08 AM
 

discontent will continue to grow across the nation to the point that someone, somewhere, somehow will have to address the issue. Although there are mega-bucks involved in ESPN's market, there are, also, mega-bucks involved generated by the schools themselves, as well as each school's supporters. And who knows when some member of the Justice Department, who happens to be a strong supporter of a non-SEC school, won't launch some type of probe?

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This is the reason Miss St. is #11 and UGA #10

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:13 AM
 

Go look at either of their schedules. They have not played or beat anyone of substance. Just because they play in the ESPN sponsored SEC, they rocket up the rankings.

If any ACC school not named FSU, VT, Miami, or Clemson had Mississippi St. record and schedule, they would be ranked about #17


yes, GA being ranked that high seals the deal, it gross how

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:15 AM
 

biased it is. All about the $$


Re: yes, GA being ranked that high seals the deal, it gross how

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:28 AM
 

Thats all ESPN! Is about money! SEC is their *&ore


Well said...

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:36 AM
 

Don't think other schools and conferences haven't noticed--they have. I think almost everyone outside of the SEC is sick of the shameless promotion at the expense of all others. I wish someone could come up with a viable way to let them know where it hurts--$$$$. People tend to get upset, yet they still watch SEC games that ESECPN airs. A massive boycott would work, but I can't see that ever happening.

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ESPN = MONPOLY,,,,,they got us by the ballz***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:41 AM
 




MONOPOLY***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:42 AM
 




Yep***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:11 AM
 

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Don't remember the site, but one on the west coast


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:39 AM
 

referenced by a TNetter recently (I think Oregon) was loaded with similiar attacks against ESPN. I told friends some time ago that I was certain the anti-ESPN mood was more widespread than most people realize. And I think it will only increase.

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I know it's happening at Michigan too***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:03 AM
 

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Oklahoma (and Oklahoma State) as well....***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:09 AM
 



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The Oregon people were ranting about it last year and

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 12:02 PM
 

have continued this year. It's certainly more than just some within the ACC fed up with it.

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I don't know about the legalities of it either, but that's

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:56 AM
 

exactly what ESPN is doing.

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Not a monopoly

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:11 AM
 

ESPN/ABC isnt the only game in town for football viewing. Regional networks like those of Raycom and Fox. Nationally you have CBS (though more SEC). And ESpN shows more than just the SEC.

They were promoting upcoming programming so people would watch in high numbers and advertisers would be happy. Then the advertisers would pay more money when it was time contract renewals. Then ABC/Disney would see revenues climb and their share price as well. People who owned Disney in their 401k would feel better about themselves and so would go out and buy a new GM car. This would cause GM to increase production and hire more workers which in turn would reduce unemployment. Higher employment means a stronger USA in theory.

So if you hate on ESPN you are hating on the USA. And that is just plain shameful.

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LOL....Then, by George, we should be attacking Mickey Mouse


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:20 AM
 

and Donald Duck! DOWN WITH THE RAT AND QUACKER!

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For some reason I felt the need to "boo" ***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:24 AM
 

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HaHaHaHa....Please! Careful, IT'LL get started again....***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:42 AM
 



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They probably wouldn't buy a GM, if they own Disney in their

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:49 AM
 

401k they probably go foreign.

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Did we miss a play last night while they were discussing the

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:12 AM
 

SEC last night? I think we did. And, I get sick of looking at the booth until just before the ball is snapped. I want to see who is on the field and how we are lined up. I want to be able to anticipate what is about to happen.This crap of switching back to the field just before the play is run is terrible.

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Re: Did we miss a play last night while they were discussing the

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:16 AM
 

They are used to the slow SEC offenses where they have time for a break between plays. We threw them off their game.


Yes, the down time while they set up for field goals***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:26 AM
 

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Actually, you may be on to something. Our SPEED was just


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:39 AM
 

too SECish or something?

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That's precisely what caused my flare-up. They were showing


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:17 AM
 

video of SEC play and discussing SEC teams, then switched back to field action which had begun...and yet, momentarily continued the SEC hype.

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The best solution is for the ACC product to be respectable.***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:25 AM
 



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44-11 forty four to eleven 44-11 forty four to eleven 44-11***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:39 AM
 




I think someone got in their ear and told them to shut up

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:35 AM
 

and cover the game. It went on and on for a while there and I muted the TV because they were so distracting. I don't care WHO they were talking about, it was NO ONE INVOLVED IN THE GAME THEY WERE BEING PAID TO COVER.

I would have fired them or demoted them to AA after what I saw last night. Totally unacceptable and unprofessional especially for a Thursday night game.

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I'll tell you, Tiggity, that was the impression I got, as


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:45 AM
 

they went on and on, then abruptly quit as if they had been interrupted by someone. And every football fan in this nation watching the game with common sense and decency should have been offended, also.

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Yes, I too went ballistic

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:51 AM
 

incredibly unprofessional in my opinion.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:00 AM
 



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Just be thankful that ESPN carries Games that otherwise


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:02 AM
 

wouldn't make it on TV. Talk about ungrateful!


How's that 55% graduation rate working out in Columbia?***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:07 AM
 

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I just think ESPN is great. Many more options to watch games


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:17 AM
 

on TV than we had with the 3 networks. People are just spoiled!


Horsemanure! I clearly mentioned that I understood how


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:19 AM
 

ESPN has provided venues. However, throughout history there have been many entities that have provided access to many products to the American people. Yet, we as a people determined that those provisions were tainted to the point of stifling competitive pricing. And we have taken action, and in most cases the American people have benefitted from those actions. Teddy Roosevelt's trust-busting comes to mind along with subsequent ones...think AT&T....

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Don't kill the goose that laid the golden egg is all I am


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:22 AM
 

saying. We could still see the game. Just mute it. Problem solved


I'm not going to argue the point, TFJ, as you are entitled


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:25 AM
 

to your opinion. However, I will say this: I strongly suspect that quite a number of people across this nation are beginning to wonder if that goose has been laying rotten eggs!

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Totally concur***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 10:05 AM
 



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Notre Dame is just as bad***

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 12:13 PM
 



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I honestly think they negotiated the ACC deal because they


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 12:59 PM
 

believed that the new playoff system would eventually force their move into a conference in all sports, especially given their lack of predominance over the recent past. Sooner rather than later, enough of the powerhouses would revolt with any special status given to ND. The move to join the ACC at least partially I think was in recognition of their history of strong presence and recruiting along the east coast. The ACC IMO allowed ND to gain the edge in the deal in two ways: by not requiring full membership upon the expiration of the ND/NBC deal in 2015 and by increasing the buyout to $50 million, which I think was a ND demand to force retention. While acknowledging ND's storied past and their following which will probably ensure football game sellouts in the ACC when they play members, I just believe no one school should merit special status above all others. Hate to wish ill upon them, but I believe the best option for the ACC now is for ND to lose enough games to strike blows against that special status.

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If we're going after monopolies let's end the NCAA***


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 1:04 PM
 



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LOL....Over the years I've heard various people say that we


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 1:28 PM
 

need to end the dominance of Charleston over the state, which baffled me considering the long time Barnwell Ring influence. Of course, there's now recurring talk in Columbia of a low country and up country hegemony over the Midlands. Then again, most South Carolinians actually think there's too much control centered in Columbia. No wonder the whole state is confused! And as for the NCAA...not quite sure they have clues about anything!

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While not a Monopoly by any stretch of the word, I don't

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 1:51 PM
 

see how it is not an impermissible recruiting advantage to have one team or group of schools promoted so heavily and force fed down the throat of the nation. Recruits see this, and they are thinking one thing: SEC= BIG TIME exposure. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Yet, the NCAA allows it to go on. The Special features of training camp at Alabama, the inside look at Will Muschamp... It's an invasive and subliminal kind of pushing: If you want people to see you, you'll play for or against these teams. I've often thought that the special features at college campuses like the aforementioned special shows should be outlawed by the NCAA. It's going to have to change eventually anyway, or college football will be destroyed.

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You raise valid points; yet, given the history of the NCAA,


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:17 PM
 

they are suspect at best for any attempt to exert better control. Kind of reminds me of the tail wagging the dog, when we use ESPN and the NCAA in the same sentence.

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I'm not saying it is right, but this is how TV works.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:23 PM
 

All programs promote a stations other programs and interest. Look at how bad the ratings got for NBC when they lost football. Sure, they had bad shows but other networks didn't really have better. NBC simply lost the ability to show clips and drum up interest during the NFL games.

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Re: I'm not saying it is right, but this is how TV works.


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:35 PM
 

They were losing so many viewers that they had to talk about something that football fans are interested in (SEC FOOTBALL)....not that pitiful example of a football game in front of 21,000 fans.


Comments bound to garner some type of following...


Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:45 PM
 

more than likely those of a less genial nature, I suppose. Then again, you may be onto something, for during the past 50 years I've certainly seen my share of pis$-poor games in all the conferences.

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Re: MORE SHAMELESS ESPN garbage...

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:55 PM
 

Preach on brother, I'm with you!!

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Re: MORE SHAMELESS ESPN garbage...

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 3:14 PM
 

I was thinking the same thing while watching the game last night. It makes me sick.


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