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LSU Troll lied
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LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 1:23 PM

A certain LSU troll that keeps coming on here to tell us everything that is great about LSU lied to us in an earlier thread... He said: "but every year under O LSU has overperfromed their initial ranking."

Here are the numbers from the AP poll site for the years 2019 to 2015 (coach "O" tenure):

2019 preseason #1, Final #1 Did not "overperform" that year!!!!
2018, 11 < 6
2017, 16 > 18 Did not "overperform" that year!!!!
2016, 19 < 13
2015, 22 < 16

Just as a reference, here are the numbers for Clemson in the same years:

2019, 3 < 2
2018, 2 < 1
2017, 1 > 4 *
2016, 3 < 1
2015, 1 > 2 *

We also did not beat our preseason poll two of those same years, but please note the much lower expectations for LSU over that time period! And also the fact that Clemson finished in the top four all of those years, while LSU was top four only one of those years.

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Jan 25, 2020, 1:28 PM

That guys a piece of work... I wonder if that isn't a coatail coot.

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When did they start #1 in 2019?


Jan 25, 2020, 1:34 PM

I musta been in a coma when that happened.

~JKB

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 1:34 PM

Weren’t we preseason #1 last year?

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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


Your numbers are wrong. Clemson was not preseason


Jan 25, 2020, 1:37 PM

1 in 2015 or 2017.

Clemson has finished higher in every poll under Dabo until this year. We were preseason #1 and finished at #2.

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 1:38 PM

I used this as my source:

http://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=2019

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 1:42 PM

Press the “Go” button with “Preseason” selected and you’ll see.

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 1:40 PM

Where are you getting your numbers from? We were preason #1 in 2019, #5 or 6 in 2017, #2 in 2016, and #12 in 2015.

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

OK, so I did not realize that the years were not keeping the same criteria as I went back...here are the correct numbers, which shows that the troll lied worse than I thought!

LSU

2019, 6 < 1
2018, 25 < 6
2017 13 > 18*
2016, 5 > 13*
2015, 14 > 16*

So, 3 out of 5 years under "O", LSU has under performed!!!!

Clemson

2019, 1 > 2*
2018, 2 < 1
2017, 5 < 4
2016, 2 < 1
2015, 12 < 2

Sorry for the confusion! And thanks for the correction!

Message was edited by: JPRICH Top Paw®


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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 2:07 PM

Thanks as always for posting the numbers and keeping up with our former tigers as well.

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 3:05 PM [ in reply to Re: LSU Troll lied ]


OK, so I did not realize that the years were not keeping the same criteria as I went back...here are the correct numbers, which shows that the troll lied worse than I thought!

LSU

2019, 6 < 1
2018, 25 < 6
2017 13 > 18*
2016, 5 > 13*
2015, 14 > 16*

So, 3 out of 5 years under "O", LSU has under performed!!!!

Clemson

2019, 1 > 2*
2018, 2 < 1
2017, 5 < 4
2016, 2 < 1
2015, 12 < 2

Sorry for the confusion! And thanks for the correction!

Message was edited by: JPRICH Top Paw®




O was interm HC to pick up the pieces, then has been HC for 3 seasons.

The first season he won more than expected per LV, the next 2 he over performed the initial ranking.

WHEN YOU CALL SOMEBODY OUT YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

Sorry, You said: "but every year under O LSU has overperfromed their initial ranking."

You did not say as head coach, which he finished the year as head coach during the 2016 year. He came as an assistant in January 2015...so all of the 2015 year and ever since, LSU has been "under" "O".

You again lied when you said: "The first season he won more than expected per LV, the next 2 he over performed the initial ranking." As he was preseason number 13 going into his first full year, and finished number 18. Liar! So we really can't believe anything you say.

Yes, as I looked back initially, I did not realize I had to reset the parameters each time, which led to an unintentional misrepresentation. But I admitted my mistake and put out the correct numbers...Your response? Attack me for my facts, even when I have corrected them before the attack, then lie while the numbers are right in front of you and easy for everyone else to see!!! Are you a real LSU fan, or a coot in disguise? Because you act like a coot!

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Jan 26, 2020, 5:11 PM


Sorry, You said: "but every year under O LSU has overperfromed their initial ranking."

You did not say as head coach, which he finished the year as head coach during the 2016 year. He came as an assistant in January 2015...so all of the 2015 year and ever since, LSU has been "under" "O".

You again lied when you said: "The first season he won more than expected per LV, the next 2 he over performed the initial ranking." As he was preseason number 13 going into his first full year, and finished number 18. Liar! So we really can't believe anything you say.

Yes, as I looked back initially, I did not realize I had to reset the parameters each time, which led to an unintentional misrepresentation. But I admitted my mistake and put out the correct numbers...Your response? Attack me for my facts, even when I have corrected them before the attack, then lie while the numbers are right in front of you and easy for everyone else to see!!! Are you a real LSU fan, or a coot in disguise? Because you act like a coot!




What a sorry explanation/spin.

Hopefully you are not a CU grad, I expect more than that childish blabber from someone who actually graduated from a good school.

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I'm wondering why you chose to attack him instead of


Jan 26, 2020, 6:16 PM

addressing the facts? Seems like a classic case of "truth hurts" , subsequent denial, then the baseless attack on the messenger.

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Jan 27, 2020, 12:00 AM


addressing the facts? Seems like a classic case of "truth hurts" , subsequent denial, then the baseless attack on the messenger.




No need to add to the facts, they are evident. His very poor spin is there for all to see.

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Oh boy, we win the battle of the stats.


Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

When is the trophy award?

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Re: LSU Troll lied


Jan 27, 2020, 12:26 AM

I quit reading when you started off getting 2019 wrong.

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