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Pompeo and Bolton have decided something very dangerous.
Feb 24, 2019, 1:23 PM
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They seem #### bent on pushing this Venezuela thing even to the point of an invasion.
Americans should be able to see how obvious the lies are coming from Pompeo today.
"Every option is on the table," Pompeo said on "Fox News Sunday" when asked whether the U.S. is considering a military option in Venezuela. "He added that the U.S. is "going to do the things that need to be done to make sure that the Venezuelan people's voice" is heard, that "democracy reigns" in the county and that there is "a brighter future for the people of Venezuela."
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/24/venezuela-pompeo-military-maduro-1182515
Anyone who takes that at face value is an idiot. That is not an overstatement. You have to be literally stupid to fall for this BS at this point. The guy is meeting with Kim Jung Un and bragging on how relations are better with us now. Does he really care about the will of the people and Democracy? It's impossible that that is the reason for our intervention. The guy sucks up to the Saudi Arabian totalitarian, sexist state that beheads people over religion and undoubtedly deserves blame for the attacks on 9/11. Does anyone need more proof that "freedom" and "humanitarianism" have little or nothing to do with our efforts in Venezuela?
This is about helping the US keep the world financial system rigged. And the only reason we need to do this is because without it, it's impossible to pay off our insane debt. We are literally creating humanitarian crises with sanctions in order to justify overthrowing governments that threaten our ability to live way beyond our means. That is the reality guys. Both parties are complicit. And so is our electorate for deluding ourselves into believing that we do this sh*t to help others.
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Re: Pompeo and Bolton have decided something very dangerous.
Feb 24, 2019, 3:18 PM
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Wonder why they aren't fighting so hard to promote democracy in Saudi Arabia?
Oh...never mind.
I don't believe I have seen such of collection of dangerous, dishonest public officials in this country in my lifetime.
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Re: Pompeo and Bolton have decided something very dangerous.
Feb 24, 2019, 5:06 PM
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Sure you have - with every administration that has ever been. The only difference with those elected officials today is that they are truly divided because they only want to serve their own interests and they are not "afraid" to push that way. No one can reign in any of them for a common good.
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I agree that Bolton and Pompeo are two of the worst ever...
Feb 24, 2019, 9:28 PM
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but this is something that has been done by every administration in my lifetime.
Hillary Clinton was about as bad as any of them. John Kerry is responsible for a lot of horrible decisions in Syria to. Those two pushed Obama HARD to do more to support terrorists fighting against Assad. One of my favorite things about Obama is that he resisted those two better than Trump has resisted his chicken-hawks. Trump has completely 180'd on Syria a few times now. And he's worst than any president in my lifetime when it comes to his naked aggression against Iran and Venezuela.
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Re: Pompeo and Bolton have decided something very dangerous.
Feb 25, 2019, 7:20 AM
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Gets a little more confusing and a little more strategic when the neighboring country is China. When you have neighboring countries like Brazil and Colombia that cannot let the unrest filter onto their borders and really have an interest, you can posture all day long and make a case for US Military support.
I say support because we can easily invade and support without one boot being on their soil.
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Yep.
Feb 25, 2019, 7:53 AM
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It's been a bad issue long before Trump.
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Because of the uniformity of how the different...
Feb 25, 2019, 9:48 AM
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admins have handled Saudi Arabia, I'm inclined to believe there has been a consistent judgement that the good outweighs the bad with them and I think (don't know) that it has to do with a lot more than just oil.
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It is more than oil. It's the petrodollar. We must have it
Feb 25, 2019, 12:40 PM
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because of our debt. If we lose it, then the dollar will sink through the floor. And with our current debt, that would destroy our way of life.
Step one is get the debt down, step two is divorce Saudi Arabia.
We are enabling the biggest supporter of international terrorism because we can't stop spending so much.
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Yes but we have to stop using that as justification.
Feb 25, 2019, 12:38 PM
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This is a great example of the destructive influence the two-party system has. As long as it can't be used as leverage... it gets not attention.
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I'm starting to get in the same boat with you on this
Feb 25, 2019, 7:55 AM
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The rhetoric is sounding awfully familiar. And every time--every single time--a president has taken us to war, even if the war is later found to be unpopular, his approval ratings have gone up.
It would be perfect timing for 2020.
Not like we haven't seen the "hey, we're going to 'liberate' people in an oil-rich nation but that's just a coincidence" plan before.
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Re: Pompeo and Bolton have decided something very dangerous.
Feb 25, 2019, 8:31 AM
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I guess we will find out if this batch is more incompetent than the one that lied us into Iraq, that is a pretty high bar.
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The stakes are higher now.***
Feb 25, 2019, 12:42 PM
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Re: The stakes are higher now.***
Feb 25, 2019, 5:53 PM
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Why?
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Re: The stakes are higher now.***
Feb 25, 2019, 6:42 PM
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we were only about 6 trillion in debt back then, hard to imagine...
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Re: Pompeo is dangerous.
Feb 25, 2019, 10:23 AM
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Rand Paul never has principles when it actually matters.
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I agree 100% Horrible, gutless decision by Rand Paul***
Feb 25, 2019, 12:41 PM
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Y'all are so silly sometimes
Feb 25, 2019, 5:47 PM
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There should be a Ron/Rand Paul rule just like there's a Hitler rule
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So do we step back and let this lazzy fare itself into
Feb 25, 2019, 9:13 PM
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whichever hand is holding the biggest wad of cash to feed the fat until last man standing or step up and aim for friendly terms for the potential spigot of petrodollars that the Big V has awaitin. Easy livin.
Pompeo told no lies that I saw in that statement. I thought he was very clear about possibilities, and apparently they are all on the table.
I wouldn't expect an actual invasion though until a bad enough news cycle cranks up for you know who. So maybe this Thursday.
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He said he will ensure the Venezuelan people's voice is...
Feb 26, 2019, 2:14 PM
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heard. That's a lie. This is a coup.
He is claiming that we are looking out for human rights. That's a lie, we wanted this situation (sanctions) so we could pull off a coup.
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