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Is Frank Martin a better recruiter than Brownell in his 1st


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 9:54 AM
 

year? He's signed Sindarius Thornwell, the No. 1 rated player in the state, a 4 star recruit, while our staff, in it's 3rd year, couldn't. They look good for Demetrius Henry, another 4 star recruit that we recruited hard, after this weekend. Given that we only have 2 non-wing players on our roster, you would think he would be very interested in us, but we didn't even make his final three. Reggie Theus, Jr. a 6-6 guard visited this weekend.

Plus, Martin is willing to run people off and replace them with better players.

The early results suggest he is.

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Frank will have his team in tourney in yr 3***

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 9:58 AM
 



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Re: Frank will have his team in tourney in yr 3***

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:02 AM
 

And Probabiy on probation also

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Is Kansas St on probation or being investigated?***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:03 AM
 



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Re: Is Kansas St on probation or being investigated?***

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:06 AM
 

That is just something a poster puts if he feels insecure about another program


I hadn't heard they were in any sort of trouble


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:07 AM
 

but I don't read everything

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Frank Martin got into big trouble and was suspended

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:28 AM
 

by Florida HS authorities for rules violation before ever taking a collegiate position and Martin's association with some AAU coaches with shady reputations had been documented BEFORE he took a job on Bob Huggins staff at KState---and Huggins (or Thuggins if you prefer) has one of the worst reputations of NCAA rules violations of any active coach---to be honest, considering all the trouble Huggins former employers have gotten into over the years, I'm amazed theres not a "show cause" sanction hanging over his head.

All this info is available over the internet

btw--if you two want to blow wind up a usuck coach's skirt, there are coot boards on which to do so.


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does the NCAA have jurisdiction to put a show cause on a


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:31 AM
 

high school coach?

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no one is blowing wind up anyone's skirt...I was merely


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:33 AM
 

asking a question...this is what we call a DISCUSSION board.

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In addition to the information I provided


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:37 AM
 

the answer to your other question is undoubtedly available online as well...

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I have no interest in reading about Frank Martin...I don't


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:38 AM
 

care..I was just asking a question

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Martin is cheating to get Thornwell and maybe Henry and

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:44 AM
 

Theus?

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Of course, and here is how you can know for sure:

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 12:55 PM
 

No coach can attract good players to a school with no relevant basketball tradition, especially in the state of South Carolina. If by some chance it is possible, it would take years and years of building relationships. But seriously, you're better off just accepting that you'll never be better than mediocre, but rather just hope to be decent with the crumbs that fall off of the table.

All of that is just a fact.

Signed,
Short-sighted, misinformed T-netters who have given up.

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
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Well documented long before scar gig,


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:38 AM
 

That frank has been on the edge of ethic and moral decency in the recruiting circles his entire career.

That said, sadly, that's how some guys win (quickly) in hoops and how it is done.

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There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.


Although I have no intention of going to look for it...

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:48 AM
 

I read online (fwiw) that Martin had gotten his position with Huggins at KState BECAUSE of his relationship with the AAU coach of a HS star from NJ who eventually signed with KState and then left the Wildcats program after Huggins took another HC position.

The AD at KState apparently had some big issues with Martin taking over as HC at KState after Huggins left and pretty much gave Martin the "bum's rush" out the door

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Ya couldn't find anything about that anywhere. Speculation.***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 4:15 PM
 




Clap, clap, clap!!!!!***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:33 PM
 



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Martin is Huggins protoge. Enough said. jerk like SOS***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 3:45 PM
 



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Remember he was only at KSU a short period….


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 6:31 PM
 

that's why he didn't get in trouble. If he is around long enough at SCU, Martin will get into trouble. He is an arrogant cheater.

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When Martin was at KSU, in his final year, KSU self reported


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 6:29 PM
 

some NCAA violations and the AD suspended a player for the rest of the season when it was found out he had broke NCAA rules. The NCAA was about to come and KSU was going to be fully cooperative, that's why Martin bolted to SCU.

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Re: When Martin was at KSU, in his final year, KSU self reported


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:56 PM
 

Lmao! You guys are funny.


Re: When Martin was at KSU, in his final year, KSU self reported


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 11:51 PM
 

you've always been there for a laff...please keep it up


Our fans' patience with a coach seems to be determined by

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:19 AM
 

how he does versus South Carolina, regardless of how good the SC team is we are being compared to. So, if Martin turns SC around quickly, that will pressure our fans and administration to demand more from our program.

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that's true...it worked in football***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:24 AM
 



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We beat SCU in basketball***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 6:35 PM
 



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And on probation in year 4***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 3:38 PM
 



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Re: Is Frank Martin a better recruiter than Brownell in his 1st

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:02 AM
 

Martin can actually recruit. Brownell is probably one of the top 10 worst recruiters in the country. I think Brownell is s better coach and also a lot less dooshey than Martin.....but at the end of the day Martin is getting the players he needs and Brownell is not


Re: Is Frank Martin a better recruiter than Brownell in his 1st


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:00 PM
 

"top 10 worst recruiters in the country"

Do you have anything to back up the complete BS you are spewing?

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Some posters think if they say it, somebody will believe it.


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:38 PM
 

Wishful thinking.

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Re: Is Frank Martin a better recruiter than Brownell in his 1st

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:09 PM
 

leave it up to good old palmetto to trash yet another clemson program. quite a guy you must be to be around.

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Re: Is Frank Martin a better recruiter than Brownell in his 1st

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 4:42 PM
 

De,

You are quite possibly the biggest moron on this board. In that post I actually put "Brownell is the better coach". Your such a smug dbag. Do everyone a favor and just ignore me. Your like a broken ####### record


More like, Martin can actually cheat….


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 6:35 PM
 

if you don't know this guy's history then you're clueless

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Yes not even close!!!!

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:37 AM
 

He can get players its that simple and basketball is all about players you either have them or you don't. Even bad coaches can win with good players look at Roy Williams.


Can we please find one stud that wants the ball in his hands

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 10:38 AM
 

and can score. The mid majors have ballers on their team! Why can't we. We got a bunch of dudes that can't finish at the rim, minus KJ


Excellent, legitimate question, and the answer may be yes.


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:05 PM
 

As far as I'm concerned, Brownell's career at Clemson rests squarely on the shoulders of Blossomgame and Rooks. He is a very good coach, but his future at Clemson was always going to be determined by how well he could recruit. His first 3 years were not good enough; Blossomgame and Rooks may save him.

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he makes a living in the "gray" area of recruiting.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:10 PM
 

i am not gonna sit here and say he cheats, but he sure as he** bends the rules! he was in trouble in his hs coaching days, before he moved up to the ncaa level, and that's pretty bad. once you cross the line, there is no going back.

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The answer is a MAJOR YES.***

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:56 PM
 




Frank Martin is a pathological cheater….


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 6:25 PM
 

he was a cheater as a coach in high school, he was a cheater as an assistant under pathological cheater Bob Huggins, and he was cheater as head coach at KSU.

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Lets hear it for our fan favorite Danny Ford!!


Posted: Mar 25, 2013 8:20 PM
 

memories.....


Martin running people off didn't workout at KSU….


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 6:27 PM
 

KSU started to fall off the longer he was their. Four players were about to leave the team before he bolted for SCU, once he bolted they stayed and KSU got better with their new coach. Also, KSU's AD was ready to get rid of him.

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Source for these 4 players?***


Posted: Mar 24, 2013 11:48 PM
 




Frank Martin is just a better recruiter, period

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Posted: Mar 24, 2013 9:57 PM
 

That's what he was always good at. Very flashy guy who is good at getting attention, but not the best X's and O's coach. Unfortunately, I think that may be a better recipe for a head coach than a guy who is technically strong.

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They've gotten most of the top in-state players for a few


Posted: Mar 25, 2013 9:10 PM
 

years now. I just don't understand why.

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