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Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247
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Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 5:56 AM

OSU beatwriter makes the case that OSU will push Clemson around and score lots of points on the an overrated Clemson "paper-tiger" defense, because the Tigers don't play anyone.

Touche. The Big Ten is as usual is a conference fill of anemic high school offense's that can't score and slow defense.

He makes a strange case as to why OSU will win, much less not get blown out again. If he thinks Clemson's offense isn't going to be able to score because we haven't played anybody I'd simply say, touche.


https://247sports.com/college/clemson/LongFormArticle/Ohio-State-Buckeyes-football-looking-toward-Fiesta-Bowl-match-up-with-Clemson-Tigers-140220902/#140220902_2


OSU is about to experience the horrification of playing Clemson in a CFP game, again.

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 7:25 AM

I hope they all believe this, OSU fans and players alike. I thought the line would immediately begin to break toward OSU, but it hasn't so far. I guess most people who actually put money on the game aren't as stupid as the average fan or ESPN analyst.

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They do believe it. just go look on twitter


Dec 10, 2019, 7:33 AM

It's going to be another rude awakening for them that football lives in the south.

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Re: They do believe it. just go look on twitter


Dec 10, 2019, 8:27 AM

Their fans are the most rude fanbase I've ever come across. (Gamecocks don't count)
They've been attacking me on Twitter for supporting our Tigers. They post all this junk about how they're going to easily beat us. We're overrated, played nobody, we won't be ready to play a team as talented as they are, yada, yada, yada.

One guy even said Penn State, Wisconsin and Minnesota would all beat us too. ??

I am going to thoroughly enjoy beating the Bucknuts. (Yes, they are good and might beat us but we deserve some respect ) #GoTigers

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The Rust Belt


Dec 20, 2019, 2:33 PM

They all live under a tremendous inferiority complex. They know they attend(ed) a second rate school in a second rate (and dying) state -- they don't call it the rust belt for nothing. And, none of the old farts can figure out why all of their kids can't wait to leave the state for greener pastures south and west. You know how you get from Clemson to Columbus? You go north until you can smell it, and then you go west until you step in it.

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They believed it in 2016 too


Dec 10, 2019, 9:04 AM [ in reply to Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247 ]

I haven't forgotten. It was just going to be a little party stop in the desert for the Buckeyes on their way to another national title. We saw how that turned out. <img border=">

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 7:33 AM

Real football knowledgeable folks understand that the " weak schedule " argument is pure fiction . It's an excuse-ism . It's fluff . It's a narrative tree that rarely produces fruit.
The team in front of Ohio State is the defending National Champion , the winner of 28 straight college football games and a team more experienced in this playoff than any of the other three .
If Ohio State's fans and beat writers want to pick at the scab that says Clemson " doesn't play anybody " ... that will do just fine ... until the 28th of December . After they're dispatched by Clemson I wonder if the weaker opposing teams we've beaten will include them ...or will there just be more excuse-isms ?


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This is so lazy. I get that it’s a new team but there are 3


Dec 10, 2019, 7:46 AM

seniors on our OLine. They don’t forget football at the beginning of each year. Clemson has been in the playoffs every year. They have faced plenty of good defenses. Whether Ohio state’s defense is successful or not remains to be seen, but the idea that our OLine will be “shocked” is just lazy and stupid.

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Re: This is so lazy. I get that it’s a new team but there are 3


Dec 10, 2019, 8:19 AM

Our backups play a ton of snaps during the season . They're well seasoned at Clemson even if they aren't an everyday starter .
This writer and many others don't really know what is going on down in Pickens County .
They write stock responses and haven't a single incite that would keep them from coming off as uninformed about the culture and process of our system .
Poor and lazy journalism fed to the hungry fanboys of whatever institution we're about to club to death .

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 7:47 AM

Post this quote Dabo.

But while Ohio State has been challenged on at least four occasions by like talent, Clemson has not hardly been challenged. They are in for a rude awakening when they realize their OL can't just push OSU's DL out of the way. They are in for a rude awakening when Ohio State's skill position guys come out and make plays against their vaunted defense.

Their defense is rated No. 1 nationally. But like we said about Wisconsin, at least some of that lofty ranking is based on playing below top 50 offenses for the most part. Maybe they have talent but some of their ranking is paper tiger-esque. So let's see how they react when OSU gets physical with them. Nobody really has shoved them off their mark this year. That is going to change.

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 8:11 AM

Ha

Clemson is the #1 in defensive efficiency, OSU is #2.

OSU's success is that they are a B10 hybrid. In this case, when Urban came to down, they developed an odd scheme were they blend both the "Slow in the Snow" with better talent and better speed in skill positions. This is why they have dominated against the likes of Michigan. Still, the "powers" in the B10 have not been tested by non-B10 schools. The best OOC wins are Pitt and ND. Both schools that basically play a B10 style of football. The OOC schedule for the B10 is hot garbage. The ACC while losing a lot of the OOC game, at least played somebody.

However, the interesting thing for OSU is how they bring that hybrid style to face either Tiger team that has a huge advantage in the skill positions, especially when it comes to speed and BV's schemes. OSU is still B10 dependent on the up-the-middle running game to force teams to stack the box in order to throw. It is still B10 style, adapted, even mutated but even on D but with better players they kinda hold true to form.

Fields passing rating goes down playing top 25 teams. Drops from 190 to 173
TL16 passer rating goes UP playing top 25 teams. Goes from 176 to 179 (248 vs UVA)

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247 ]

This beat writer is a clown. Clemson doesn't play top 50 offenses? Ok, clown boy.

We've played 3 top 25 offenses, and 2 top 50. Ohio state has played 3 total top 50 offenses.

47% of there schedule is made up of teams ranked above 100 in total offense

If anyone has a "paper defense", its 100% Ohio St.

I have a feeling this is going to be an ### kicking of epic proportions.

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 9:57 AM

Top offenses:

#3 Clemson
#5 31-0
#12 Wake Forest
#14 North Carolina
#25 Boston College
#31 Indiana
#36 Louisville
#37 Wisconsin
#49 Minnesota

B10 Four Top 50 Offenses, average rank 30.5ish
ACC Five Top 50 Offenses, average tank 18th

Not only that, but OSU only played 2 of the 3 top B10 Offenses

We played 4 of 4 top ACC offenses.

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Indiana had to play with a backup QB v tOSU


Dec 20, 2019, 4:01 PM

They see no offenses with a pulse.

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 20, 2019, 9:13 AM [ in reply to Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247 ]

Jet fighters don’t notice the terrain below them. Bucknuts have not had to deal with blitzkrieg and storm troopers since their 31-0 battle.

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 7:54 AM

Argument from silence - argumentum ex silentio. Apparently 31-0hio State is suffering from the same failure that plagues ESPN. Speaking of Silence 31-0.

They are basically trying to pin an argument that we "are not on their level" because we lack a 'schedule'. Therefore the "lack" of evidence in strength of schedule and dismisses our claim.

In addition, there is an argument of "guilt by association " They are tying to dismiss our National Championship and undefeated record by associating the negative "ACC is weak" of our conference associates.

At this point, they are also begging the question.

Sure, I am a Clemson Ph.D. but even a jawja fan could understand this if given enough crayons. Coots not so much.

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

Don't confuse these O310 St Bucknuts with Maff and Fakts. The only thing close to "Just means more" than the SEC is the B1G preTENd! Their top teams, O310 St and Michigan, are 1-5 against teams from SC (0-4 since 2000) and 0-1 from Western NC!

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Funny you should include that picture, because the first


Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 AM

Mock Draft I looked at has those 3 all going in the first round. I guess the National Football League is taking a total flier on the talent of these guys, since we haven't played anybody. :)

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 8:42 AM

So the Ferrari just set a course record in winning the high profile road course race. She pulls the Ferrari into the winners circle and exits the vehicle to a chorus of boos. No champagne and no trophy. She asked what is going on. She is told:
“You set the course record in winning this race!!! While running the race you set the top speed record too! Unfortunately we will have to remove those records and move you to third!”. “Why?” She asks. “Well it seems the competition wasn’t good enough for your records and for the first place finish to count. The competition was just too slow!”
“So how did that change the outcome and nullify my performance?” She asked.
“Well without a few fast cars on the track the results just shouldn’t count. You really weren’t as fast as the results indicated. Sorry!”

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Don't want to switch this discussion to politics but


Dec 10, 2019, 10:51 AM

this sounds eerily similar to what the Dem's are trying to do right now! LOL
I would HOPE most true Xs and Os Buckeye football fans would realize they are running up against a formidable foe regardless what the yahoos are saying.

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Re: Don't want to switch this discussion to politics but


Dec 10, 2019, 11:11 AM

You could have made the same point without inserting politics into it, but you couldn't help yourself. People like you make this board so much less enjoyable. Like seriously.

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Sorry dude, that just occurred to me when I read the post


Dec 20, 2019, 8:43 AM

that I responded to. By the looks of your Tigerpulse, you dislike everything and are very negative. If you don't like my posts simply ignore them and if you don't like the board, don't come back, pretty simple. Go Tigers!

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Re: Don't want to switch this discussion to politics but


Dec 20, 2019, 3:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't want to switch this discussion to politics but ]

"Like seriously."

???

Lighten up, Frances. You might as well. He's still in the White House.

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Re: Don't want to switch this discussion to politics but


Dec 20, 2019, 3:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't want to switch this discussion to politics but ]

"Like seriously."

???

Lighten up, Frances. You might as well. He's still in the White House.

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uhm....touche means "touch," which is a way of indicating


Dec 10, 2019, 8:55 AM

you believe the other side scored a point.

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Re: uhm....touche means "touch," which is a way of indicating


Dec 10, 2019, 1:01 PM

I'm glad somebody pointed this out. I was confused what he was trying to say. Does he agree with what they are saying or disagree?

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Re: Hilarious take on Clemson vs. OSU on 247


Dec 10, 2019, 8:55 AM

It's like they all somehow slept through last season when we didn't play anybody until we faced the Greatest Team of All Time, and then still hadn't played anybody.

They remind me of the Oklahoma fans who said things were gonna be different because they didn't have their Heisman-contender QB in the previous year's bowl game. Ahem.

Ohio is full of people who were smart enough to escape West Virginia, but not smart enough to escape Ohio.

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I think it's going to be a close game with Ohio State.


Dec 10, 2019, 9:50 AM

BV has done very well with a much much much less talented DL than we had last year. They are good, obviously, but nothing like Bryant, Ferrel, Lawrence, Huggins and Wilkins. Muse is a battle hog, but he's relatively easy to get turned around on double moves. OSU has the muscle, the brains and the speed to score on us multiple times. If UVA can put points on the board in the 1st quarter, the OSU obviously can too. We have the best coordinator in college football, so we always have a solid chance, but our defense is not conspicuously better than their offense. BV is such a genius that he will likely anticipate our perceived weaknesses and bait OSU into trying to exploit them. That man is PRICELESS.

On the other side of the ball, If Lawrence has a good game then that's it. But, if he struggles a little bit with accuracy or with not taking sacks then they have the horses to sack him. Their star DE is about as good as our #11. He can make plays on anyone. Our WRs can play with anyone, but I want TL to have time. And even if our Oline has been solid, they have yet to face a DL anywhere near this good.

I want to humble Ohio State all over again as much as the next guy, but 31-0 is not happening again.

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O-31-0 may keep it within about 2 TDs... a moral victory


Dec 20, 2019, 4:20 PM

ala SCar last year.

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Venables is about to publish his Magnum Opus...


Dec 10, 2019, 11:51 AM

It will be printed in the blood and sweat of OSU and LSU players and coaches...

Neither of them know what is about to hit them...

Oh yeah, we also have an offense.

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We heard a lot of the same stuff last time. You think they


Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

Would be a little bit more humble.

They are basically coots with a trophy case.

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Another year, another school, another reporter yapping


Dec 11, 2023, 5:09 AM

About clemson's schedule.


If recent history holds true, clemson will win the game and the reporter will flip 180. He'll write an article about how unfair it was. Clemson played an easier schedule and didn't get beat up.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: My take on this is a little different


Dec 20, 2019, 3:46 PM

The questioner comes across as worried about their past experiences against us. The writer overstates his case based on the assumption that we are expecting to blow them out.

He concludes that the game will be closely contested and hard fought; therefore, the Buckeyes should have a good chance to win. I happen to agree: if it's close, the Buckeyes have a chance, because everybody knows that a blowout favors Clemson.

I have listened to Buckeye games on the TuneIn app this year where the analysts were really impressed with Dobbins' speed. Then i watched highlights from two of their bigger wins, and it looks like Dobbins is running on firm ground while everyone on defense is slogging through mud. How can northern boys be so slow and still have D1 FBS scholarships?

Dobbins is impressive, and his lower body strength formidable, and he catches the ball well out of the backfield; Fields is more accurate and stronger than i had thought, and Olave made some nice catches.

But come on, our DL are faster than Penn St LBs, our safetys tackle better, our DBs have more speed. And most of all, no way does a BV defense lose to a team with only 3 main weapons.

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