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Heisman Winner [137905]
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Laying the groundwork for the coup
Oct 27, 2020, 8:30 AM
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on the same day the Senate confirmed the woman who helped W. win in Florida (along with Kavanaugh and Roberts).
I'm sure it's just coincidence though.
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Re: Laying the groundwork for the coup
Oct 27, 2020, 8:33 AM
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All-In [26503]
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Always had ballots counted by Election Day
Oct 27, 2020, 8:35 AM
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Why should this time be any different?
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Heisman Winner [137905]
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Are you really asking what's different about this election?***
Oct 27, 2020, 8:41 AM
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Besides chronic TDS ... nothing***
Oct 27, 2020, 8:44 AM
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Heisman Winner [137905]
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I don't think you're actually this stupid, so we'll just
Oct 27, 2020, 8:45 AM
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quit right here and you can stop pretending.
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Lot o points [155888]
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Can I add some terms to that, for completeness's sake?
Oct 27, 2020, 10:53 AM
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-Libtard
-"The Rump"
-Orange Man
-Joementia
-Trumpie
-Fascist
Thank you, I feel better.
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All-In [42151]
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Re: Can I add some terms to that, for completeness's sake?
Oct 27, 2020, 10:56 AM
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Nope, Trumpie and Fascist remain. A. Trump is a fascist. B. Anyone who worships him needs a very derogatory word, and Trumpie bugs them the most.
Thanks for playing, though.
I agree, the Rump thing is kinda silly.
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Lot o points [155888]
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I'm trying to help you with self-awareness here.
Oct 27, 2020, 11:02 AM
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Yes, the fascist one was a joke.
Trumpie though, does not make anyone upset and is not a cutting edge burn. It makes the user look like they were the kid on a leash at the mall back in the day.
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Re: I'm trying to help you with self-awareness here.
Oct 27, 2020, 11:02 AM
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Then I'll gladly keep hollering it while also yelling at Mom to let me go into the Toys R Us.
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Lot o points [155888]
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Dirt ###### is far better.***
Oct 27, 2020, 11:03 AM
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Re: Always had ballots counted by Election Day
Oct 27, 2020, 2:04 PM
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Clem,
In many states they don't count the absentee ballots until after the polls are closed. In many states, it is more time consuming to count the individual absentee ballots than to read the vote tallies on the voting machines.
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The President should be the biggest cheerleader
Oct 27, 2020, 8:44 AM
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for our election process and its integrity. If there are issues, they should be swiftly addressed, not whined about.
And we will not have a final total on Nov. 3rd. We never do, and we won't this year. That's just a silly statement.
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You are calling T3 dumb when the
Oct 27, 2020, 8:48 AM
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assertion of a coup is absolutely ludicrous. But you just keep doing you with the conspiracy theories.
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Re: You are calling T3 dumb when the
Oct 27, 2020, 8:48 AM
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Not T3 Clemchem. They run together.
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Heisman Winner [137905]
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So, you really don't see and understand why the Trump
Oct 27, 2020, 8:51 AM
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team is so desperate to invalidate mail-in ballots, have them all counted by Nov. 3, etc.? There's really not any conspiracy here. If he's successful, it will eliminate potentially millions of Democrat votes. Are you arguing that those votes shouldn't count? If they should, and he successfully invalidates them with the help of Justices he installed...not a coup?
Brother, this is all happening right out in the open. It's not a conspiracy.
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Successful at what? Votes will not all be counted on Nov. 3
Oct 27, 2020, 8:56 AM
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And there's nothing the President can do about it. It's just Twitter whining.
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Heisman Winner [137905]
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Right, but...this is the drumbeat. President doesn't
Oct 27, 2020, 9:00 AM
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believe any vote should be counted after November 3rd? Then none of his followers believe it, either. Civil discord sown. I'm fairly certain Trump would be fine with the whole country going to civil war so that he could declare a national emergency and retain power indefinitely.
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Re: Right, but...this is the drumbeat. President doesn't
Oct 27, 2020, 9:03 AM
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Re: I don't think there will be anything more than
Oct 27, 2020, 2:07 PM
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Prodigal,
I hope that you are right, but there is an awful lot at stake here. And i wouldn't put anything past Trump -
or some of his followers
or the Reupugs
or the Supreme Court
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Re: Successful at what? Votes will not all be counted on Nov. 3
Oct 27, 2020, 9:22 AM
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The Supreme Court has already gotten involved in multiple disputes over which ballots should be counted and how deadlines are handled.
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Heisman Winner [119695]
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Re: So many mail in ballots are thrown out is b/c
Oct 27, 2020, 2:11 PM
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bengaline,
No. You might want to actually read the article.
The California secretary of state’s election data obtained by the AP showed 102,428 mail-in ballots were disqualified in the state’s 58 counties, about 1.5% of the nearly 7 million mail-in ballots returned. That percentage is the highest in a primary since 2014, and the overall number is the highest in a statewide election since 2010.
Two years ago, the national average of rejected mail ballots in the general election was about 1.4% and in the 2016 presidential election year it was 1%, according to a U.S. Election Assistance Commission study.
The most common problem, by far, in California was missing the deadline for the ballot to be mailed and arrive. To count in the election, ballots must be postmarked on or before Election Day and received within three days afterward. Statewide, 70,330 ballots missed those marks.
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Lot o points [155888]
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Legit question for you.
Oct 27, 2020, 9:11 AM
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Do you believe and/or is there definitive data showing a higher percent of mail in voters will be Democrats?
If so, why is that? I’ve always heard that the GOP is the party of old people....aren’t they the most likely to request a mail-in ballot?
Long story short, if everything is on the up and up, shouldn’t this be an “oh no, don’t throw me in the briar patch!” Moment for Dems?
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If you really want me to go dig for numbers, I suppose I
Oct 27, 2020, 9:16 AM
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can, but yes, there is a very significant number of people who requested absentee ballots who normally wouldn't due to coronavirus. Not shocking, right? Now, draw a conclusion along political lines about which party or persuasion believes coronavirus is a dangerous thing that should be avoided, and which one doesn't? That's what this entire discussion has been about, so I'm pretty certain you're just playing dumb, but that's fine.
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What keeps you from getting your
Oct 27, 2020, 9:20 AM
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ballot in on time? Personal responsibility does play a role, right?
If you are afraid that the mail carrier won’t get it there in time, drop it off at the Clerks office.
When do we start holding ourselves accountable for anything?
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Since when have we had to hold the Post Office accountable?
Oct 27, 2020, 9:27 AM
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That's a very recent phenomena...
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Lot o points [155888]
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Sheesh, is that any way to talk to your alter ego?
Oct 27, 2020, 9:22 AM
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I don’t have to “play” dumb, buster, it comes naturally.
An no I’m not one of those “I NEEEEED A LINK SHOWING TRIPLE BLIND VALIDATED NUMBERS” kinda guy.
I’m just saying, there’s a lot to suggest to me, just thinking off the cuff, that this could easily hurt Trump as much as help him. I hear you on the Covid thing, but on the flip side, Dems are always about “turning out the Vote” and making it easier to vote because apparently there are major life challenges for their base to vote every couple years.
I don’t know about SC, but in TN the absentee ballot was a royal PITA......if I was the type of dem voter who would only vote if no ID was required and lines were less than 10 minutes and a community organizer van picked me up and took me home, I’m sure not going through the ballot application process.
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That's great for past elections, but we've all acknowledged
Oct 27, 2020, 10:47 AM
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that this year is quite different.....The GOP has an older voting base, and may be far more likely to request an absentee ballot this year when they prided themselves on voting in person in year's past.
I dunno, I could be way off....just thinking out loud. I'm just not convinced that Trump's not adding another self-inflicted wound by being so wound up about absentee ballots when they could tip his way.
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Thank you. Legit question part 2
Oct 27, 2020, 2:16 PM
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Why do you think that is? I honestly don't know....I know Trump's not a fan but I still believe the lion's share of GOP voters don't hang on every word he says, so I discount that as a reason for mail avoidance.
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Re: Thank you. Legit question part 2
Oct 28, 2020, 12:09 AM
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Obed,
Is it not possible that Dems, as a group, take the Covid virus and its safety precautions more seriously than do reps, as a group. Therefore they are more motivated to vote early and by mail ?
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Prediction.
Oct 27, 2020, 9:15 AM
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After Nov. 3, you'll be one of the people on here declaring fraud and wanting the election results overturned.
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I second that prediction.
Oct 27, 2020, 9:56 AM
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Please mark these posts.
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Re: Laying the groundwork for the coup
Oct 27, 2020, 8:50 AM
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19B is a russian collusion hoaxer that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
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Will I have to wait 3 yrs for the imminent indictments?
Oct 22, 2024, 11:49 AM
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Real talk,
Now that the Russian collusion thing has been considered legit (last election) I’ve heard Biden use it a couple of the times I’ve been paying attention. I don’t think it’s ONLY him, but in defense of his son he’s used the term Russian disinformation campaign
I fear that the long term damage has been done by mother Russia and any campaign actions a party doesn’t like will default to the Russians. When that gets old it will be China and whomever else
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Re: Will I have to wait 3 yrs for the imminent indictments?
Oct 27, 2020, 9:03 AM
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Democrats have always done this.
They tried to smear John McCain as a Russian asset. They tried to smear trump with it.
Basically any time a Democrat brings up Russia you should know they are just covering for their own wrongdoings.
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Re: Will I have to wait 3 yrs for the imminent indictments?
Oct 27, 2020, 2:15 PM
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I gues that includes the entire intelligence community as well.
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Re: Laying the groundwork for the coup
Oct 27, 2020, 9:29 AM
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NYT Daily podcase episode this morning was outstanding. They reviewed the 2000 election the exact sequence of steps that led to the Supreme Court's 5-4 vote that Gore's lawyers could not compel the Broward county recount. I was too young at the time to remember many of the details stuff. They talked about the sequence of suits, counties selected for recounts, pregnant chads, the "Brooks Brothers Riot," and Roger Stone's involvement.
The context of remembering the 2000 election were the lessons learned by both sides. For the Democrats, it was suggested that Gore conceding on election night initially set their subsequent challenge to be viewed as "Sore-Loserman." Republicans learned the power of allegations of voter fraud, which have persisted to this day, as an effective means of disenfranchising legitimate votes. They also learned the power of installing judges.
The Trump administration has filed suits in at least 7 states to challenge the legitimacy of mail-in votes or when and how they can be counted. The rhetoric about mail in ballot fraud has been out there for months. Ultimately, this is going to come down to Pennsylvania. If Biden does not win Florida or Arizona, it looks like the election will come down to one state that will count ballots received up to three days after election day. Legal decisions will ultimately go to the SC, where the 6-3 majority will rule in Trump's favor to throw out votes.
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No, see, it's just a conspiracy.***
Oct 27, 2020, 9:49 AM
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Re: Laying the groundwork for the coup
Oct 27, 2020, 2:19 PM
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I avidly followed the Gore/Bush debacle and I would encourage anyone to review the NYT podcast. Everything that you say is imminently possible in the coming weeks.
Here's hoping that Biden wins by a large enough margin to make such machinations moot.
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Trump will change that tune real fast if the weather doesn't
Oct 27, 2020, 9:44 AM
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cooperate on election day in key swing states, considering how he's pushed his base to wait to vote. Look for national emergencies to be declared and whining about extending the actual election date back to accommodate.
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Re: Trump will change that tune real fast if the weather doesn't
Oct 27, 2020, 2:20 PM
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I had not thought of that. Perhaps I should be praying for bad weather in the swing states.
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I don't agree that the ACB has anything to do with this...
Oct 27, 2020, 10:10 AM
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but demanding a final result on Nov 3 is definitely setting the stage for riling up the people that blindly follow what he says.
We REALLY need Biden to win FL and PA and have them called for him on Tuesday so we can put this election to bed early.
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Re: I don't agree that the ACB has anything to do with this...
Oct 27, 2020, 2:21 PM
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Flo,
That would be excellent, but I cannot see it happening.
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