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I know this is old news please read and help understand this. In 2014 USC vs Clemson


Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:41 PM
 

Mid first quarter Clemson does an unexpected offside kick. We get it. This is DW4 game when he best the coots on one leg. So we successfully get the onside kick.

-The ball traveled over ten yards in the air.
-We catch the ball in the air.

It looked as though we got it!

But refs discuss and their explanation was that since the ball never hit the ground USC had to have an unimpeded opportunity to catch the ball.

Then I youtube the alabama onside kick in the national championship game and it was identical. But we all know how that went. Someone please watch both and explain this to me. I'm pissed off all over again.

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Re: I know this is old news please read and help understand this. In 2014 USC vs Clemson


Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:41 PM
 

Onside kick*

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:43 PM
 

UNC tried the "offside kick" in last year's ACC Championship game!!!

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:43 PM
 

Coots needed help , Bama didn't.

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No Clemson player close enough to the ball for there to be

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:43 PM
 

an unimpeded catch in the bama game

Or some shid like that


Re: No Clemson player close enough to the ball for there to be


Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:46 PM
 

Even though we won this game I can't watch anymore. Sick to.my stomach there was a clemson guy within 5 yards of the bama guy who caught it.

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Yeah but that way was behind the bama player

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:49 PM
 

its not like he was in position to catch the ball.

Dabo argued this last yr that we ran the same play against S Car.


Re: Yeah but that way was behind the bama player


Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:51 PM
 

Ok. Appreciate the explanation. I didn't have the energy to get on Tnet after the loss and didn't cut my tv on for 2 weeks. So I missed out on the interviews postgame.

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If you watch the S Car onside kick you'll see there is a pla

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:54 PM
 

yer directly under the ball to catch it. he has to have an unimpeded opportunity to catch the ball b/c it was kicked into the air and not bounced on the ground as a traditional onside would be.

In the bama game we didn't have guy in position to make that catch.

sucks


We didn't have a player in the area***

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:47 PM
 




Re: We didn't have a player in the area***


Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:48 PM
 

I hope we beat the dog pis out of them this weekend.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 4:50 PM
 



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Posted: Nov 22, 2016 1:44 PM
 

In the Carolina game,they called for a fair catch. In the national championship game we did not. That was the difference


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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 5:05 PM
 

If you watch the usuck player called for a fair catch. since it did not hit the ground we had to give him a chance to catch it.

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If the ball doesn't bounce (touch the ground) then you must

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 5:17 PM
 

... then you must give the opposing player a chance to catch it cleanly before you can touch the ball or the player.

Most on-side attempts are kicked in such a way that they bounce almost immediately off the kicking tee. At that point they become a free ball.

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The coot got a hand up to signal fair catch and

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 5:35 PM
 

We didn't give coot a chance to catch...we didn't have a player in the area to the to do the same on the bama kick.....when this happened in the natty, I thought the same-why-? about the 2014 coot game and found it on YouTube - u can see the coot did get a hand up for the fair catch

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Re: The coot got a hand up to signal fair catch and

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 9:10 PM
 

True ... if it's just a straight (but, short) pooch kick, then the opposing player has the right to make a clean catch before getting hit ... even if they don't signal fair catch, you can't interfere with the player or the ball until he makes an effort to catch it.

But, if the ball carroms off the ground high into the air, it's an immediate free ball and anything goes ... apparently even "targeting" if the UNC on-sides kick controversy is an example.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 9:23 PM
 

Actually if it only bounces once you can still call a fair catch.

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Link?***

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Posted: Nov 22, 2016 1:32 PM
 



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Posted: Nov 22, 2016 2:40 PM
 

Rule 6 Section 4 Article 1 paragraph f

ARTICLE 1. a. A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines
attempting to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free
kick or a scrimmage kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an
unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick (A.R. 6-3-1-III, A.R. 6-4-1-V,
VI and IX).

f. During a free kick a player of the receiving team in position to receive
the ball has the same kick-catch and fair-catch protection whether the
ball is kicked directly off the tee or is immediately driven to the ground,
strikes the ground once and goes into the air in the manner of the ball
kicked directly off the tee.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2016 3:16 PM
 

that one. I have to admit I did not know that part of the rule. Oh, the Humanity!

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