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Legend [19610]
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Thanks Obama-Biden***
Sep 18, 2020, 10:30 AM
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Hall of Famer [22388]
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Trump's failed Covid response has highlighted his ineptitude
Sep 18, 2020, 10:40 AM
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With a normal human being as president, Covid would have been an opportunity to rally the country around their leadership and coast to re-election.
Instead we got Trump...
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Re: Trump's failed Covid response has highlighted his ineptitude
Sep 18, 2020, 10:47 AM
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Re: Trump's failed Covid response has highlighted his ineptitude
Sep 19, 2020, 10:42 AM
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COVID must be a Socialist Democrat illness. The Republicans keep rolling along with their lives while the Socialist Democrats are hiding and whinning about it unless they want to riot and destroy the businesses of good, hard working middle class people. For those Socialist Democrat anarchists, COVID is not a problem or concern. Move on to another topic and come out of your closet or basement, wherever you're hiding.
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All-In [48078]
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Re: US median household income highest ever prior to Covid
Sep 18, 2020, 11:04 AM
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Neat. It's still dog shyatt for 80% of America.
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Lot o points [155920]
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We may as well be Uganda.
Sep 18, 2020, 11:06 AM
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It is terrible here. I'm sick of straining elephant poop chunks out of my water.
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Re: We may as well be Uganda.
Sep 18, 2020, 11:08 AM
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Youre a clueless moron. Now scurry off. Most of America is not saving or making it.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Are you just upset that you're going to have to vote Trump?***
Sep 18, 2020, 12:41 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75719]
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Re: Are you just upset that you're going to have to vote Trump?***
Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM
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Wait, why does anybody have to vote Trump? Are you saying we've made it all the way to the point people can only vote Trump?
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Lot o points [155920]
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I was agreeing with you.
Sep 18, 2020, 2:30 PM
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Our poor have to use pre-paid cell phones....IN 2020!!! Unacceptable.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Re: We may as well be Uganda.
Sep 18, 2020, 12:41 PM
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OH NO, WE'RE A CHITHOLE COUNTRY NOW!
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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It was a sugar high.***
Sep 18, 2020, 11:04 AM
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All-In [48078]
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Re: It was a sugar high.***
Sep 18, 2020, 11:11 AM
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Youre about to see the most homeless people in decades and a complete collapse among senior citizens in 15 years. This country is ticking time bomb financially. Only idiots don't see the obvious.
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Heisman Winner [111601]
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Dang
Sep 18, 2020, 11:22 AM
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if only we had an ample supply of Masks back in February and our commander and chief was not a complete psycho.
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If only Trump had been president for the last 4 years,
Sep 18, 2020, 12:33 PM
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he could have solved the problem.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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That doesn't excuse Trump ignoring the problem...
Sep 18, 2020, 12:40 PM
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for nearly three years after he took office. Had this pandemic hit in his first few months maybe but not three years later. It's not as if he was all about saving taxpayers' money either.
To be fair I will point out that China hid the seriousness of the viral outbreak long enough to buy every stitch of PPE on the globe and barred any PPE manufacturers in China from exporting PPE. I'll also say that Trump had the same CDC and NIH directors that Obama had and they should share the blame for not making it clear that our stockpile was depleted but I don't excuse Trump completely.
Each state is guilty of not having properly prepared too. There's plenty of blame to go around on this subject.
I feel a little more level headed about this today. It might have something to do with football distracting me from my usual position of blaming the left for all of America's problems.
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Re: That doesn't excuse Trump ignoring the problem...
Sep 18, 2020, 1:12 PM
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1988, I'm finally gonna almost fully agree with you. They had a pandemic exercise(Crimson Contagion) 6 months before it hit and the first conclusion in the report was they were low on PPE, esp. N-95 masks. The real blame lies with congress for not appropriating the funds to build the stock pile back up in a non-emergency situation, so not Trump's fault. However, Rick Bright, the FORMER head of BARTA, was sending warning emails up the chain to Azar in mid January and beyond that we needed to expand production at US plants ASAP and they were ignored, maybe not Trump's fault either. Regardless, by the time anybody acted, it was already too late by that point anyway with everybody in the world desperately needing the same things. Same reason for the testing problem, lack of reagents generally only produced by China.
I also feel a little more level headed today from my usual position of blaming Trump for all of America's problems. If he had been upfront, got everybody on the same page such that people were not getting into fights with Costco management over a tiny issue like masks, had centralized the purchasing of all PPE and test kits and not had all the states competing with each other and the world at the same time, he would have saved lives and would be destroying Biden to cruise to his 2nd term. IMO
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Re: That doesn't excuse Trump ignoring the problem...
Sep 20, 2020, 3:29 PM
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The only time states competed with each other was when suppliers and hoarders set up bidding wars. Trump recommended that states join in purchasing to have greater purchasing power. You addressed the problems in the federal stockpile and while recognising that states were responsible for their stockpiles totally ignored that state which were trying to buy for their needs had sorely failed their citizen by not restocking their shelves.
I believe you will find that NY, NJ, Pennsylvania and California cried the loudest and might want to review a couple videos to be fully updated on historical facts.
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/thread/Stop-lying-and-stop-trying-to-rewrite-history-2007877?tstart=0
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Oh-yeah-another-one-27644341
It is not my intent to defend Trump here but only to point out that states have a certain measure of authority over their health departments and therefor a certain responsibility to their citizens to govern their health systems and see that they function to serve their people. They failed.
Trump, as I've said many times, allowed the CDC to botch the US national response to the epidemic by allowing the CDC to control testing for weeks. The CDC demanded that no private labs could dally in their business. I refer you to Dr Helen Chu who isolated and identified the virus in WA and the CDC's demand that she quit testing after weeks of emails she sent telling them there was a problem.
That does not excuse NY, NJ, Pennsylvania or any other state from shirking their responsibility.
In fact, Trump exercise POTUS power by invoking the defense production act, thus the videos of governors praising him for 'giving them everything they needed.'
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Re: Dang
Sep 19, 2020, 12:15 PM
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@Tigerbalm1 Don’t stop there. Go ahead and finish it off like Biden did and say that if Trump would’ve done it right no one, I repeat no one, would have died.
Biden said it, and he said just look at the data, so this must be true.
I’m sure a 50 year politician can look at and understand data better than me, a lowly PhD engineer.
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Oculus Spirit [83121]
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You do realize every year has been the highest ever
Sep 18, 2020, 12:20 PM
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, except after our economic collapse caused a decrease in 2009 and 2010.
A new record is set every year and this has continued under Trump. The link below only goes to 2016.
https://www.multpl.com/us-median-income/table/by-yearUS Median Income table by year, historic, and current data. Current US Median Income is 59,039.00.
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Oculus Spirit [83121]
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Crickets.***
Sep 18, 2020, 4:31 PM
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Re: Crickets.***
Sep 19, 2020, 1:19 PM
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It's nice to throw out a chart without looking at results and what the data is saying. Most people do not want to take time to look but this is in my wheel house. There is no comparison dude. Obama - Biden did nothing for the American worker.
The Obama years 2009 to 2016 Avg Income
2008 starting point reference - $50,303 2009 - $49,777 (-1.7%, Inflation 3.8%) total worker loss 5.5% 2010 - $49,276 (-1%, Inflation +1.5%) total worker loss of 2.5% 2011 - $50,054 (+1.5%, Inflation 3%) total worker loss 1.5% 2012 - $51,017 (+1.9%, Inflation 1.7%) total worker gain 0.2% 2013 - $51,939 (+1.8%, Inflation 1.5%) total worker gain 0.3% 2014 - $53,657 (+3.3%, Inflation 0.8%) total worker gain 2.5% 2015 - $56,516 (+5%, Inflation 0.7%) total worker gain 4.3% 2016 - $59,039 (+4.4%, Inflation 2.1%) total worker gain 2.3%
Avg Annual Gain ($s) for 8 years = $1092
Now , how did Trump do in his 1st 3 years?
2016 starting point reference - $59,039 2017 - $62,626 (+5.5%, Inflation 2.1%) total worker gain 3.4% 2018 - $64,324 (+2.7%, Inflation 2.1%) total worker gain 0.6% 2019 - $68,703 (+6.8%, Inflation 1.8%) total worker gain 5%
Avg Annual Gain ($s) for 3 years = $3221
That my Liberal friend is almost triple improvement by Trump for the American worker. Is that cricket enough for you.
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Shout out to TIGGITY for an eval...***
Sep 20, 2020, 3:01 PM
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