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I really dislike the idea of college players getting paid.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:30 AM
 

If Nike selling a jersey with a popular college player’s number on it is such a big deal, I would prefer that there be a rule that such jerseys can’t be made or sold. That seems like a much simpler solution than playing on this slippery slope of paying players.

I know I’m oversimplifying the situation. But I like college sports being about amateur athletes playing sports while getting an education. If that isn’t possible in today’s climate, and the concern is that college sports are “making money at the expense of players,” then I’d rather cut back on what colleges are making. If that means cutting back on bowl payouts, TV network, facilities, and coaches’ salaries, so be it. I much prefer that to making college sports professional-lite.

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That is my concern as well.***

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:53 PM
 

Yes sir it will, and the mighty NCAA will be making the rules that end their power of governing college sports as they know it now. By the NCAA weakening to what's been said about college student athletes being paid, it's the beginning of the ending of all power the NCAA has had since the conception of the NCAA when it first became the court presiding over college rules and regulations!!!

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:35 AM
 

I agree with your sentiment but establishing a law which prohibits a company from making an orange jersey depicting the number 16 or a law that says you can't buy one seems a much steeper slippery slope than compensating players.


How is that any more complicated than the legal cluster it will be

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:38 AM
 

to start allowing amateur student-athletes to be paid?

I don’t want any new laws. I’m just making the point that it seems easier than these proposals to pay players in one form or another.

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Re: How is that any more complicated than the legal cluster it will be

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:47 AM
 

Banning the sale of jerseys would do nothing to address this problem. You really think if Nike were prohibited from selling TL jerseys (minus the name) that would affect Dabo's bottom line? And that's the crux of the issue; coaches and schools are making millions. There is no way to enact a prohibition against buying or selling a shirt w/o creating a law. I think you and I are in agreement that allowing players to earn money is a bad idea. I just don't think banning specific merchandise - besides the legal issues involved with something like that - is going to remedy the problem.


I realize it’s not just about jerseys.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:00 PM
 

I simply used that as an example of players feeling like others are profiting from their likenesses.

As I also said, I’m willing to cut the amount of profit made on college sports at the university level. This could be accomplished in multiple ways. Treat them like nonprofit organizations, or require a high percentage of revenue be given to the academic side of the universities.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:43 PM
 

They can make the jersey with any number or color they want. But even under today's laws, if they put a Tiger Paw or UGA logo on it without paying for licensing rights, they;ll eventually get shut down and sued. NCAA rule saying "you cannot license logo in combination with jersey numbers" is simple. but yeah, even that is easily sidestepped by post-purchases application of numbers and/or name. But then again, a post-purchase application of number/name would still not accrue any money for the student-athlete.

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Re: How is that any more complicated than the legal cluster it will be

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:33 PM
 

Don't get me wrong, I have my own concerns over how this changes the way college sports look from a competitive standpoint. I'm also not one of those who would say the athletes are playing for free and getting nothing in return, as they are getting an education, place to stay, being fed, getting exposure, etc...

However, what law would need to be written to allow student athletes to be paid? It requires the NCAA to change some rules, but what laws? The universities themselves aren't the ones that will be paying them under the current changes.

With that said, why is it so wrong for a college athlete to be able to earn money for their own likeness? I get the concerns over this being abused by boosters, as I share those concerns myself. I only hope that the NCAA will actually be able to enforce rules for obvious above fair market deals being made to impact where a recruit signs.

However, at it's basic core, why is it so wrong that Nike add names on jerseys if they wish to do so and give those players a share of the profits? Why is it so wrong if EA Sports wanted to bring back a NCAA Football game and pay the players a share of the profits for using their names and/or image? Why can't an athlete come up with a way to make money using social media? Obviously you'd want to monitor that to make sure it wasn't abused of course. If a regular college student sitting next to an athlete in a biology class can start up a business online and earn money while going to college then why is it so horrible that an athlete be able to do the same?

The athletes will still be taxed for any reported income, and any reported income can also be monitored by the NCAA to see if any deals are being made above regular fair market deals. I know many people are reading that and thinking about the money that's paid, but not reported. To that I ask, how is that any different from the way things have always been?

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Re: How is that any more complicated than the legal cluster it will be


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:48 PM
 

No laws would need to change, just NCAA participation rules, which schools enter into voluntarily and student-athletes also enter into voluntarily. No one is ever FORCED to play football for an NCAA school, but it is not hard to realize that if you want to play football for an NCAA school, you've got to play by their rules, whether that be not doing drugs, not taking PEDs, not having more practice than is allowed, or not getting paid more than is allowed.

Once players start getting paid by the schools, they will be employees, and a whole HOST of laws will suddenly apply, and chances are pretty good that many of them will be to the players and sports detriment. Can you imagine a bunch of college athletes filing income taxes in 6 or 7 different states (see jock taxes on income)? All the things like training table, medical care, tutoring, scholarship, will become taxable fringe benefits that they'll have to pay for. That sort of thing.

Then will come the unions. If college sports are not dead by then, they will be soon after.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:58 PM
 

I get the argument made when people say that nobody is forcing them to play. I have that same reaction whenever someone is dramatic with it by saying the athletes are slaves or something similar to that. However, just because they aren't forced to play doesn't mean they can't want more, or that changes should never be made. Nobody is forcing any of us who are employed to keep working where we are, but that doesn't stop us for wanting raises, promotions, better benefits, more time off, etc...

Obviously if we go long enough at a job without getting those things we'd start looking for another job, but there's simply no other option for most of these sports, especially in football if the athlete is looking for a chance to make it in the pros. I'd certainly agree that the NFL shares in that reason by having the 3 year rule, and not having a minor league to offer. I personally think a better solution would've been for the NFL to have offered up some compensation for college football athletes. College Football basically represents a free minor league system for the NFL. It's probably too late for that though, and it was never going to happen in the first place.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:40 AM
 

ahead and ban the production/sale of meat, soda, alcohol, guns and gas-powered vehicles.

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Re: Yes, let's end capitalism! While we're at it we should go

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:44 AM
 

Being a Vegan, and a teetotaler, diabetic, non gun-owner, and Tesla owner, I'm having trouble understanding your position regarding capitalism.


Good.***

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:47 AM
 



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That’s not what I’m saying at all.***

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:02 PM
 



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No, you're just saying you'd prefer a rule

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:27 PM
 

restricting the production of a product as opposed to players being able to make money from their own names and likeness. Which is, you know...restricting capitalism.

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No, I prefer that college players be “paid” via

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:50 PM
 

a free education, free tutoring, free healthcare, free dining, free training, etc., knowing that they are getting many perks simply because they are good at a sport. Getting prepared to have a successful life with the additional opportunity to play sports professionally is worth an incredible amount of money.

I don’t have a lot of sympathy for players feeling like victims in this situation.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
 




So athletes should live the Socialist Life***

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:02 PM
 




No, it's a compensated choice; there are plenty of them...

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:16 PM
 




it's America, no one says they must play amateur college football, or go to college at all.

Good luck to them if not.

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Then list athletes as employees.


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:25 PM
 

Then I would be ok with outside employment restrictions. However as employees, they would deserve employees benefits such as unemployment, workers compensation, and so on.

If they are truly "STUDENT Athletes", then treat them as other students are treated. Let them have their scholarships with no restrictions on being able to make some money in their free time.


They're listed the way they should be, student-athletes

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:30 PM
 

that are participating in amateur athletics & highly compensated for doing so.

College & college athletics might not be for everyone & that's OK.



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Re: They're listed the way they should be, student-athletes

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:49 PM
 

It's not the universities that will be paying them though. Why should an athlete not be able to make money for Nike or whoever to put their number(probably names after this rule changes) on jerseys simply because they're getting an education? Why should Nike and all of these other companies be able to make money off of the player images because a university is providing an education and feeding the players?

My company pays me a fair wage, and provides me with benefits, but if I decide to make a few extra bucks by having a yard sale I wouldn't expect my company to show up and tell me I'll be fired if I keep doing that because I'm already getting plenty of money from them. The same goes if I want to start an extra side business, or something similar as long as it didn't impact my ability to do my job.

Heck, all of that is also true for other college students, including ones that are on academic scholarships and also getting a free education and place to live. The university isn't going to threaten to pull an academic scholarship if a student gets a job, or earns money in any type of legal way. Let's say that same student has a youtube channel where he plays video games, and he earns revenue due to having a large amount of people who watch his videos(it's very much a real thing these days.) Say he links shirts and other merchandise through his youtube channel to earn even more money(also very much a real thing.) Heck, he may have learned how to edit computers and videos during his time going to class. I very much doubt he's be at any risk of losing his academic scholarship over any of that. Why does playing a sport magically make that not ok?

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Re: They're listed the way they should be, student-athletes


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:56 PM
 

"My company pays me a fair wage, and provides me with benefits, but if I decide to make a few extra bucks by having a yard sale I wouldn't expect my company to show up and tell me I'll be fired if I keep doing that because I'm already getting plenty of money from them. The same goes if I want to start an extra side business, or something similar as long as it didn't impact my ability to do my job."

My company pays me very well, but they have a strict "no moonlighting" policy. My employment contract also has a lot of things that will be considered fireable offenses even though I "have a right" to do them...things like drinking on the job.

Don't like the terms and conditions? Don't sign the contract...

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Re: They're listed the way they should be, student-athletes


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 2:05 PM
 

I don't think drinking on the job, and other similar fireable offenses are the same as the type of restrictions we're discussing here with college athletes. Drinking on the job could impact the ability for an employee to properly complete their job duties, and can also open up the company for suits if injuries occur due to someone being impaired. I don't think you'll find anyone arguing that a football player should be allowed to drink during a game.

Moonlighting is a fair point, and obviously some jobs have certain non-compete clauses and such. However, my job personally doesn't have any sort of moonlighting restrictions. Obviously they wouldn't want me to get a 2nd job that caused me to miss work, or show up exhausted and unable to fully perform my duties, but that's different.

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Re: They're listed the way they should be, student-athletes


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:57 PM
 

Actually, I bet your employer has a policy/rule in your employment contract about moonlighting. Maybe not prohibiting it outright but you gave up a lot of your options there.

However, we already know that other outside companies have "helped students" pick specific schools depending on the "contract". Go ask Louisville. Worse, the exposure by the athletes is from the school... and if the school is Nike, the kid is Under-amour, and Adidas is providing the escorts... well, you can see the problem arising. Worse, you are expecting a 18yo to make those choices. Add the "youtube" item an wow... that can go bad quickly. You can lose one's job/endorsement/education right quick with some videos...


If they want to take their Rivals/247/ESPN recruiting

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:59 PM
 

image & portfolio into the open market have at it, good on them. They clearly know they're highly compensated if they choose the college ranks, they should go test the great beyond, even hire an agent if one will have them?

There's a world of opportunity out there, I think they should go harvest that oyster and the pearls life bears, if College and/or College sports aren't their preference or choice.




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This is what I am talking about.***


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Re: No, you're just saying you'd prefer a rule

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:52 PM
 

There's nothing stopping ANY athlete form making as much money as they possibly can using their name/image/likeness or for getting paid for playing their sport.

There ARE NCAA participation rules that an athlete is free to enter into voluntarily, wherein they agree to abide by the participation rules regarding drug use, PEDs, scholastic achievement requirements, and remuneration.

Don't like the rules, go play football somewhere other than an NCAA school. Nothing's stopping you.

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I don't think you're describing the situation accurately.


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 3:40 PM
 

There is already a prohibition about selling a Clemson Jersey with a player's name on it. I assume that's a function of Clemson having some sort of rights with regard to the jerseys they use. In other words, if Nike wants the Might Fightin' Tigers to have a little Swoosh on their Jersey and a cut of merchandise sales, then putting a name on the jersey is a no no. Could easily do the same thing with numbers. Nike would happily comply. And I'm sure no other company is allowed to replicate the jersey for sale at all.

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Re: I really dislike the idea of college players getting paid.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 11:40 AM
 

Dang Judge - I am 100% in agreement with you. I've gotta ease up on you in the future, well maybe.


Let’s not overreact here.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:03 PM
 

:D

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:02 PM
 

How about allowing paying players with the stipulation that the money be put into a trust and
either the player has to wait until he's no longer eligible for CFB play to get access to get it, or only let them draw out limited amounts?

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That is a very interesting idea.***

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Pay them. They are adults.***


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
 




As an adult, would you like to live by those rules?***


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 6:07 PM
 

I honestly think an idea like this could've worked a few years ago, but the NCAA waited until they pretty much didn't have a choice before acting. The only reason the NCAA is changing the rule now are because states were beginning to pass laws that wouldn't allow them to deny eligibility based on a player earning money for their images. The NCAA went ahead with this change to get ahead of it, and try and maintain any level of making it appear it was their idea as they could, while also trying to maintain some level of control over how it occurs.

It's not really possible to go back now and say they would allow a trust or something like that whenever states were already saying they could earn the money and get paid right away.

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Re: I really dislike the idea of college players getting paid.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:16 PM
 

The only real way I see players getting paid and done well (aka not becoming a professional sports league) is if there is a uniform distribution of all student revenue payments. It goes into a pot and is then distributed to all active "on the roster" D1 athletes mens and women.

Thus the TL16 of the world get paid the same rate/amount as the third string walkon field hockey player.

I personally would like to make graduation as requirement for the payout but I understand if that might be a bit harsh... especially for disadvantaged kids going to a SEC school without a Ford Dealership.


Re: I really dislike the idea of college players getting paid.


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
 

And you were doing so well with that response, right up to the obligatory SEC insult.


Re: I really dislike the idea of college players getting paid.


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:36 PM
 

You are welcome, but we do have to think of the less privileged schools (even in wealthier conferences) that tend to one-and-done some kids on their academic eligibility. So if we make graduation a requirement, then some big money schools might try and lure kids seeking a payout only to turn around and not provide the kids proper academic support.

I guess I should have used Ohio State as the example... but I pulled it from an athens resource.

https://www.onlineathens.com/news/20191129/graduation-rates-low-for-ncaa-playoff-hopefuls



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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
 

Does this take into account leaving school early for the draft? The article is focused on potential playoff teams. Presumably, they are programs with the best talent and who tend to put the most players into the league.


It would be interesting to require graduation to get the money.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:54 PM
 

That would preserve the original intent of student athletics, where the focus was actually on school and not sports.

Big time college athletics are currently making a mockery of higher education. The NCAA could fix it by requiring graduation, but I doubt they have the balls to do it.

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Re: It would be interesting to require graduation to get the money.


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:10 PM
 

I agree, I do not think that the NCAA will have the backbone... because I could see the likes of Texas or O310 State completely sabotaging that idea. But I also think of some coot-like that will bring on a student for a year, not invest in his/her education and then they are out... but that is a risk now.

Then you would have UNC "hypothetical" diplomas as well.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:05 PM
 

Well, leaving early for the draft does not prohibit graduation. For example Deshawn Watson or Tee Higgins ... but then focusing on graduating is not always a priority for some programs


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:32 PM
 

What a wonderful recruiting tool. I as a booster could promise to run an ad with a potential recruits
endorsement at $1,000,000 and it would be legit !!! What a wonderful idea!!!

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Re: I really dislike the idea of college players getting paid.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:31 PM
 

I would rather see Clemson compete in a different division if possible, and be strictly amateur-student-athlete, rather than semi-pro. I would still support and attend just as I always have. Yes revenue would decrease at first, but I believe over time more people and universities would turn back to it as it presents a different product than the NFL, and captures more of the spirit traditionally associated with college football.

The semi-pro version is going to get ugly, whether it's the unfair advantage that schools near large cities will have, class division on teams, or the inability to be regulated. I'm pretty sure I'll lose interest in that. Hope the ladies softball stays pure.

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Agreed 100%.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:59 PM
 

I would fully support Clemson dropping down a division or two to preserve the spirit of true collegiate athletics.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:35 PM
 

I’d prefer no ads on tigernet


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:44 PM
 

It's big metro areas against smaller ones, i.e. the south.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:45 PM
 

It will help BC, Syracuse and maybe Tech.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:52 PM
 

I also like the notion of college amateurism but it simply cannot be maintained because of the revenue explosion that allows coaches and universities to gorge themselves. At the same time, purposely restricting/decreasing revenue is pure fantasy in a capitalistic society like ours. Whatever TV networks, advertisers, boosters and fans are willing to pay is going to be collected. That's just the way it is.

Major college sports are about to evolve into something significantly different than we have today.

The spoils must be shared. Producers must be rewarded.

If this ruins CFB for many of us, so be it. The Golden Age may be over.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:56 PM
 

Really, it will eventually come down to big city against big city. NFL like.


I’m not sure how metropolitan area matters here.***

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:04 PM
 

The NFL isn't really about big cities. Because of revenue sharing and the hard salary cap, small market teams succeed and compete for Super Bowls quite often. MLB and the NBA better fit the "big city" description.

However, your point is made and I share your concern. It could turn schools like Clemson into what Nebraska is now.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:15 PM
 

Yeah, but I could see a European professional soccer model being applied before the American professional sports racket. In some ways, the European model already exists with conferences in place of leagues and then you have the traditional powers keeping the status quo as much as possible.


Free Market

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:54 PM
 

Let those who can get paid be paid. If you do not want to support it, don't.


I’m not supporting it.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:02 PM
 

I won’t be the only one either.

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Re: Free Market


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:03 PM
 

Since they can earn money, no one should object to them kicking in a little to cover tuition, books, lodging, and meals.


I did not have to do that with my scholarship.


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:15 PM
 

It is not a needs based scholarship. It is based on performance.


As a former student-athlete....

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:55 PM
 

I fully support players receiving annual stipends provided those payments are regulated so payments are consistent across the board eliminating the possibility of one school being able to out-bid another because of higher stipend payments.

However, I do not support corporate sponsorships for collegiate athletes.

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Socialism***


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Why do you not support that?***

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They're not professionals...

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 4:01 PM
 

and they're already adequately compensated in addition to having virtually unlimited opportunities to be successful.

Should Matt Cassel have been paid while at Southern Cal? He never started a game but he's now a QB in the NFL.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 6:01 PM
 

This rule change doesn't mean the players will be getting paid though. In fact, their situation with the universities will be exactly the same as it is now. They'll be compensated in the ways you're referring to, and in return they play football.

The rule change simply makes it no longer illegal for them to earn money based on their own image. So yes, if a local sports merchandise store had wanted to pay Matt Cassel a few hundred bucks to sign autographs for a few hours in order to bring more customers into the store then I do think he should have been allowed to do so. I don't see how the universities providing those things for an athlete means it should be illegal for an honest and fair arrangement such as the one I mentioned.

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If someone outside of the University wanted to use his name


Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 8:39 PM
 

or likeness then yes, he should have been paid for that.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 12:56 PM
 

Lets see how they like paying taxes on the money

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:01 PM
 

"Upholding the NCAA’s values, including diversity, inclusion and gender equity." LOL

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I don't like paying taxes, but I really don't like

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:05 PM
 

someone telling me I cannot make money.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:00 PM
 

I knew at some point - we would agree on something. lol - Just kidding.

totally agree with you here. I would rather go back 50 years and have student athletes - not athlete students. where the value of the education and supporting positives were enough.
the slippery slope of large corporations paying athletes to go to certain schools is too great.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:17 PM
 

Agree. I don’t get the point of paying them in college. We have professional sports already. If you want to make a living playing a sport, you know where to go. If you want a scholarship that allows you to get an education while participating in amateur athletics, go to college. College doesn’t exist as a farm system for professional sports. Dabo is a professional as is DRad and others in the Athletic Department. They chose a profession and have worked many years climbing the ladder. They can be fired tomorrow if performance is poor, like any professional. You can’t fire college athletes so don’t pay them.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 1:19 PM
 

Just wait until signing commitment letters becomes signing contracts with monetary penalties for de-committing and transferring.

Unfortunately, I feel the only winners here will be the agents that will be lining up to represent the high profile athletes.


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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 2:29 PM
 

Just wait til they mandate that women should make up at least a third (or whatever percentage) of every men's team. Sure it sounds ridiculous


Exactly right. If people think others are exploiting these

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 3:44 PM
 

players' NIL, they can do what they can to limit it (a la not allow sales of Clemson Jersey's with TL's number).

I do think the universities should have seen these big dollars coming and worked with the NCAA to institute some sort of required portion of the athletic funds to go to academic expenses (new buildings, professors' salaries, etc). One, because it would have been a better use of the money (ie, coaches who make $1M a year would not find a new profession if they only made $500k per year) and it would better align with the goal of college athletics. Unfortunately, that ship seems to have sailed.

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I have supported a monthly stipend for

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 4:37 PM
 

incidentals paid to student athletes, as I received the same as part of my Army ROTC Scholarship at Clemson.

My problem with the other is the possible ill-will it could create among the athletes with a select few receiving endorsement fees, etc., while the majority wouldn't. Hence, I also believe it would be a slippery slope, perhaps, eventually leading to the complete professionalization of collegiate sports.

Then again, I'm an old school type that has never liked the idea of an athlete leaving early for the draft nor the overhype of the collegiate recruiting process.

Money...that's what has led to most of what we see and will see...money.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2020, 8:49 PM
 

I'm sorry, I just don't understand, 52 years ago when I went to college my parents had to borrow money to send me. Now you are telling me if I am fortunate enough to wear a jocky strap or a sports bra I'm going to get paid. Go figure!!!!

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