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Interesting. Does a TB vaccine provide some immunity?
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Interesting. Does a TB vaccine provide some immunity?


Apr 8, 2020, 9:37 PM

Might be onto something here. Bigly.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/06/has-the-key-to-a-coronoavirus-vaccine-been-staring-us-in-the-face-for-a-century?utm_source=Global+Health+NOW+Main+List&utm_campaign=ded844b2d9-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_07_01_07&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8d0d062dbd-ded844b2d9-2890801

https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2020-04/could-tb-vaccine-help



Found this website with a global map showing tb vaccine countries. The rona seems to be running rampant in countries with no TB vaccine or very few requirements, and running less rampant in countries where it's required.

http://www.bcgatlas.org/



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Looks promising


Apr 8, 2020, 9:59 PM

Saw where I think it wasUAB medical school was asking for folks that had gotten the vaccine to register so they could track them compared to the gen pop

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Explains a lot of discrepancies.


Apr 8, 2020, 10:10 PM

It explains Portugal versus Spain. Even Ecuador has more cases per capita and they have the worst outbreak in South America. Per population.

Seems to be consistently much worse in countries without the universal tb vaccine requirement.

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Tozzie Bozborne?***


Apr 8, 2020, 10:00 PM



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Yeah there have been a few studies in this in the


Apr 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

Past couple weeks that have come to light. It’s not just TB, they’re noticing a pattern for immunizations in general.

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Doesn't the TB vaccine need to be administered yearly?


Apr 9, 2020, 9:16 AM

I've worked in places that required them, and if you didn't get it done every year, they didn't let you work.

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Could it be that countries where TB vaccines are common


Apr 9, 2020, 9:31 AM

are just healthier countries in general? Better hygiene, better infrastructure, better healthcare, etc?

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ROH


Re: Could it be that countries where TB vaccines are common


Apr 9, 2020, 9:47 AM

Quite the opposite actually

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I guess that actually makes sense and also why we


Apr 9, 2020, 10:12 AM

just do TB tests and not vaccines around here. I did not think that one through.

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ROH


If you look at the map, the most advanced countries, and


Apr 9, 2020, 10:40 AM

economies, generally don't require the vaccine, or have stopped requiring it long ago.

One issue is under reporting, and some of these poorer countries that require the vaccine may not be reporting cases sufficiently. But over time it's appearing to be a clear trend the TB vaccine countries don't have this impacting them nearly as bad as it is in countries that never used the vaccine, like us/Italy/Spain/England/France/etc. Then you have Portugal with the least deaths per population and it's right beside Spain. Then in South America you have Ecuador with the worst outbreak per population, and it's the only state in South America that doesn't require the vaccine. Then you have Germany with many cases, but still lower than it should be, and that's because half of Germany, the former East Germany, go the vaccine, while West Germany didn't. Then you have India with a massive population reporting much less cases and deaths than the US.

The map really paints a decent picture that the vaccine appears to help a lot.

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Is that the vaccine us boomers got and left the scar?


Apr 9, 2020, 10:44 AM

I assume it does not last forever.

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I heard it leaves a scar, but smallpox also left a scar too


Apr 9, 2020, 10:48 AM

So not sure. Don't think TB was ever given in the US as a standard vaccine. Smallpox was though.

As a bicentennial baby I was one of the first to NOT receive a smallpox vaccine. They stopped doing them around the time I was born. Both parents got them.

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All my kids have gotten it...


Apr 9, 2020, 12:46 PM

as have all my family members. But that could have been the pediatrician's personal preference. We all got it because my nephew in Atlanta had a pediatrician that was worried about the illness coming back due to the number of people who refuse to vaccinate.

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Re: Is that the vaccine us boomers got and left the scar?


Apr 9, 2020, 10:57 AM [ in reply to Is that the vaccine us boomers got and left the scar? ]

I think that was polio

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We did a sugar cube for polio iirc


Apr 9, 2020, 10:58 AM

but I may not rc

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Sister of Papa G says the shot was for polio then we got a


Apr 9, 2020, 12:21 PM

booster via sugar cube.

Papa G wrong again. Or half right.

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I think that's what I had as well.***


Apr 9, 2020, 12:45 PM



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Smallpox vaccine left a scar.


Apr 9, 2020, 12:44 PM [ in reply to Re: Is that the vaccine us boomers got and left the scar? ]

I have one on my left arm.

(not mine..I'm not this orange)



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Would make sense to explain why kids aren't as affected


Apr 9, 2020, 10:40 AM

They are immunized early and get a booster in the teen years. I had one a few years ago when my nephew was born and my wife just got another one since she's a speech therapist.

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