|
Replies: 57
| visibility 1
|
Orange Blooded [3740]
TigerPulse: 95%
Posts: 4195
Joined: 10/11/12
|
|
|
|
 |
110%er [8866]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5339
Joined: 11/17/14
|
Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell
Jun 15, 2016, 12:01 PM
|
|
By the time they got to Clemson Google Clemson had the academic stats for that school in Columbia. This may be a new focus for SCar but Dabo has been achieving this from the beginning. Quality of student, academics, athlete
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [38422]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33199
Joined: 7/28/11
|
Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell
Jun 15, 2016, 12:11 PM
|
|
So Boom is whispering "Forget-Me-Nots" into the ears of his visiting prospect's ears ?
Does that smack of desperation to anyone but I ? The guy sounds like he already knows he's lost the fight , before he's even fielded a team in Columbia .
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [38422]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33199
Joined: 7/28/11
|
Their Ears
Jun 15, 2016, 12:13 PM
|
|
Do not have ears .
My mostake wash not en prufreeding it 1irst.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell
Jun 15, 2016, 12:15 PM
[ in reply to Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell ] |
|
Recruiting in general is pretty desperate and sad when you think about it.
I can't imagine how coaches really enjoy having to coddle a bunch of high school kids.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [24686]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 42349
Joined: 7/31/10
|
Yea, particularly when you're losing it.... Winning, naw....***
Jun 15, 2016, 12:19 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16120]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 26427
Joined: 11/18/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: Speaking of desperate and sad...look who's back on a Tiger
Jun 15, 2016, 12:58 PM
|
|
coots gonna coot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23100]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19803
Joined: 1/15/11
|
he's lost the fight , before he's even fielded a team -TRUE
Jun 15, 2016, 12:17 PM
[ in reply to Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell ] |
|
He's begging real talent and accepting commitments from less than stellar talent too early for someone that would he think he has a chance.
PS, Don't tell the Coots.They are convinced that they are all Diamonds in the rough and that Chump has the talent to coach em up.He couldn't coach 4-5 star talent at Florida and made the 4-5 star heavy Auburn D worse. The fanbase is happy about the Steele hire. That says all you need to know about Chump.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23100]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19803
Joined: 1/15/11
|
Mama went to Clemson, so she knows about the difference
Jun 15, 2016, 12:03 PM
|
|
about the academics at the 2 schools. There's a few "stories" out there that he will commit Friday and there will be a Meltdown In Coot Town.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105574]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 44178
Joined: 12/22/08
|
I hate to be "that guy" claiming inside sources, but
Jun 15, 2016, 12:07 PM
|
|
 .
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [25885]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 20597
Joined: 7/31/07
|
Re: I hate to be "that guy" claiming inside sources, but
Jun 15, 2016, 12:27 PM
|
|
I see jock itch is back.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64972]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33161
Joined: 12/3/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105574]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 44178
Joined: 12/22/08
|
You don't say?***
Jun 15, 2016, 12:41 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [108390]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 64974
Joined: 2/25/06
|
and the circle of its life is now complete.***
Jun 15, 2016, 2:34 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: and the circle of its life is now complete.******
Jun 15, 2016, 2:38 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3820]
TigerPulse: 82%
Posts: 4395
Joined: 12/24/09
|
the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 12:34 PM
|
|
it's all BS, no truth,
all hype, no fact,
all promises, only to be broken,
all fans, veils, and cleavage, with a dagger in the other hand,
I have no earthly idea how they get anyone in their right mind to go to that school.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 12:40 PM
|
|
Because it's a pretty fun place.
You have to remember you're coming from years of hatred toward USC.
Most kids picking a college are looking at it objectively.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105574]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 44178
Joined: 12/22/08
|
If they look at it objectively
Jun 15, 2016, 12:42 PM
|
|
then we'll win the recruiting battle. Every. Single. Time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16120]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 26427
Joined: 11/18/03
|
they prefer the smell of urine?***
Jun 15, 2016, 12:50 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: they prefer the smell of urine?***
Jun 15, 2016, 12:58 PM
|
|
They enjoy the taste of doo doo ice?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16120]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 26427
Joined: 11/18/03
|
they don't know the difference down there...they just call
Jun 15, 2016, 3:57 PM
|
|
it ice
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:09 PM
|
|
Isn't it kind of sad that the "selling point" you came up with has nothing to do with the university itself?
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:11 PM
|
|
Guess we just have to agree to disagree on this one because it seems pretty obvious location has something to do with the university.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:13 PM
|
|
If you're selling location over your sport of choice/academics you've already lost the battle.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:16 PM
|
|
Just depends on the person.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:19 PM
|
|
Objectively, I'm sure location factors heavily into the decision making process of which institution of higher learning to attend....
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:35 PM
|
|
I'm glad we agree.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:36 PM
|
|
I'm glad you understand sarcasm. I guess I expected too much from a coot....
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 1:39 PM
|
|
Wait you don't think location matters when picking a college?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105574]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 44178
Joined: 12/22/08
|
Location matters. The point is that USuCk has to
Jun 15, 2016, 1:47 PM
|
|
sell location first and all else comes a very distant second. Location is even iffy because let's face it, plenty of schools are in actual cities. How does Columbia rank as far as size of city in the country? Heck, let's just look in the southeast. Oh and never mind the stadium is off campus and in the middle of an industrial park. Never mind the episode of gangland that took place in Columbia. Also, have fun pimping out that one conference championship banner from way back when in the ACC along with an empty trophy case.
Meanwhile, Clemson can sell academics and football success first. With the benefit of being a college football town.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5093]
TigerPulse: 42%
Posts: 17070
Joined: 7/19/05
|
Re: Location matters. The point is that USuCk has to
Jun 15, 2016, 2:00 PM
|
|
Up until two years ago we could sell football successs.
Admittedly it is hard right now.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105574]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 44178
Joined: 12/22/08
|
Football success? You still don't get it.
Jun 15, 2016, 2:16 PM
|
|
When you could sell football success, how many BCS games have you been a part of? How many conference championships have you won? How many times have you played for a national championship? You had a couple nice seasons, but don't confuse that with football success for the program.
Message was edited by: GWPTiger®
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [139870]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33843
Joined: 12/5/10
|
Did you forget that SCU made it to the SEC Championship
Jun 15, 2016, 2:28 PM
|
|
game in 2010?
Here's the box score, in case you did.
AUB: 21 07 14 14 56
SCU: 07 07 00 03 17
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [139870]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33843
Joined: 12/5/10
|
^ Professional looking box score.***
Jun 15, 2016, 2:31 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16120]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 26427
Joined: 11/18/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [38422]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33199
Joined: 7/28/11
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16120]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 26427
Joined: 11/18/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16120]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 26427
Joined: 11/18/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105574]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 44178
Joined: 12/22/08
|
Re: Only a 3rd rate team would consider a 2nd rate bowl an
Jun 15, 2016, 9:26 PM
|
|
 .
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [49613]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 30357
Joined: 12/10/98
|
I hate being coniliatory, but there are some good reasons
Jun 15, 2016, 2:25 PM
[ in reply to Re: the operative word is "SELL".... ] |
|
Columbia is, for lack of a better word, more urban than Clemson. Some kids need the feel of a city.
A student who isn't as sure of his skills, but wants to play in big-time stadiums against perennial powers would give the Capons a long look. Honestly, with a couple of exceptions, our conference foes don't boast the atmosphere and energy of SEC opponents. Obviously, if you come play for Clemson, you'll have that intensity all season ... but kids who may not be good enough to crack the two-deep at Clemson can still find a home with the Capons. So, they can play more and bask in that "real football" atmosphere as they get their rear ends handed to them.
Connections: At this point a kid who signs with the Capons is effectively saying he doesn't see a future in pro ball. So ... he can build connections for when he goes home. Sure the diploma won't mean as much and yes, he may lie awake nights wondering how much better his life could have been. But still he'll have a diploma.
So, there are indeed reasons for a player to consider the Capons. They're just not good reasons ... but then, they probably aren't good players, either.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: I hate being coniliatory, but there are some good reasons***
Jun 15, 2016, 2:39 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10853]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7640
Joined: 1/6/04
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2332]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3530
Joined: 5/7/03
|
Re: the operative word is "SELL"....
Jun 15, 2016, 9:23 PM
[ in reply to Re: the operative word is "SELL".... ] |
|
I attended USCe as a grad. student. The campus outside of the historic Horseshoe is scattered and not all that different from downtown buildings. To be frank it lacks character compared to many other institutions.
WBS compared to Death Valley is not anywhere close! USC has several excellent programs, but Clemson is a top 20 public university! When you add Dabo's record academically over his tenure Clemson will be hard to beat! Clemson sells itself!
Go Tigers!
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10608]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9247
Joined: 12/29/06
|
The word "patronizing" seems to come to mind...I'll bet
Jun 15, 2016, 12:41 PM
|
|
OrTre's mom knows that is what it is and is probably getting a little tired of it. I feel totally confident that Dabo, Jeff Scoot, and the rest of the staff can make them very comfortable with our academics, culture, football program, etc. without it coming across as patronizing.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [67693]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 115413
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: Poor Muschamp
Jun 15, 2016, 12:43 PM
|
|
His sales pitch is the coot track record and his track record. Talk about nothing to work with. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell
Jun 15, 2016, 12:49 PM
|
|
"OrTre was the last to leave and he whispered to OrTre, ‘I need you.’"
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18539]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14857
Joined: 12/11/04
|
Muschamp after Smith commits to Clemson.***
Jun 15, 2016, 12:53 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [79983]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 23542
Joined: 8/21/06
|
The writer didn't seem to know the recruit's name. He called
Jun 15, 2016, 1:19 PM
|
|
him both Shi and Ortre.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: The writer didn't seem to know the recruit's name. He called
Jun 15, 2016, 1:30 PM
|
|
coots gonna coot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3788]
TigerPulse: 99%
Posts: 9880
Joined: 11/2/08
|
Starting to sound kind of desperate.***
Jun 15, 2016, 1:30 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [20518]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11667
Joined: 10/15/02
|
Re: Muschamp giving OrTre Smith and his mom the hard sell
Jun 15, 2016, 1:58 PM
|
|
I'll go ahead and admit it, I'm not personally sold this kid is a difference-maker.
He could be another Mike Williams, I suppose, but he doesn't seem as fluid or smooth, and while he's got size and plenty of strength I don't see the body control either. I don't see that whoa-making acceleration off the line you see in a guy like Deon Cain or Cornell Powell. He definitely isn't in Hunter Renfrow's or Ray Ray McCloud's zip code when it comes to suddenness into his breaks.
He looks like a pretty solid, very large, possession-type receiver to my eyes. Obviously Dabo is the expert when it comes to evaluating wide receivers and I would not presume to argue with him - if he likes a kid, there's usually a reason - but usually you can see the obvious telltales in the tape and I'll admit I haven't seen them yet with Ortre.
Seems more like Shadell Bell than anybody else, sort of a big WR/TE tweener. I suppose he could grow into another Jared Cook or Brandon Ford and maybe that's the long-term plan with him.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23100]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19803
Joined: 1/15/11
|
Shadell Bell ,don't count him out.
Jun 15, 2016, 2:21 PM
|
|
He seemed to do good enough in practice to avoid the move to safety and keep Bryan Edwards from getting an offer as WR.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [40872]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 42929
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Mustcoot whispers in his ear, "I need you"
Jun 15, 2016, 7:47 PM
|
|
Did he follow up with a kiss and b's and j's?
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6662]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9535
Joined: 1/16/99
|
Re: Mustcoot whispers in his ear, "I need you"
Jun 15, 2016, 7:51 PM
|
|
Sounds kind of creep and desperate. "I need you"???? Really? Wow.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 57
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
