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Rock Defender [53]
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I don't see our RB's getting a lot of carries vs. UGA
Aug 8, 2014, 11:53 AM
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I know Dabo/Morris like to establish the run in games, but I think UGA's secondary is their weakest link and should be exploited repeatedly. That tells me that we will air it out all day long as long as UGA can't stop it. We are too strong thru the air, so I expect to see something like 70/30 pass/run ratio in the UGA game. I think Dabo/Morris prefer it closer to the 50/50 ratio, so we will see.
So we will probably run 90 plays, so that means we might have less than 30 rushing plays IMO. Can't wait.
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you might be right, but i tend to believe that if the
Aug 8, 2014, 11:56 AM
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ratio is 7-3 pass to run, we're losing badly.
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Have we had a single game under Morris that was 70-30? I
Aug 9, 2014, 11:00 AM
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don't think we have.
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Re: Have we had a single game under Morris that was 70-30? I
Aug 9, 2014, 11:16 AM
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vs wvu in the ob was close.
47 pass .635
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even the fswho debacle was
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just don't see dabo/morris going into any game planning to throw it 60+ times by design, but who knows...
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First half only... then run the clock to protect the lead.***
Aug 8, 2014, 11:59 AM
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Personally, I appreciate a man with confidence.***
Aug 9, 2014, 11:01 AM
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SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 12:05 PM
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second half pts......the worst GA defense has 10x the talent. 90 plays? Morris only managed 76 vs GA last season.....at home....with a experienced offense. wow.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 12:07 PM
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And you STILL lost. Wow.
Are you 15? Because you look at football the way I did when I was 15.
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 12:15 PM
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i didn't stutter....14 second half pts. most juveniles resort to verbal attacks when they have no argument. you fit the bill.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 12:17 PM
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I didn't attack you by pointing out that you use the most superficial and meaningless data to make yourself feel better about the upcoming game.
Carry on. You seem to REALLY believe that what the backups did against SC State means anything as it pertains to the 2014 season.
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 12:19 PM
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I guess we should have run up the score and embarrassed an I. State school to make superdawg happy.
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 12:19 PM
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He is the same moron who thought their record in Home openers was impressive. I posted who thsoe games were against and he disappeared like a fart in the wind.
Superdawg is a coward and a troll.
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2nd half drives Clemson vs Ugay 2013
Aug 8, 2014, 12:34 PM
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Clemson: TD, FG, TD, Punt, end of game on drive
UGA: Punt, TD, Turnover on Downs, fumble, Punt,Punt, TD against prevent with 2 mins left down 10
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I'm gonna call DSS on y'all for child abuse..........***
Aug 9, 2014, 11:03 AM
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Actually
Aug 8, 2014, 1:44 PM
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Cole Stoudt lead one drive in the second half, an 8 play 63 yard touchdown drive. In the second quarter he lead two drives of 88 and 73 yards both resulting in touchdowns. The rest of the game was the third string and a walk-on playing qb who combined for 8 pass attempts. Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument though.
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Botches be botches.... +1.***
Aug 8, 2014, 1:48 PM
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 2:48 PM
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Nice try but not right. Stoudt played QB in a total of three possessions in that game and thru for a TD in each drive. I in 2nd qtr, 1 in 3rd qtr and 1 in 4th qtr.
Howard rushed for one TD.
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Re: LOL, because that's a good barometer.***
Aug 8, 2014, 12:10 PM
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That had to be a troll.
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Re: SCSt held basically the same projected offense to 14
Aug 8, 2014, 2:04 PM
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faking? we too soft!
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That OL last year certainly was, especially around the waist***
Aug 8, 2014, 2:07 PM
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I have a hard time believing that will be the plan going in.
Aug 8, 2014, 12:06 PM
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Hanging your hat on a QB making his first ever start in a hostile environment like that with a bunch of new WRs might be a little ambitious.
However, if we get a series or two under Cole's belt and him and the WRs are comfortable and performing well, and it's clear there's a weakness in UGAs secondary, i could definitely seeing us going to that more.
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I don't know - I"m thinking that we better be able......
Aug 8, 2014, 12:14 PM
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to run the ball and mix up our plays - am not confident of Stoudt's abilities yet until we see him in action - for this to be his first start it's going to be tough - we can't just rely on the pass IMO.
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They said that last year and Hot Rod tore them up***
Aug 8, 2014, 12:55 PM
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I called for 130. Hr sure fooled me.
Aug 8, 2014, 3:37 PM
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He had 133.
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The talk of UGA's secondary being weak .......
Aug 8, 2014, 1:01 PM
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May just be a tad overblown. Did they lose three guys that played a role last year? Yes, they did, but focusing on who is gone is silly. The focus should be on the guys that will actually play in the game, and there's some real talent there. It's not like UGA is going to throw a bunch of scrubs out there.
A common mantra on T-Net is "We too deep!". And I agree. Clemson has been on a very good stretch of recruiting that has built a roster filled with talented players. That being said, UGA is in the same boat. UGA, along with Clemson, is one of the programs that year in and year out brings in a ton of talented prospects.
Now I will concede that some of the guys in the secondary that will see PT won't have much, if any, experience, but to think opposing offenses will be able to pass at will on them is a little naive especially considering the opposing offense in game one is coming up to bat with many new faces in the starting line up too.
The one thing I do know is that if either offense loses it's balanced play-calling (no matter the reason) it will not bode well for them.
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Actually, i have to agree with this... Still, Clemson by 8+.***
Aug 8, 2014, 1:06 PM
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Re: The talk of UGA's secondary being weak .......
Aug 8, 2014, 1:47 PM
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I guess I should clarify that and say "relatively speaking, UGA's secondary is weak". Looking at their DLine - pretty darn awesome IMO. Their O is going to be impressive again with arguably the best RB in the nation. I don't know enough about their ST's so I discounted them. No - I pretty much stick with their secondary being their weak spot. And I still maintain that our passing game is going to be our strength (unless the D becomes what we all believe it will be). So anyway - I tend to want to attack an opponent's weakness rather than try to negate their strength. Kinda like the old saying 'take what they give you'. They may be reloading in the secondary, and have good talent, but it not experienced - and that will cost them.
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Re: The talk of UGA's secondary being weak .......
Aug 8, 2014, 2:18 PM
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> I guess I should clarify that and say "relatively
> speaking, UGA's secondary is weak".
Fair enough
> Looking at their
> DLine - pretty darn awesome IMO.
The DL should be pretty good, but the strength of UGA's defense is the LB corps. All four LB starters are NFL material, and it will be exciting to see what the new scheme does for them.
> Their O is going to
> be impressive again with arguably the best RB in the
> nation.
Agreed
> I don't know enough about their ST's so I
> discounted them.
Special teams were a real weakness last year. Zero return game to speak of, botched punts galore, and weak coverage at times. This year should be different with a new philosophy coming in with the new D staff. Mike Ekeler is taking over a lot of the ST duties, and he's got a wildman persona about him that fits right in with ST coaching. UGA hasn't had aggressive ST units for quite some time, so it should be a nice change.
> No - I pretty much stick with their
> secondary being their weak spot. And I still
> maintain that our passing game is going to be our
> strength (unless the D becomes what we all believe it
> will be). So anyway - I tend to want to attack an
> opponent's weakness rather than try to negate their
> strength. Kinda like the old saying 'take what they
> give you'. They may be reloading in the secondary,
> and have good talent, but it not experienced - and
> that will cost them.
I do agree that the projected weakest link to the UGA D will be the secondary. There are lots of questions still to be answered and truly they can only be answered with real games. I also think that anointing Clemson's passing game as a strength may be a touch too much too early. New starters at QB and the two WR spots may seem to be good replacements, but they have yet to prove that on the field. Clemson's strength is their attacking defense IMO.
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Yep,
Aug 8, 2014, 3:41 PM
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for Clemson to 'pass at will,' we'd have to have a QB that could properly read a defense and check down to somebody that can catch a football. We'd also need a speedy receiver.
How could anyone believe Clemson has the right combination of those?
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Re: Yep,
Aug 8, 2014, 4:22 PM
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Here's the converse to that argument:
To put up a competent defensive effort in the secondary uga would have to have athletes capable of making plays on the ball, that are fast enough to cover WRs, and a defensive scheme that puts them in the right position to make this plays.
No way UGA could have that right?
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Very true
Aug 8, 2014, 4:27 PM
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Three starters return in UGA's secondary, so that will certainly help the experience level some.
Isn't Clemson starting two inexperienced corners too?
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Re: Very true
Aug 8, 2014, 6:23 PM
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crickets..........
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Re: Very true
Aug 9, 2014, 3:07 PM
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Says the dude who runs and hide every time someone calls him out for his stupid reasoning tactics.
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No idea yet, there's a number of possibilities
Aug 9, 2014, 2:24 AM
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Some with experience, some with only a redshirt year.
The safeties will be fine, and I like our DL and LBs a whole lot more than yours, so hopefully they'll be protected.
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Re: No idea yet, there's a number of possibilities
Aug 9, 2014, 2:40 PM
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> and I like our DL and LBs
> a whole lot more than yours,
Both front sevens will be strong. Because the teams run different defensive systems, a straight up DL to DL or LB to LB comparison isn't truly an apples to apples type deal. I believe that both teams have VERY talented players across the front that really fit what they are trying to accomplish.
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So true....
Aug 9, 2014, 3:45 PM
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UGA has a weak secondary due to inexperience but our best CB has yet to play a snap....double standard anyone?
They will be the 2nd most talented team we play (FSU) and the gap isn't that wide.
Still, I expect a W in Athens.
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Bubble screens all nite baby! Signed, Rob Spence
Aug 8, 2014, 7:04 PM
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HTH
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Re: I don't see our RB's getting a lot of carries vs. UGA
Aug 8, 2014, 10:18 PM
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Well i can see us trying to establish the run more. Reason being is that didn't Morris meet with Malzahn over the summer to get pointers on running the ball better in the Spread. I can see us leaning on the run early on to keep UGA honest. c
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If we run 90 plays
Aug 9, 2014, 9:02 AM
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they will be taking a lot of SEC time-outs LSU did
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Get ready for the Play Action***
Aug 9, 2014, 11:25 AM
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God I hope you are wrong
Aug 9, 2014, 3:43 PM
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If we can't run the ball, this will be an ugly game for us. We MUST lean on our OL and RB early and often....if for no other reason than to win the game with our defense. Putting our D in bad spots or on the field for 45 minutes will not equal a win. I hope the staff is able to make this adjustment. We will see.
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