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Buy now!***
Dec 21, 2018, 4:38 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97675]
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It's more the Fed than the economy or the President.
Dec 21, 2018, 4:43 PM
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Wages, inflation, economic growth, all remain basically steady over a decade and yet Wall Street just keeps climbing WAY beyond inflation, GDP, or any other growth. It's disassociated from the economy in general and tied more to interest rates and debt which funds us now. So they're paranoid, and rightfully so.
https://www.thebalance.com/fed-funds-rate-history-highs-lows-3306135
I just hope it's not a worst case scenario. "Normalizing" rates to our current growth rate and inflation levels would put it around 4-5%. We're not halfway there. They're blowing the froth off the stock market. Just the other day Greenspan said low rates precipitate a crisis. Money always flows to some form of debt with low rates, and a crisis comes later when the greediest get their ##### handed to them. According to Greenspan a crisis is coming, we just don't know the debt involved. Mortgages again, student loans, corporate, government, who knows. Worst case is we get inflation and it's ALL debt broadly across many sectors.
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It's ALL Fed bro
Dec 22, 2018, 8:59 PM
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Forces working against the President to create a recession leading up to the 2020 election. Economic prosperity has been Trumps flagship accomplishment and its historically a major factor in election decisions (see Trump victory 2016). But don't tell the manufacturing sector this....they're shrugging it off. The silver lining might be that our rising interest rates will attract foreign money since rates are flat for the rest of the world. Our fkd up Fed is the only bank pulling this sh!t.
http://www.nam.org/outlook/
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Not sure if sirrius.***
Dec 21, 2018, 5:01 PM
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ded sirrius***
Dec 22, 2018, 7:41 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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There's a simple solution.
Dec 23, 2018, 11:18 AM
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We need another Dem in office who will QE stimulus until we're permanently out of this. How many do you think it will take, 100 or 150 more trillion?
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Re: There's a simple solution.
Dec 23, 2018, 8:30 PM
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I think you're referring to the additional debt we've piled on since electing President Game Show Host.
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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Remember when the smartaszes would give you a 20 spot...
Dec 23, 2018, 9:56 PM
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and tell you not to spend it all in one place. Yeah, neither did Obama.
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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So when is the final GDP numbers for Trump's 2nd year...
Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 PM
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come in. I'm looking forward to breaking even with you and I hope this market selloff doesn't put me in to you two c-notes.
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Fingers crossed.***
Dec 22, 2018, 7:42 PM
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Re: Fingers crossed.***
Dec 23, 2018, 11:12 AM
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If I can find a cosigner will you finance my debt. I didn't feel guilty about interest on the debt during Obama's administration when the fed number was zero but now...not paying interest is starting to weight on my conscience.
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Lot o points [155668]
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I waited till October to shift my allocations
Dec 21, 2018, 6:11 PM
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When the DJIA was over 1000 points higher than your sell off warning.
FACIAL
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All-In [34100]
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I shall seek your guidance going forward.***
Dec 22, 2018, 7:42 PM
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