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JUST WATCHED OKLAHOMA'S LAST 2 GAMES...

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 2:53 PM
 

They won, but I am not impressed. I try to be reasonable and objective, but...

WHEN OKLAHOMA HAS THE BALL
Yes, Mayfield scrambles pretty well, you have to when your tackles can't block. I still expect 3 to 5 QB sacks by Clemson as well as a couple of busted plays/runs by Mayfield.

Their center and guards block well, their tackles, not so much. I really expect us to abuse their tackles during the game, 5 to 8 tackles for loss, plus the sacks. Their best running plays are up the middle or busting off the left corner after trying to go through the middle or a called sweep around the left side.

Their corners and safeties are easily beat. Both TCU and Oklahoma State had wide open receivers on the safeties, but they had to wait on the passes from the backup quarterbacks. The corners bite pretty easily on the bubble screens, so I'm sure we'll have something for that if they stop our short passes.

In their last 6 games, Oklahoma's offense has played against defenses that had an average ranking of 97. That's a lot different than playing the #7 defense in the nation, so I expect Clemson's defense to give them the same welcoming they gave them last year on December 31st.

WHEN CLEMSON HAS THE BALL
Running the ball may be more difficult for us than passing, but can be done. I would expect 200+ yards between Gallman and Watson rushing.

I don't think they can stop the pass. I think if we're playing our regular game and our receivers catch the ball when it's thrown to them, Watson should be able to pick them apart easily. Looking for 350 to 400 yards passing. We should be able to beat them long all game unless they put two safeties back. If they do that, Watson will pick them apart on the 5 yo 15 yard passes. You can't cover them all, their all great!

SCORE:
CLEMSON - 45
OKLAHOMA - 17


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 3:52 PM
 

So let me get this straight, Syracuse, NCState, USC and UNC and the best offense in football BC scored 17 points on Clemson and OU's offense all of sudden isn't better than those? In your analysis did you figure out why UNC and NC State scored their TDs in less than 2 minutes on your defense?


Re: JUST WATCHED OKLAHOMA'S LAST 2 GAMES...

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 4:34 PM
 

I think the point is that we have no idea... Oklahoma hasn't played a defense with a pulse. Mayfield is good, but is OU's offense that much better than NCSU or UNC? That's why they play the game....

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:04 PM
 

Williams and Brisset are better passers than Mayfield, and it isnt even close


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:31 PM
 

Could you help point them out on this http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating

Maybe they are with the NFL stats?


Jeeezzzzz, give it a rest....

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:37 PM
 

OMG with the Coots and now the Pooners...

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What is wrong with asking a question....


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:47 PM
 

just trying to understand how he formed his opinion...


A sooner and a coot are arguing. I want my country back.***

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Re: What is wrong with asking a question....

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:00 PM
 

Williams is a bit of a mercurial talent. At his best he might be as good as Mayfield. Better runner. Not as talented of a passer. UNC has a better OL and we got in his head from the first time he dropped back.


Re: What is wrong with asking a question....

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:42 PM
 

Nothing at all. I find your posts and perspective very interesting.

Oklahoma's a great team, there is no question about it. But playing us is going to be a real test.

The defenses you've played average somewhere around 90th and the 3 big conference games you won came against good teams with dynamic quarterback who happened to be out. That's not to say you wouldn't have beat them, but it's fair to say it bumped your overall defensive ranking.

Having said all of that Oklahoma is among the most storied programs in the country and they don't call Stoops "Big Game Bob" for nothing. So, we will see what happens.

It's not going to be a walk, but I'm pretty confident that we'll win it. ;)

Go Tigers!

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Re: What is wrong with asking a question....

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:35 PM
 

No you weren't...he told you how he formed his opinion...by watching the games. If you disagree, instead of being a snarky d-bag, why don't you respond with your arguments and have a debate.

Last time I responded to you, as you were asking for facts, I posted a lot of them and you went away...

You want to bring up UNC...great--that is a game that had all of our attention and we held them to 103 yards in the first half; they had one good drive in the second and we were up 19 with a few minutes left and had dominated...INT and a quick change/short field changed momentum a bit, but we were still up 15 w/ a minute left.

You want to talk about points, but UNC gained 100 yards less than their average per game.

NC St was after a huge win that clinched the division and on the road; they play one great home game a year and that was it...again entered the 4th quarter up 20.

BC scored 10 points in the actual game and the one TD was a 20 yard drive...by including that using purely the score you showed your ignorance. At least the OP actually watched the entire games and formed an opinion...you've looked at the box score and stirred the pot.

SC scored 15 in garbage time including one with 0:01 on the clock...

Cuse...we played our worst game of the year--at least our worse game didn't end up in an embarrassing loss to a terrible team (see Shootout, Red River).

If you want to take solace in the fact that if OU is down by 3 TDs entering the 4th you have a chance to only lose by a TD, you do that...we can add you to our moral losses on the season.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:28 PM
 




Here's an easier way to see Mayfield and Brissett together


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:52 PM
 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/sacks

Our D-Line will be very disruptive in this game. If I'm wrong, we won't win.

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We heard how awesome OU was last year!


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:02 PM
 

And we all no how that turned out! You can argue all day. And you can try to relax your fears by downing the ACC But the truth of the matter is you still have to play us again. We are better then who you faced last year. And we are being disrespected again. All the media in the world won't matter when the whistle blows.
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: We heard how awesome OU was last year!


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:31 PM
 

I really have to laugh at how Clemson has been disrespected all the way to #1. OU sucked last year, they were coming into the Clemson game as 4 loss team having brain farted away a game against a rival at home, living through the disappoint that TK9 was a one hit wonder and the defense, while good individually played like crap as a unit. Agreed Clemson is better offensively this year, I don't think your front 7 is as good defensively as last year, but what you under estimate is how much better OU is from that suckage of a team last year.


Re: We heard how awesome OU was last year!


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:40 PM
 

Lotta wishful thinking, Coot.

So what, you think Clemson will only win by 10 this time is what you're saying?


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:42 PM
 

so,that's interesting...then how was it OU was favored last year then? "suckage", "down", "injured"...sounds like excuses fans made after a complete mud-stomping fest was put on them. Wonder what the reason will be this time if Clemson wins...


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:50 PM
 

I don't set the lines, but if you have any understanding of Vegas it was pretty obvious the knew how to move the money by setting that line. BTW I said OU sucked last year, yes I guess sucking makes it a down year, but I never used injured as an excuse. Teams have play 12 games a year, players are going to get hurt, that is football and should never be used as a reason for losing.


Re: We heard how awesome OU was last year!


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:59 PM
 

Well the rest of us real conferences have a championship game so we've played 13 games.
GO TIGERS!!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:03 PM
 

yes, that's what every OU fan thought and talked about pre-game last year, right?? How sucky OU was...how they'd get dominated??

http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?84800-Russell-Athletic-Bowl-***-Oklahoma-vs-Clemson-***


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:24 PM
 

HA HA HA! looks like my first post went through after all. OU we are disrespected by being asked if we belong! By being underdogs to a team that lost to Texas! We beat everyone that took the field against us! We are #1 because we brought it every week! And played a championship game! And all we hear is how bad a up start , one loss team that we embarrassed last year will beat us! Just like last year! We have been taking everyone's best shot all year and we don't care! Everyone had revenge on their mind and it didn't matter! WE WIN!! ITS THAT SIMPLE!!
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:32 PM
 

You heard of Alabama? Well we beat FSU BY 10 points and if goldson played it would have been 30. That same team beat Florida by 23 at Florida. Bama played that same team at a neutral site and won by 14. They scored 27 on Florida. FSU scored 25. We held FSU to 13. Sweet dreams
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: We heard how awesome OU was last year!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:37 PM
 

Did you actually read that thread ... here are some of the comments

Hopefully Oklahoma doesn't embarrass themselves
Is it wrong to kinda hope Vulnerables shuts out FUJH? If for no other reason than to force Stoops to can doughboy.
I was trying to muster some optimism for this game but I don't think we win. I cant see us scoring much. D holds up for a half then it quits like it did most of the year.
We've been overrated all season, why change now?
Does Clemson's QB have an arm? And I don't mean a QB kinda arm....I mean he's not an amputee. If so, he will break school records against us...
TK wants to get the pick six over with early....

Yes that sounds a very confident fan base going into the game.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:50 PM
 

No , not confidence! We believe! We believe that we have the best QB In the nation. That our team are brothers and would jump on a hand grenade to save the other. And a defense that when they feel disrespected shut teams down like they're playing children.. Not confidence! We're all in!
GO TIGERS!!!!!!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 10:27 PM
 

Watson is good qb but he isn't the best qb in the nation. He doesn't lead in any qb stat but rushing yards. Last time I check a qb was suppose to pass... He's an average thrower. Avg pass efficiency avg td/int ratio avg passing yards.
He's the qb of number one team that is all.
Last time I checked, Football is a team sport and he isn't even the best player on your team.


Re: We heard how awesome OU was last year!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 10:42 PM
 

Johnny Manziel ranked 16th in 2012 in NCAA passer efficiency with a value of 155.3. When Manziel won the 2012 Heisman Trophy as the best college football player, no one cited his passer efficiency to support it. Manziel's value came from more than his ability to throw the ball, which is what passer efficiency attempts to capture. What about the total QBR?

In total QBR, Deshaun Watson is ranked #3, Baker Mayfield is #8.

He was the only quarterback invited as a Heisman finalist in 2015 and is already ranked #1 to win it in 2016.

Your liberal use of the word "average" is comical.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 10:53 PM
 
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One doesn't get labeled as "championship pedigree" repeatedly throughout the year and shine when listed side-by-side next to last year's first quarterback taken in the NFL draft by being "average".

"Average" quarterbacks don't lead a team that loses 10 starters on defense and boasts 40 freshman to the undisputed #1 ranking and top seed in the college football playoffs.

And the crazy thing? This year was supposed to be a rebuild year. If you told me at the beginning of the year, after losing 10 starters on defense, that we would be ranked #7 in total defense, I probably would have laughed, honestly. Calling Watson average is so fn delusional, even on land thieves that would be retarded. But to come here and post something so ridiculous? You won't get any intelligent argument out of anyone saying dumb $hi+ like that.


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 6:48 AM
 

HA HA HA HA!! Just relax. The game will start and you'll see and believe.
GO TIGERS!!!!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:54 PM
 

Yep, also was "OU by 40"...
"I expect by the 3rd quarter us OU fans will be saying, "Well it could be worse...Cole Stoudt could be our QB" ".
"But I fully expect a win tomorrow night, still won't satisfy many around the fanbase but we gonna win this motherf***&"
"Sooners roll! I know it! "
"If Sugar Bowl Knight shows up its gonna be a long day for Vurnerables"
"Trevor about to get on the 2015 heismam radar "

I get several fans were down because of the last game...but I hate to break it to you, not all were...and it didn't look like the team was pre-game:
http://www.tigernet.com/story/football/Shutdown-corner-Alexander-backs-pregame-talk-dominates-13403



It's cool you think your program has improved majorly...it's idiotic to see Clemson at #1 and the only undefeated team after playing 8 top 40 defenses and think they haven't too. I promise, there's a huge difference between Stoudt and Watson..your team might be able to now play better against Stoudt, but Watson being in changes as much in Clemson's O as OU having Mayfield.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 9:03 PM
 

And that pissed off DB is still on the team. He held teams in total to 8 catches all year. If everyone was judging us after the Miami game they'd think we were world beaters too. But the tigers will be ready . better strap your chin strap tight.
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 9:03 PM
 

And that pissed off DB is still on the team. He held teams in total to 8 catches all year. If everyone was judging us after the Miami game they'd think we were world beaters too. But the tigers will be ready . better strap your chin strap tight.
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Strange how any time y'all lose to us it's


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:18 PM
 

because y'all sucked...blue blood!

What will the excuse be this year?

Oh, some teams play 13 games a year...


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:45 PM
 

oh, btw, keep talking about "don't think your defensive front is as good"...let's put it out point blank...last years defense was #1 in the country, there's no where to go but level or down. When you lose 7 guys, down is expected...still being at #7 in the top 10, I'd say you're still not facing an easy defensive front at all...but you believe what you will.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:47 PM
 

So you concede they are down from last year. Thanks


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:51 PM
 

Um, #1 -#7 would say so...but interesting how you think that makes OU better...might want to look below. Looks like Clemson is better than OU on both sides of the trenches.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:50 PM
 

I'll just leave this here, like I did on landthieves:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaol


http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaadl


http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/f.../individual/39
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...nse/sort/sacks
Clemson, not OU, has the leading NCAA defensive player for tackles for loss. He's also higher than Striker in sacks...but then again, so is Kevin Dodd, CU's DE on the other side.


Defense point


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:40 PM
 

I read somewhere that last year's defense had, per individual, a lot less snaps. We rotated more. This year our guys had to play more snaps, and more consecutive games without a break.
If we were able to rotate more, and they had that week off mid-season, it can be assumed that that or defensive stats would have been better.
So the point is, this defense is closer to last year's than on paper if you account for that. I feel sorry for Oklahoma when they face them after a nice rest.


While we are pointing...

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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 6:37 AM
 

What exactly happened here?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/game?gameId=400763434

One word: unranked.

You can show efficiency stats all you want, but only one stat matters at the end of 60 minutes.
24-17
The major star Baker Mayfield has over DW4 this year is a 1 in the L column.

Jacobs Brissett may not be on that list, but he is a beast with the football. He is great training for a quarterback who can beat a team in multiple ways.

We all know this will be an entertaining game.

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 10:21 PM
 

Baker is 2nd in the country in passing efficiency.
Watson is 11th

Baker is the third best qb you've faced? Is that how I read it?


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:05 PM
 

Hmm...couldn't be a reason why...

Team Passing Efficiency Defense of opponents played:
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/40

Oklahoma
Top 50 (3):
#20, #24, #34
Top 51-100 (5):
#58, #64, #74, #87 (lost to), #92
Bottom 100-127 (4):
#109, #110, #112, #120

Clemson
Top 50 (7):
#9, #16, #17, #31, #39, #42, #50
Top 51-100 (5):
#61, #71, #83, #95, #99
Bottom 100-127 (0)

You guys ever going to be done trying to fluff up Mayfield while not comparing defenses faced? Funny how the two together can paint a different picture...


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:08 PM
 

FYI, you're about to face #7...

Clemson #7
Oklahoma #12


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:10 PM
 

Thank you Tigerman, exactly. And this is precisely why they came up with the total QBR metric, to make sense of the nonsense. How anyone could look at a single metric like passing efficiency and use it as a foundation for calling one of the best quarterbacks in the country "average" is just mind-boggling.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:24 PM
 

Hey coot!!! It's called over 3 weeks of rest. Take that negative crap back to the coot boards. Go Tigers!!


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:25 PM
 

Oh your a sooner? I bet last year you said the same crap.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:28 PM
 

> So let me get this straight, Syracuse, NCState, USC
> and UNC and the best offense in football BC scored 17
> points on Clemson and OU's offense all of sudden
> isn't better than those? In your analysis did you
> figure out why UNC and NC State scored their TDs in
> less than 2 minutes on your defense?

Those are fair questions, to which we adopt the SEC response strategy:

If we win big, we're King Kong dominant.

If we win small...we didn't really want to be there.

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Maybe he thinks your offense is more like Louisville?


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:56 PM
 

Would you rather lose 45-17 or 45-35?


Glad your son saw the light and made the right decision


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:35 PM
 

You...well....not so much. Switch allegiances while you can!

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:50 PM
 

Dude, it's a personal analysis. Relax. Not everyone necessarily agreed with it. We know OU is good and poses a problem...no need to come here and slob on their knobs.

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:05 PM
 

Don't apologize you have every right to your opinion! As a Marine I got your back!!!
GO TIGERS!!!!

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We heard all about how bad OU would beat us last year


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 7:51 PM
 

But we all know how that ended. Spin it anyway you want. Everyone is disrespecting our tigers again. When the ball is kicked off , all the experts in the world and all their opinions won't matter. OU drew the short straw. You get us again. Both teams are playing each other because we pose the biggest threat to bama. Bottom line! Everything else is smoke and mirrors. GO TIGERS!!!!,

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:50 PM
 

What about their run game? I've heard so much about their 2 running backs.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 6:20 PM
 

I think Clemson wins. But in a shootout. Oklahoma is very good. I would say

Tigers 55
Oklahoma 45


I think this is crazy. I feel good about our chances...

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 8:36 PM
 

but I can't believe people are thinking Clemson 45-17

OU is better than most of the teams on our schedule. We didn't put most of our opponents away like that.

None of the top 10 teams we faced did be blow out. Being confident is one thing, but this prediction seems high.

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Re: I think this is crazy. I feel good about our chances...

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 9:58 PM
 

The reasons Clemson will win by a large margin again (45-17)?
Because CLEMSON is better.
Because we have rested.
Because we studied film.
Because Watson didn't win the Heisman and the whole team is pissed.
But mostly, because Dabo and Brent are pissed that with all Clemson has done; being the ONLY undefeated team in the nation; the ONLY team to have beaten 3 top ten teams; the ONLY team to have been ranked #1 by the committee; and being the only #1 team and having to listen to how Alabama should be #1 all year. And now, now to have to listen to the "experts" tell us that a team that was going to run all over us last year, but failed to score a touchdown, is amazingly going to beat us this year.

I don't have the numbers in front of me, but:
Six games ago, Oklahoma played the 127th defense in the nation.
Five games ago, Oklahoma played the 126th defense in the nation.
Four games ago, Oklahoma played the 104th defense in the nation.
I'm not impressed with these wins!

Then, the last three games, Oklahoma played teams without their starting quarterbacks on the field. Some were 2nd string and some 3rd string quarterbacks. Mighty impressive wins there too (ha). Might have something to do with the turnover margin so high in your favor.


Is Oklahoma any different this year? You tell me! Last year they were rested. Last year they studied film. How did that work for them. This year, Samaje Perine is not the only back in their backfield. Now they have two backs that will run all over us. I think not, they'll just divide the negative yards between them. Their quarterback is a great scrambler. What??? Against defenses that are ranked 125th in the nation. The only scrambling he'll be doing is back to the bench and hoping he doesn't have to get back on the field again anytime soon.

The only reason I gave you 17 points is that when the third string gets in, you'll maybe score a touchdown or a field goal.

Merry Christmas and a HAPPY "CLEMSON" NEW YEAR.


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Not so fast my friend....


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 9:48 PM
 

If UNC's QB had thrown a couple more passes on target we might not even be in this game.

Don't get me wrong, I think we win but a 4th quarter maybe last 2 min or so game.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 10:22 PM
 

I can't believe I just read through 5 pages of the same Sooner rhetoric without a single mention of the "air raid offense" or "plays per game".

Where are the other two trolls that you stormed the beach with last night CUDad? This isn't even fair, no?


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 10:23 PM
 

Ahh, Birddawg arrives. Let me go get my popcorn.

Air Raid PowerPoint coming up in 3, 2, 1...


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:17 PM
 

Yeah I guess you guys have a pretty bad taste in your mouth about Air Raid offenses after Holgo and WVU torched Clemson for 70 the last time you played in the Orange Bowl.


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:22 PM
 

That wasn't the last time we played in the orange bowl. Please educate yourself.


That was 4 years and a completely different coaching staff


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:27 PM
 

Ago. It was also not the last time we played in the Orange Bowl. We played in it 2 years ago and demolished Ohio State, but not as bad as the whole staff and most of the returning players who absolutely ravaged your team last year.

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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:28 PM
 

Um, last time we played in the Orange Bowl was 2 years ago...get educated. Clemson defeated Ohio State, the year before they became the National Champions.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=340030194


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Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:33 PM
 

oh, and btw, Kevin Steele was the DC in the WV game, just a point....Clemson hasn't lost a bowl game since Venables became the DC. Hasn't lost a game since Tony Elliott and Jeff Scott became the co-offensive coordinators (which first game was the OU bowl game), as a side note.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=323660228
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=340030194
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400610208


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 12:25 AM
 

I won't reiterate what the last few guys just said as you're clearly disillusioned about when the last time we played in the orange bowl was and how we performed.

What I don't understand is your guys' insistence that the air raid offense is something magical, as if it cannot be defended. The air raid offense does have cons you know, particularly when you're playing a great passing defense. Now I know you're not accustomed to playing one of those but we are ranked #5 in passing yards allowed and #7 in total defense. Why can't you digest those numbers are factual and relevant?

The air raid is an awfully-one-sided offense. And if it isn't clicking, your defense gets zero rest which will result in an onslaught by Deshaun and company. You must know that! Sure, it's a fan-favorite when it's working, but it can also result in an offensive line slacking because pass blocking is much easier than run blocking. If your line gives and inch, we will crush them, literally. I hope your guys throw in some contingency planning to enable them short gains when necessary, as well as clock management and sustained drives if you want to remain relevant once you realize we aren't a team you just throw and throw and throw against. The air raid relies on consecutive completions to be successful, as well as receivers making things happen after the catch, I just don't see it happening. We have sure tacklers, hard hitters and great coverage guys in the secondary.

If your offensive line can't contain the pass rush, Mayfield will be throwing more prayers than accurate passes all afternoon. The air raid isn't new, you know that. It's been employed and tweaked for 20+ years now. Zone and cover 2 work great against it with safeties over the top in nickel and dime packages. Disguise blitzes, make it hard for the quarterback to read pre-snap, and you're in good shape. It's not like it's some space-age system that no one has tape on.

Further, though the air raid is highly effective, it requires a quick trigger pull from the QB in finding the right playmaker. Given Mayfield's 36 sacks and roll-out preference, he doesn't come off as a 2-second-release type of guy. Take away his muscle memory and disturb his ability / time to read what's going on and he can become ordinary very quickly.


While we are talking about material relevant to this year...

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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 7:42 AM
 

How'd you guys do in your last Orange Bowl appearance?

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I believe they lost that one 55-19 to USC, but I'll wait

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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 8:06 AM
 

for our Oklahoma buddy to respond before that's confirmed.

On a side note, Stillwater must be getting pretty concerned as they haven't seen their idiot in a few days.

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Re: I believe they lost that one 55-19 to USC, but I'll wait

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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 8:22 AM
 

this ougrad dude is as bad as coot fans...coot logic, spewing nonsense, etc.

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It's painfully obvious that his kid at Clemson got his/her

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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 10:03 AM
 

brains from his/her mother.

Geesh.

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Re: JUST WATCHED OKLAHOMA'S LAST 2 GAMES...


Posted: Dec 15, 2015 11:53 PM
 

Good grief. Some Sooner fans just don't get it. They think their team is worthy of #4 'cause they beat some lame teams missing their key players. Wow.

All you have to do is watch the Tennessee game and see how close they came to being discarded for the entire season. UT absolutely dominated them and then just laid down. I wouldn't want to even discuss that game if I was a Sooner fan.

-They still cannot tackle in space.
-Their QB holds the ball too long for our D.
-Their best RB - Perine - was absolutely shut down last year, and somehow they expect him to be a Heisman winner or something now against the best D they have faced all year.
-Their best plays are slants to the middle if the OU Oline can keep our D off of BM long enough.
-The can't seem to hardly ever connect over the top on the long ball. BM just can't make those throws.
-BM throws short stuff really well, but press coverage might prevent some of that.

No - I could go on and on, but the only real way that CLEMSON loses this game is TO's, and lots of them. OU will endure another long off-season. They need to prepare for that.


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