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CU Guru [1446]
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I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be conservative
Jun 18, 2020, 1:27 PM
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Daca? Another sad day for our country. Welp people if you bring in the third world you get the third world. Demographics are destiny
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Re: I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be conservative
Jun 18, 2020, 1:32 PM
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Garbage take, fit for the trash heap.
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Re: I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be conservative
Jun 18, 2020, 1:33 PM
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Lol nope. American traditions and values are finished thanks to this garbage
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Heisman Winner [137634]
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What are those American values and traditions, out of
Jun 18, 2020, 1:36 PM
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curiosity?
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CU Guru [1446]
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Re: What are those American values and traditions, out of
Jun 18, 2020, 1:45 PM
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Christian ethics and morals, the power of the nuclear family and self reliance
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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ironic***
Jun 18, 2020, 1:53 PM
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And somehow you think...
Jun 18, 2020, 2:00 PM
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Christianity and nuclear family will go away if we don't ship back those kids?
You know immigrants from those nations are predominantly Christian, right?
And Christianity was never a part of American value or tradition. Back to civics class with you.
I guess your family never immigrated here.
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Re: I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be conservative
Jun 18, 2020, 1:44 PM
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swamp is swampy
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Re: I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be conservative
Jun 18, 2020, 1:55 PM
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I support the Dreamers staying, but we need to make some changes moving forward.
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So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 1:58 PM
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What exactly is "conservative" about wanting to deport 700,000 people who were brought here without a choice as children, many of whom have only known America as their home?
When has that been a conservative ideal?
What, precisely, is your problem with demographic and how does that fit conservative ideology?
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Re: So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 PM
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illegal is illegal, immigration is the role of congress, not the executive branch
not sure why that is so hard to understand
why should one group be granted a waiver from the legal process of citizenship without congressional approval
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Re: So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 2:11 PM
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Because all things that are illegal aren't rational. There is common sense.
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Re: So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 2:20 PM
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there is a process to change existing law, that would be the rational thing to do, if everyone is expected to have equal protection
suppose trump just did an executive order outlawing abortion
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Because it would be shot down in court due to precedence,
Jun 18, 2020, 4:38 PM
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though Trump is probably dumb and desperate enough to try something like that during the election run-up to please his salivating throngs.
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110%er [7167]
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What precisely do you think executive orders are for?
Jun 18, 2020, 2:45 PM
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It sounds like your gripe is with Congress. If they don't want the Executive Branch to wield so much power, they can always do their job. The Supreme Court even told em as much back when they were complaining about W's war powers.
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Re: So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 3:30 PM
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You know, there have been a lot of laws throughout history that have been cruel and inhumane, and people just like you have demanded they be followed to the letter because they are law.
Deporting children who were forced to come here and now have only known America as their home is cruel and inhumane.
Why is that hard for you to understand? We aren't talking about adults who knowingly broke the law; we're talking about children who had no choice.
If you think it's okay to take a person in their early 20s who was brought here at the age of 2 and ship him or her back to a country he or she doesn't know, it's time for you to have some serious soul searching. And don't dare claim to be a Christian while you hold that belief.
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Re: So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 4:14 PM
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^^this
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Re: So, help me out.
Jun 18, 2020, 4:56 PM
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immigration laws are inhumane?
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Is that what I said? Need some fire for that straw man?
Jun 18, 2020, 5:20 PM
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I said overturning DACA and trying to deport a bunch of young adults and kids back to countries they don't know when they didn't come here by choice is inhumane. And you #### well know it is. Stay on subject and stop trying to straw man.
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Re: Is that what I said? Need some fire for that straw man?
Jun 18, 2020, 6:00 PM
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sounds like we dont need congress (lawmakers), if there are no lawmakers, then who needs SCOTUS?
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You're making odd deflections
Jun 18, 2020, 11:04 PM
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Because you know you are getting trounced here. A common tactic on this board.
Address the specific issue or concede defeat. Silence will also be considered a concession.
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Re: I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be conservative
Jun 18, 2020, 3:42 PM
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My ancestors are from Germany and England. Where are yours from?
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Mine are from here.
Jun 18, 2020, 8:59 PM
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We had it going when you heathens showed up. We hunted, fished and loved us up some squaws until you morons from Europe showed up with slaves and ruined our hunting grounds with fences and laws.
Thanks for the smallpox blankets though.
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Re: Mine are from here.
Jun 18, 2020, 11:05 PM
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Your claim of Native American ancestry is on par with Elizabeth Warren's.
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Oculus Spirit [93567]
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No one in their right mind wants to send DACA folks...
Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM
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back to Mexico, not even Trump. Trump only wanted DACA to be on the table when he tries to force the democrats to cooperate and legislate a decent immigration policy.
Quaz, here's some of my twisted logic. The SCOTUS just set a presidence for an EO not being undone by a following POTUS.
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feelings over law (constituionality)
Jun 18, 2020, 3:50 PM
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but it sounds like it might have gone the other way if the paperwork submitted had been correct
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SCOTUS only set a precedent for incompetent
Jun 18, 2020, 4:43 PM
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administrations that bungle the reasoning behind overturning, in this case something we can be thankful for with Trump and the people he has running things I guess.
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You are correct. No one in their right mind would.
Jun 18, 2020, 5:21 PM
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But Trump isn't in his right mind and he's always wanted to send them back. The cruelty is the point. And some people here apparently agree.
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Re: You are correct. No one in their right mind would.
Jun 18, 2020, 5:34 PM
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Illegals should be sent back. We shouldn’t be running a charity
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Re: You are correct. No one in their right mind would.
Jun 18, 2020, 6:03 PM
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i have heard him more than once say that he doesnt want to send daca folks back
he even offered a deal on daca and the democrats said no
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Re: You are correct. No one in their right mind would.
Jun 18, 2020, 6:06 PM
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democants standing in the door again, blocking access for minorities
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Oculus Spirit [93567]
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That's how they keep the plantation running smoothly.***
Jun 18, 2020, 8:56 PM
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Trump doesn't want DACA folks deported.
Jun 18, 2020, 8:55 PM
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Are you gone totally crazy? Trump just wants an immigration law which protect American workers.
Polls show that most American don't want open borders. If anyone here wants our southern border open without restrictions for who comes in they need to speak up.
While there's plenty of talk about how wrong Trump is about everything none here has called for open borders unless they are contradicting something Trump has said.
Do you want open borders, Cat? Speak now and defend your position on this.
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Re: Trump doesn't want DACA folks deported.
Jun 18, 2020, 11:09 PM
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Open borders and such have nothing to do with this. Again, another weak straw man.
If Trump didn't want Dreamers deported, he wouldn't have signed an EO ordering it. Period.
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