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110%er [7148]
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I don't have a huge problem with SC being ranked
Jan 7, 2014, 4:52 PM
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above us seeing that they beat us. But with the losses they had? Number 4?
you have got to be kidding.... I think 8 is about right for us. I'd give SC the benefit of the doubt as a 7...
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Think about that for a second
Jan 7, 2014, 4:53 PM
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You're shocked ("You've got to be kidding") that they're ranked 3 spots higher than you think they should be?
Seems to be a mighty fine hair to be splitting.
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Re: Think about that for a second
Jan 7, 2014, 4:57 PM
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not for 5,6&7
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Sure,
Jan 7, 2014, 5:01 PM
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Of course it's up for debate.
But I find it odd that there would be any huffing and puffing over 3 spots. Especially when one of those teams got beat by the gamecocks.
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ps- I think Bama would kick their a$$***
Jan 7, 2014, 5:14 PM
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I have a huge problem with it. Because the wouldn't be
Jan 7, 2014, 5:19 PM
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if we had taken care of business. They wouldn't even be in the top 10.
We are a much better team, but a goodly portion of our team had to 'spas out' and the hand the ball to them every chance they got.
I hope they get some mental coaching before next Thanksgiving.
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Re: My thoughts exactly.
Jan 7, 2014, 5:34 PM
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Our guys just played too sloppy in that game with too many turnovers. They wouldn't be in the top 10 if they didn't beat us.
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Do you think you are much better than Tennessee
Jan 7, 2014, 5:49 PM
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since they beat you ?
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Yes, we have an objective measure
Jan 7, 2014, 5:51 PM
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to show we were better and the loss was an outlier.
We finished the season ranked significantly higher than they did.
Clemson doesn't have anything objective to argue they are better.
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LOL
Jan 7, 2014, 5:53 PM
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Question for you Toogie...
Jan 7, 2014, 5:53 PM
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If you have 6 turnovers against us, do you think you still win? Or do you think you get blown completely out of the stadium?
An outlier? LOL.
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If you had forced 6 turnovers you would have been the
Jan 7, 2014, 6:01 PM
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better team, but you didn't because you weren't the best team.
Imagine if you flipped the turnover battle with Ohio State, they would have own the orange bowl.
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Wow Tooglet. Can you get any more lame?
Jan 7, 2014, 8:52 PM
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You didn't force 6 turnovers. You forced 1. Two of our turnovers were fumbled punts, where we completely lost a possession. You scored, what, 21 points off turnovers?
Ohio State had 4 turnovers and Clemson had 2 turnovers. Each team scored 7 points off turnovers. The better team won because they were better, not because they were gift-wrapped 21 points off turnovers.
Not even a bonehead like you can be that dumb, right? ..Right??
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Re: Yes, we have an objective measure
Jan 7, 2014, 9:03 PM
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You cannot have it both ways...
If the better team always wins, the Tenn is better than you.
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110%er [5093]
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Who said the best team always wins?
Jan 7, 2014, 9:05 PM
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Clearly they don't.
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UT's win against you was just as "objective" as yours
Jan 7, 2014, 9:07 PM
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against us, perhaps even more so. They didn't need 21 points off unforced turnovers.
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110%er [5093]
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How far ahead of us in the polls
Jan 7, 2014, 9:11 PM
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is Clemson?
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Expert [1376]
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Toogie, you do understand that "polls" are not objective.
Jan 7, 2014, 9:13 PM
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Right?
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I wish I could bump your posts from 5 years ago
Jan 7, 2014, 9:15 PM
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when you were ranting about the beauty of the polls and how Clemson must be better than Carolina regardless of the loss to Carolina.
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LOL. What are you mumbling about??
Jan 7, 2014, 9:18 PM
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You beat Clemson primarily because we gave you 21 points off turnovers. I'm not saying UT is better than you, but UT beat you without all that help. But you tell me, how is one angle objective and the other is not? Why are you talking about 5 years ago and what does that even mean?
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Re: Who said the best team always wins?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:19 PM
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That was clear this year. You "beat" us, when we were clearly the better team. LOL
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Re: Who said the best team always wins?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:54 PM
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> That was clear this year. You "beat" us, when we
> were clearly the better team. LOL
Didn't you know............you've been the better team for 5 straight years now. Just ask your coach.
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Re: How can you say USCjr is better than Mizzou who played
Jan 7, 2014, 6:04 PM
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As opposed to South Carolina who played without their star QB for only 3/4's of the game?
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Re: How can you say USCjr is better than Mizzou who played
Jan 7, 2014, 6:07 PM
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Did Shaw effect the outcome of the game? No need to respond.
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with SC being ranked
Jan 7, 2014, 5:45 PM
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It's great to see both teams in the Top Ten at the end of the year.
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with SC being ranked
Jan 7, 2014, 5:58 PM
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We do need to move on from the turnover excuse...Good teams force turnovers. Ball strips and interceptions are players making plays and 5 out of the 6 we had were just that.
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with SC being ranked
Jan 7, 2014, 9:00 PM
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no they weren't ; 2 muffed punts. Don't be a dumbas$
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with SC being ranked
Jan 7, 2014, 10:03 PM
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Exactly. 2 muffed punts. Obviously Clemson needs to get better at catching punts. Good teams can perform simple tasks like not muffing punts.
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with SC being ranked
Jan 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
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> Exactly. 2 muffed punts. Obviously Clemson needs to
> get better at catching punts. Good teams can perform
> simple tasks like not muffing punts.
It was one muffed punt.......the other was a strip from behind on the tackle. But who's counting?
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Is Tennessee better than Usuc?
Jan 7, 2014, 9:01 PM
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Just because they won? Clemson is better than Usuc. It was obvious
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Re: Is Tennessee better than Usuc? Nope.
Jan 7, 2014, 10:07 PM
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No, South Carolina is better because the Gamecocks have a better body of work than Clemson and Tennessee. South Carolina beat a number of ranked teams this year including Clemson. How many ranked teams did South Carolina or Tennessee beat (you don't have to say grossly overranked OSU because we already saw that "paper tiger" fold up.
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Uh no
Jan 7, 2014, 9:02 PM
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1 muffed punt. The other punt was after he had ran several yards with the ball and it was punched out. Did you watch the game or just read the excuses?
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Ball was not "punched out".***
Jan 7, 2014, 9:03 PM
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What term would you use to describe it?***
Jan 7, 2014, 9:06 PM
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7 words.
Jan 7, 2014, 9:08 PM
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Humphries was switching arms and lost control.
"Punched out" is a complete farce.
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Re: 7 words.
Jan 7, 2014, 10:09 PM
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Did anyone on the staff advise Humphries not to switch hands in that situation? Poor coaching.
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Re: 7 words.
Jan 7, 2014, 10:56 PM
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> Humphries was switching arms and lost control.
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> "Punched out" is a complete farce.
Dabo.......is that you?
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We are the better team this year and last year.
Jan 7, 2014, 9:17 PM
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We have to get tougher mentally and play with confidence
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Re: We are the better team this year and last year.
Jan 7, 2014, 9:43 PM
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Clemson is not better in any way than South Carolina. You had your chance to beat us and end the streak, but your team was either poorly prepared, less talented than believed, thoroughly beaten or some combination of all of those. For the fifth straight year, SC went out on the field against Clemson and got the win.
We are ranked higher b/c we earned it. Youngest team in college football with lots of youth on defense and offense and really crappy special teams play and still won 11 games. Dabo rightly talked about how special 11 wins in a row 2 straight years is; it's hard to do...And we've done it 3 years in a row, something you guys won't see Clemson do.
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