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Talking about the IRONY...
Aug 13, 2020, 10:11 AM
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I know , know I should not go over there but I get bored sometimes I need a laugh. Coots on their board talkin about expanding the $ec with teams from the Big 10, like Nebraska and Penn State. they are discussing how they would love to trade Missouri for one of those teams when in reality, most teams in their own conference would love to trade them!!!
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Re: Talking about the IRONY...
Aug 13, 2020, 10:22 AM
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Even funnier is that Mizzou has won the SEC East twice in their short stint, actually made an appearance in one of the better SEC CG from a spectator perspective (the 2013 was a good game) with 500+ years from both teams), and was a potential BCS contender until the SEC game.
Meanwhile, the coots only appearance also marks the biggest margin of victory... or defeat in their case. At least a 6-7 ACC team was able to take the SEC champ into overtime.
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UofSuCk is .500 against Mizzou***
Aug 13, 2020, 10:24 AM
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Sounds like the coots need a dose of reality...
Aug 13, 2020, 10:25 AM
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...and a geography lesson (Admittedly ACC isn't much better on the geography deal, but Penn State is certainly not SOUTH and Nebraska is neither SOUTH nor EAST. Then you have Arkansas, Texas A&M and Missouri - those schools scream SOUTHEAST).
What will they rename their conference?
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Re: Sounds like the coots need a dose of reality...
Aug 13, 2020, 10:34 AM
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Arky and Texas is southern culture with an eastern slant. They definitely are not "southwest" like NM/AZ. Considering nearly all of Texas's population is in eastern half of the state, it is southeast.
Mizzou is at least as "southern" as Kentucky.
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I think you need a geography lesson, too, but we can agree
Aug 13, 2020, 11:32 AM
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to disagree. I understand your point, that Arkansas and Texas are culturally more similar to the Southeast than the Southwest, but geographically, they are neither, and I think most Texans and Arkansans would agree.
And Missouri may be as "Southern" as Kentucky, but it is certainly not "Eastern".
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Re: I think you need a geography lesson, too, but we can agree
Aug 13, 2020, 1:35 PM
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Actually, geographically-and-culturally, Texas is south-eastern. Geographically, and especially considering where the population resides, is without the Gulf of Mexico Watershed. If you were to draw the continental US and split it along the cardinal directions, almost all of Texas's population would be in the south east (barely). Geographic center is Lebanon KS in in the central part of the state along the NE boarder.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/WduBCqjagbEEDuGH0EXIGruJZY1uubg2-ln7I6wPDrfsmyUKJrZ1_JGwUJZDmn6pgJPprZKbr6ffzTP8VZ8lCfsWfYlNmkRWCRpqZz-sNnESc_EWsmybgjL5flJc
Which side of the war did Texas fight on during the war of nawthern aggression?
Now, Texas has its own identity issues - for it being a part history- but keep in mind that from which branch did the early "Texas" evolve from.... deep southern. Actually, good sections of east Texas would be culturally identical to that of LA, AR, and Miss.
When you start digging into Texas's demographics, they are southestern with cowboy boots.
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As I said before, we can agree to disagree
Aug 13, 2020, 1:46 PM
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You are not going to convince me. And I still bet that if you asked 1000 Texans what region they lived in, 950 would say "Texas" and fewer than 10 would say "Southeast". I am guessing that the remainder would either say "South" or "Plains", depending on where in Texas they lived. I would be curious to hear any Texans chime in on what they think.
Anyway, the original point was that neither Nebraska nor Penn State would be a geographical fit for the Southeast Conference. Maybe Texas A&M was a questionable example of a bad geographic fit, but based on our difference of opinion, it is at least arguable. Nebraska and Penn State are not.
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Re: As I said before, we can agree to disagree
Aug 13, 2020, 2:44 PM
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Shrug
If you asked 1000 coots, they would say "prison" - more specifically, the Broad River Correctional Institution.
Again, if you asked 1000 texas which "region of the US" they would likely say the "south" which is really just the Southeast.
A&M isn't unreasonable. A&M is closer to LSU than Texas Tech. Shoot, being in the middle of the triangle, they might be the closest texas school to the SEC core (ie not on the 35 corridor). Plus, the SEC likes to adopt the lesser partner in many rivalries. See South Carolina. They don't want to upset the apple cart. For me, it was Mizzou being the odd one until I say the religious map. Makes more sense being in the SEC than say the B10
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Re: As I said before, we can agree to disagree
Aug 13, 2020, 2:55 PM
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From your reference
History Of The South-Central Region
... The region's states of Alabama, Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Louisiana ...
Wait, Tennessee, Alabama? I thought this was the "Southeast"
Texas was one of the initial "first wave" states to succeed after Lincoln's election. Aka pre sumter
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Want some crackers to go with those two red herrings?
Aug 13, 2020, 3:06 PM
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1) The order of secession has zero to do with where Texas is physically located
2) "Well, Texas may not be Southeast, but then neither is Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, or Alabama." What kind of argument is that? Conceding my point?
Look, this is so far off the original point of my post. I am not going to argue with you any further. Believe that Texas is in the Southeast if you like; it won't affect me one bit. But please just drop it. I have always enjoyed your posts. Let's be Clemson fans and focus on the things we agree on, and leave the ones that we will never agree on alone. How's that?
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Re: Want some crackers to go with those two red herrings?
Aug 13, 2020, 3:16 PM
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1. It does culturally. As those states are considered the "deep south" which is the "heart" of the SEC
#2 "It is South Central" is just a label. I have not heard that "Tennessee" being south central. I am agreeing that if it is important to label texas as south central, then their clustering with Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Alabama makes sense form a Southeaster Conference perspective
When in doubt, look at the 98 meridian.
Where is Texas's population located
This is more fun than those political posts, uggg and no one else is posting about football... or at least basketball. At this time, I am willing to talk baseball. Random beer conversation.
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They're talking like they own the conference. If they do
Aug 13, 2020, 12:58 PM
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trade Missouri, they wouldn't be able to beat either one, Nebraska or Penn St.
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Looks like 2 more bonafide losses for the coots to me.***
Aug 13, 2020, 4:52 PM
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