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It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for.......
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It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for.......


Feb 18, 2019, 5:21 PM

his coaching style/inability as to why we lose.

When are you going to realize that it starts with his inability to recruit the players we need? That's where it starts. If we don't have the talent to begin with, we're not going to make the jump up to where we want to be.

You're focusing on a symptom of the problem, not the cause of the problem.

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Re: It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for.......


Feb 18, 2019, 5:28 PM

You mean, we actually have a BB team? I thought we's given that up.

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Why do you keep posting in basketball threads?


Feb 18, 2019, 8:15 PM

You’ve made it clear that you don’t care about Clemson basketball and don’t view it as a priority.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for.......


Feb 18, 2019, 5:31 PM

He recruits the big boys then the dukes of the world buy them out from under us

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Recruiting at Clemson is a Clemson problem.......


Feb 18, 2019, 5:55 PM

We have had some pretty good coaches over the years and to a man they have not been able to sign the top 5% of recruits. They simply go elsewhere. We have no (or slight) tradition. The top guys want to go where winning is done every year. That is not us. We are respectable in hoops. We don't embarrass and play a fairly entertaining brand of basketball. We will have to have a dabo lightning in the bottle moment to win big. Hadn't happened yet.

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Orange Googlers Unite

Save Tigernet--Boot the coots(you know who I mean).


We don’t need a Dabo.


Feb 18, 2019, 8:17 PM

We need an administration that supports basketball in a meaningful and consistent way. Only then will we see what Brownell can accomplish here, and whether that is good enough or if we need to find someone else.

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Feb 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

basketball in a meaningful and consistent way, Brownell wouldn't be the coach at Clemson.

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Re: It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for.......


Feb 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

So if it's his inability to recruit the type of players we need, then you replace the coach with one who can.
Isn't that basically what happened with Tommy Bowden?
Nice guy but couldn't recruit!
Is that the problem?

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So we should let Dabo coach basketball too?***


Feb 18, 2019, 6:24 PM



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Our recruiting issues are much bigger than the head coach at any particular time.


Feb 18, 2019, 6:51 PM

Look at the crowd tomorrow night and try to convince a top recruit that we really care about basketball. If we did, the place would be full regardless of the record, game time etc.

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Recruiting was not the problem with Bowden


Feb 18, 2019, 6:57 PM [ in reply to Re: It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for....... ]

His teams had enough talent to perform more consistently than they did.

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Tommy Bowden recruited a top 5 class in 2008.


Feb 18, 2019, 8:23 PM [ in reply to Re: It seems like most of you are blaming Brownell for....... ]

Which is partly why expectations were so high going into the 2008 season, when Tommy lost his job. He recruited well, but wasn’t a good gameday coach at all. That was his problem.

Brownell’s issue is getting the talent we need. He always gets a lot out of his players and I hope he gets the chance to coach a more talented team in the not too distant future.

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He recruited players who were good enough...


Feb 18, 2019, 6:57 PM

to make it to the sweet 16 last season. The same players, with another year of his coaching under their belts, have one win over a quality team this season and almost certainly will not even make the field of 64. How does that happen? Why should we be ok with it in YEAR NINE???????????

We shouldn’t be ok with it. We have to stop extending the contract on mediocrity and find a new coach who knows how to develop and progress the talent he recruits; then maybe we WILL be able to recruit and stop relying on a team made up of transfers.

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Please stop with this “same players” line.


Feb 18, 2019, 8:25 PM

We lost Grantham, who is currently playing in the NBA, as well as Devoe, who is playing professionally elsewhere. Both were not only talented, but vocal leaders as well. We miss their leadership a lot this year.

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You are correct - losing Grantham and Devoe


Feb 18, 2019, 9:31 PM

is significant. Did you expect that losing those two players would be enough to keep us from making the tournament? Before this season began what were your expectations?

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They go hand in hand.***


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