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You’re gonna hate this post, but that’s ok with me

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Posted: May 12, 2018 9:47 AM
 

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/arrests-of-clemson-football-players-leave-their-loved-ones-fans/article_5d2ef0b6-4fbb-11e8-a5af-779c7725753c.html

This article is eerie in its description of the facts. I advise you to read it before flaming me. C.J. Fuller owns a white Mercedes? And they knew another unnamed football player with stacks of cash? No known rationale?

I’m not going to speculate, and maybe I listen to too many podcasts, but their seems to be a bigger story here. We’ve got a ton of people saying the same thing (shocked) or saying nothing at all. (I personally don’t trust the local Clemson media to get the story right. They make more money blowing smoke and telling fans what they want to hear.)

Deep in my Clemson loving heart I hope to God this is a simple case of three men in an act of desperation. However, I’m mentally preparing for something worse. I suggest you at least think about the possibility before you thumb this post down.


Sorry, but

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Posted: May 12, 2018 9:51 AM
 

You blew any credibility with "I'm not going to speculate, but......". Then you speculated.


Re: Sorry, but

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Posted: May 12, 2018 11:51 AM
 

Non-Speculation disclaimers are so hard to come by nowadays . He just went ahead and did it at risk to his journalistic integrity.

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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:21 PM
 

Coot troll


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Posted: May 13, 2018 10:44 AM
 

Journalistic integrity is the new definition of oxymoron


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Posted: May 13, 2018 10:13 AM
 

If they are willing to commit the crime I would guess the stacks of money are from drugs or possibly other robberies they got away with. Doesn't indicate Clemson paid them in any way. I'm calling coot on this one.

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Posted: May 14, 2018 12:26 PM
 

She lost me with low pulse.


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Posted: May 12, 2018 9:53 AM
 

????


I don't hate the post, I hate it for these young men.

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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:02 AM
 

Because I can't imagine they aren't going to jail for a long, long time.

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Doesn't say the year of the car


Posted: May 12, 2018 10:07 AM
 

You can buy a used Mercedes for much less than one year's tuition, which he wasn't paying.


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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:08 AM
 



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Re: You’re gonna hate this post, but that’s ok with me

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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:12 AM
 

Read it but gave you a td anyway. Take that garbage to fgf

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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:20 AM
 

I'm not jumping on the "Clemson does nothing to skirt the rules why everyone else is cheating" bandwagon, but these facts aren't exactly hard to explain away.

"C.J. Fuller owns a white Mercedes?"
Okay? What year is it? How many miles are on it? Like any luxury car, Mercedes vehicles depreciate very quickly. You can go on truecar.com right now and find several 2011/2012 models for less than $10K. If we're talking about him driving a 2016, sure there's something fishy there. If we're talking about him driving a 2002 that could be a car that was bought for less than $5K. At that point its more fishy if he's driving a 2012 civic.

"And they knew another unnamed football player with stacks of cash? No known rationale?"
The victim is supposedly a walk-on OL. There are several places any reasonable person would go before thinking he was being paid to play for Clemson.

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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:46 PM
 

The value of a used Mercedes drops faster than a lead ballon once the warranty runs out. Ever paid to have one of those things worked on?


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Posted: May 13, 2018 10:50 PM
 

German cars synonymous with JUNK !


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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:25 AM
 



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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:30 AM
 

To think otherwise is foolish. I'm just thankful everyday that I'm not a gamecoot.

Dabo does his best to get the best. He's not perfect. None of us are.

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Posted: May 12, 2018 10:34 AM
 

Every time I think about this I want to throw up. Sometimes young people make very poor decisions.

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Posted: May 12, 2018 11:07 AM
 

You can get a newer Mercedes for about 10 grand...


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Posted: May 12, 2018 11:11 AM
 

And how many miles does she have on her?

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Posted: May 12, 2018 11:10 AM
 

Choices have consequences. Part of the problem with the culture today is that we are constantly bombarded with all the BS of marketing, and advertising and what is normal for society. Unless you have a standard by which you reference as to what is truth, you are at risk to make bad decisions. Our country has turned away from the truth, and we are seeing the results these days. We have stood by and let government dictate to us what the truth is. We have let politicians sell out our country for money, and to think that at one time the USA was the greatest country on the face of this earth because our nation walked with the Creator of the Universe. I feel for the boy's bad choices, but they can over come it, but it will not be by trusting in men. Same thing with our country, if this nation doesn't wake up then it will suffer judgment. I our congress is a group of self absorbed phonies who are only looking to enrich themselves. Our nation doesn't have the stones to make them honor their commitment to serve the public. They have us serving them just like the Brits did back in the 18th century.


You've inspired me.....

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Posted: May 12, 2018 11:20 AM
 

I'm leaving for Charleston to throw my tea in the harbor.

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Re: You've inspired me.....

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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:07 PM
 

Sweet tea or unsweet? It matters.


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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:46 PM
 



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Posted: May 12, 2018 1:07 PM
 

Yankee tea. Yuck.

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I believe it's boxed tea.....


Posted: May 12, 2018 1:06 PM
 

You have to brew it and add sugar. Don't y'all know any history?

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Posted: May 14, 2018 10:23 AM
 

Politics and Religion do not mix. No where in the New Testament do we find our heroes playing politics. The only mention of anything slightly political was 'Render unto Caesar that which..."

On judgement day every man will give accord. I doubt God Almighty will excuse anyone because of the government which ruled over them. There will be no excuses for any of us. That includes you and me. Only The Blood of His Son will save us from the wrath to come.

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Nothing new in that story. HUH?

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Posted: May 12, 2018 11:24 AM
 

why post it again?

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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:23 PM
 

You are a TROLL. Fuller owns a white Mercedes: his dad is an insurance agent and you can get a used Mercedes for $15,000. It didn’t say how new it was. Also for the large amounts of cash: for All we know the girl is a drug dealer and has a bunch of cash. There could literally be 100 reasons other than the University is involved.

Good bye COOT.


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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:36 PM
 



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Posted: May 12, 2018 7:59 PM
 




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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:42 PM
 

So fuller had it so good with illegal benefits that he was going to transfer somewhere else?
And Johnson and fuller were so taken care of that they had to commit robbery?


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Posted: May 12, 2018 1:05 PM
 

I’m mentally prepared to take what ever they have gotten themselves into.If they are drug dealers sent them to jail, they knew better.They had more opportunity than lots of kids both black and white and they blew it


So Fuller had it so good with impermissible benefits that he

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Posted: May 12, 2018 1:46 PM
 

decided to transfer? And He and Johnson were both so "well taken care of" that they had to stoop to robbery? And people give out cash to woo a walk-on to come and play? Really?


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Posted: May 12, 2018 7:50 PM
 



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Posted: May 13, 2018 10:48 AM
 

It looks like you would have stuck around to discuss your topic instead of trying to troll and then disappear.


false assumptions tied to an event & spread it as truth...


Posted: May 13, 2018 5:17 PM
 

to anyone who'll listen. probably enjoy rejoicing in other's misfortunes. virtuous


Lots of questions but will wait until facts come out


Posted: May 13, 2018 10:32 PM
 

Dsbo said it right ...

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I appreciate facts cnn / msnbc


Posted: May 13, 2018 10:57 PM
 

Thank you but no thank you

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I appreciate facts cnn / msnbc


Posted: May 13, 2018 10:57 PM
 

Thank you but no thank you

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Re: You’re gonna hate this post, but that’s ok with me

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Posted: May 14, 2018 3:58 AM
 

Why even bring it back up?? It got plenty of media attention. Newspapers are just trying to sale crap and maybe target Clemson because of what we have accomplished. You don’t always have to cheat to win.

IMO this article is an attempt to destroy that Family atmosphere at Clemson. Look at the Clemson program since TB and Dabo took over and you will find very little negative news like this where at SC it became an almost yearly problem.

Some people will do anything to bring down a successful program. News media other coaches, AD’s etc...

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Posted: May 14, 2018 6:21 AM
 

But fails so miserably easy....


The story is problematic.


Posted: May 14, 2018 7:00 AM
 

Several guys who were part of the Clemson family screwed up. If there is any widespread rot coming out of this mess, it'll hurt the program. We'd all hate that. The case will come to trial and some facts will come to light. As this happens the media, the authorities and people who want to get any and all rot brought to like will take a look at it.

Time will tell what the whole story is. Like the frat guy who died under the Seneca River bridge, some will be disappointed if the story really is simple straight forward and only involves screwing up. Usually, the simplest story is the real story. That's what I expect in the Fuller Johnson case.

Go Tigers!!

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I don't know


Posted: May 14, 2018 10:46 AM
 

I don't care if a college student has a gun, but combine it with jars of cash, hidden around the apartment, one can only believe that some type of drug activity was going on. Most likely a small time weed dealer. Evidently, the girl friend didn't know of the cash, or was dumb to the fact that she probably implicated her boy friend in some type of illegal activities. Most criminals can rob other criminals and no one speaks. Sounds like she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


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Posted: May 14, 2018 10:00 AM
 

Sad for all involved more especially the parents and coaches who mentored these young men. I'd like to call this indiscretions of youth but robbery and armed at that screams the thug life which is glorify in our culture through the movie and music industries. Unfortunately these young men will now have a debt to repay, most certainly in the form of jail time. Hopefully they will rise above this mistake in judgement and become productive members of society.


And...you speculated. I prefer to see how this plays


Posted: May 14, 2018 10:12 AM
 

out in court.

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Posted: May 14, 2018 11:57 AM
 

If you've been under Dabo Swinney's program/direction/mentoring for four years, then I can't imagine you haven't been provided the tools to not only be successful, but be armed with the knowledge to make good ethical decisions and know the consequences of bad ones.

If those guys made a decision to commit armed robbery, then they knew exactly what they were doing and the results that would come with it. To me, it makes zero sense with what they had already accomplished and what they had going for them.


This story makes zero sense. Why would they plan to rob


Posted: May 14, 2018 12:41 PM
 

someone who would definitely recognize them? I guess the girlfriend being there caught them by surprise...but if they didn't expect someone there - why bring a gun?

I wonder why the victim is unnamed...?

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