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I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:00 AM
 

If this was my team, you'd never wear my uniform again. And it wasn't even his first time doing it.

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Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:13 AM
 

If he won't honor this county, he can leave for all I care. This is not a utopian society, but watch the news and find much worse. If I were a 49ers fan, I would want him gone.

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thats what I wonder

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 4:05 PM
 

what country in the world has better race relations with a sizable minatory than the USA? All you have to do is do a tiny bit of research and see that other countries handle minority populations much much worse.


Bay City politicians will throw him a confetti parade...


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 7:32 PM
 

...and give him amnesty.

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He is an AZZhole....he should leave the USA then. Unreal

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:16 AM
 

He sure does not mind cashing his paycheck every week!


What a disgrace

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:18 AM
 

I hope he fails reaching any of his goals in life.


Re: What a disgrace

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:43 PM
 

IMO, it's a disgrace to trivialize our flag and anthem by its use at sporting events.

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Re: What a disgrace


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:47 PM
 

Care to elaborate?


You mean events where thousands of free

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 4:25 PM
 

people in America can celebrate their freedoms and liberties while being entertained and supporting their community and team?
Yeah, sounds trivial to me...


I'll help him elaborate....

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 8:28 AM
 

I don't see the necessity to link football and jingoistic support for military, nationalism, etc.

It is pretty hypocritical for college/nfl football fans attending games, who by and large are far whiter and wealthier than the average American, to criticize a black player who most likely didn't grow up with the advantages of the 80,000 people sitting in the stands for having a different perspective when it comes to politics.

If "love it or leave it" is the end of your thought process, maybe you ought to do a little more reading and thinking.

Deshaun Watson could wipe his butt with little American flags every day and I'd still want him to win the Heisman and lead us to the playoffs again.


Re: I'll help him elaborate....

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 9:20 AM
 

^this guy gets it.

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This is about more than football


Posted: Aug 28, 2016 9:38 AM
 

If this guy were born in Afghanistan he would never have had the opportunity to be playing football, driving a Porche and screwing models. Stand up and show some appreciation for the blessings that this nation has given you and the men that died to make it possible. Anything less than that shows exactly how ignorant, classless and selfish your rotten soul is.


Re: This is about more than football

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 10:37 AM
 

No, it isn't about more than football. If you want to celebrate our military's accomplishments, then go to an air show or a parade or a museum or a battlefield park.

I go to a football game to watch football and have a good time. The 84,000 people in Death Valley have Clemson football in common. We do not all have our politics in common. Nor do we all have love of the military in common. Believe it or not, we could have a perfectly good football game without a national anthem, flags, prayers, color guards, and jet flybys.

It isn't America's military victories that have made it a great nation. Have our military failures in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Nicaragua, Cuba, Korea, Canada, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, and Somalia made us a sorry nation?

I'd also argue that our two vast oceans and our two peaceful, weak neighbors have also had a lot to do with preserving our nations's freedoms (this despite us having invaded and conquered/attempted to conquer said peaceful, weak neighbors). Why don't we have Vast Oceanic Barriers plus Canada and Mexico Suck at War Appreciation Day along with Military Appreciation Day?


Re: This is about more than football


Posted: Aug 28, 2016 1:41 PM
 

The games would not be the same without the Anthem being played, the flag saluted, the prayers etc. The Anthem reminds us we are all Americans and the Prayer humbly reminds us we are all Gods children. Without that we are enimies and would act like heathens. We differ ideologically that's for sure, your side of America sees no merit to values and I place a great emphasis on them. Without values we are lost.


Even if he isn't patriotic, he should have been a...

[5]
Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:19 AM
 

professional and done it. It's insulting to most fans.

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I called him Knucklehead since day one

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:29 AM
 

proof came our in the end. He'll be deep-fryin' chicken for a living, eventually.

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Re: I called him Knucklehead since day one


Posted: Aug 29, 2016 9:09 AM
 

That's not blatantly racist at all...

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To each his own***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:33 AM
 




Re: To each his own***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:45 AM
 

You post the same crap on two different threads?? Who / what are you? I don't care what his message is. It's foolishly ill-timed and disrespectful. Shame on you and Collin then, if what you think he did is "cool" for any American to do because of the liberties that we are afforded, (let alone one in his position).


May he break each leg in the first game***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:49 AM
 




Re: To each his own***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:48 AM
 

Maybe he should spend more time learning his job. He hasn't been very good for several years now. This gives me a real reason to pull against him now.

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Bull shit. If he doesn't love and respect the country that

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:31 PM
 

gave him everything he has, then get the heck out.


Re: Bull shit. If he doesn't love and respect the country that

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:35 PM
 

Popular at parties, are ya?

Mindless patriotism. The greatness of America is it's people, not it's institutions.

Freedom to speak or not to speak is still freedom. The problem with mindless patriotism is that it blemishes the very freedoms that it claims to honor.

The idea that our country is better than all other countries is propaganda.

There is a difference between loving the American people and being a sheep.

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with all due respect Felix, and I understand where you're

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:46 PM
 

coming from... there is great irony in your words as well. You seem to be saying that he is free to speak his mind and express his opinion... no matter how controversial...in a very public way, for millions of people to see... but we all need to just shut up, and not express our opinion that we strongly disagree with him.

Sorry, but that's simply not how it works.

I've used this example many times on the topic of "free speech". Yes, you are absolutely free to get up in a company meeting and tell a racist joke or comment on how blazing hot the new receptionist is. Yes, you have that right. No one will try to stop you, and you won't be thrown in jail. You do have that freedom.

But you will also lose your job before the day is done. Not because your "right to free speech" was violated, but because you are not protected from the fallout. So, always speak wisely, and consider both the audience and the ramifications of your "free speech". This really isn't rocket surgery, seems like common sense.

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so the "mindless patriots" and the politically correct

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:55 PM
 

Police Are one in the same or do they just want to silence the other? You seem to be a liberal but unaware that your fellow constituents are doing just what you are against. Silencing free speech.

I for one could care less what Kaperknik does. However, for action has a reaction. He will have to deal with the folks that don't approve of his actions.


He is perpetrating a myth that does not exist

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 8:20 PM
 

He was abandoned by a black father, raised by white parents in affluence, and is a millionaire living in a free country. He has been given everything in a country that protects his rights to speak ignorance about it. He condones violence against police officers, and thinks of himself as oppressed. Sure, he has the right to say what he wants, but I also have the right to call him what he is: a ####### disgrace!



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Re: Bull shit. If he doesn't love and respect the country that

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 12:26 AM
 

> Popular at parties, are ya?
>
> Mindless patriotism. The greatness of America is
> it's people, not it's institutions.
>
> Freedom to speak or not to speak is still freedom.
> The problem with mindless patriotism is that it
> t blemishes the very freedoms that it claims to
> honor.
>
> The idea that our country is better than all other
> countries is propaganda.
>
> There is a difference between loving the American
> people and being a sheep.

There's also a difference between respecting the 58,195 names on the Vietnam Wall and completely spitting in all of their faces. You, and Kaepernick, are here and free because of them. Along with millions of others. Have some respect.


Re: To each his own***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:52 PM
 

Respectable comment 864. If I could TU, I'll give you one.

The rest of these negative comments tho? And y'all wonder why he didn't stand up lol. Get y'all heads out your asz and quit acting like black oppression wasn't/isn't real. Once you realize and open your eyes America will become a better place. Until then we're gonna be divided.


CT93:


Posted: Aug 28, 2016 1:16 PM
 

Colon Num-nutzduck may have done more to begin unifying us than he realizes. I have seen both sides note how utterly stupid his reasoning was, and this may have created a common ground for us all.


Dude averages $19 MILLION/year...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:58 AM
 

...I wish I was so oppressed!!


Pretty prevalent behavior in today's society, do or say ....

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 12:00 PM
 

things to #### off others as if that in some way enhances your position.

Disrespecting the flag and national anthem is a throwback to the '60's protest movement. Seems history goes round and round with the same results. Ironic that the country whose flag and anthem are being intentially disrespected provides the freedom to do so.

Polarizing behavior and dialogue seldom bring constructive change. Any forum Colin had has been diminished

All that and he sucks as a fantasy QB.

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Yeah....he has a right to do that, but he is still a moron

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 12:01 PM
 

(sorry for the mis-spelling) for not honoring our flag which stands for a country and principles that have a system in place to correct injustices to our citizens. If he is looking for a country that has zero individuals that are not prejudice against people of color, national origin, or religion then good luck finding one!


who? LOL sorry dude, your 15 mins are long gone...***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 12:52 PM
 



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Screw him and the 49ers***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 1:36 PM
 



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The irony in this thread is breathtaking.

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:28 PM
 

Condemning someone for not being patriotic enough in a "free country".

Geez

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Do you dare to condemn those condeming

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:49 PM
 

in a free country!? The ironic irony is breathtakingly breathtaking!


Re: The irony in this thread is breathtaking.


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 8:11 PM
 

Say what u like but that's too much. People may have died for his freedom to chose but someone needs to put him in his place. That's over the top. He didn't win any respect doing that. Not a drop.


^^^^LIBTARD^^^^


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 8:24 PM
 

If Kappernick's mindless rhetoric would have been speaking against radical Muslims, Felix would condemn him for that, but since it is just lies that separate Americans, then it is ok.

It is in the Libtard manual.

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Re: ^^^^LIBTARD^^^^


Posted: Aug 29, 2016 9:12 AM
 

Learn the difference between being critical and condemning.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2016 12:03 AM
 

The majority of Americans just don't care about the adolescent 'political' actions and opinions of a 28yr old pissant.
He isn't influential in any meaningful way.
I think the outcry exceeds the event here, but that's just me.

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Amen! If you don't want honor or national anthem then he can you play football in


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:33 PM
 

another country. What a jerk!

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Re: I don't care who you are...


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:34 PM
 

This society that he can't stand so much is paying him millions to throw a #### ball around... d!psh!t.


Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:37 PM
 

> This society that he can't stand so much is paying
> him millions to throw a #### ball around... d!psh!t.

This society isn't paying him shit. Try to see the big picture. Our people didn't fight and die for a free county only to have that very freedom denied to those who don't agree with your idea of patriotism. People like you shame America.

Let me give you an example. Gabby Douglas won a gold medal for us in the Olympics. In the excitement of the medal ceremony this 20 year old forgot to put her hand over her heart. Because of that silly, mindless thugs like you butchered her over the internet.

Thank God you don't represent America and what it stands for. I don't think you even understand what it stands for.


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Re: I don't care who you are...


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:48 PM
 

??


He is a "has been" QB. No story here, just a clown.***

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 2:48 PM
 



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that dude wouldn't wear my uniform

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:13 PM
 

Because he sucks ass. Nevermind that's a chump move. He has a right to his opinion but I wasn't aware the national anthem represented police brutality. This punk is taking something that represents the good ideals of this nation and is twisting for his own agenda. F this no good loser QB


Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:16 PM
 

I'm glad he done it. No black person should pledge allegiance to that flag.


Re: I don't care who you are...


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:19 PM
 

> I'm glad he done it. No black person should pledge
> allegiance to that flag.

Even Obama?

I kind of like the leader of America to be into America. I'm glad he agrees.


"You glad he done it"


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 8:26 PM
 

Educated fella are ya?

Yea, next please....

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Give me a break Kap! You should be cut immediately!!


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:20 PM
 

He is a dynamic athlete, but a complete joke of a player and an even bigger joke of a person and makes way too much money to be a washed up backup QB. I firmly believe he doesn't have any problems with being oppressed and race issues and that he's only doing this to draw attention to himself because he's basically done as a player and he wants the spotlight! He is biracial, was raised by white parents and has white siblings. But now all of a sudden he's being oppressed and hates his countrys flag and national anthem! Please save the 49ers a lot of money and just leave the Good Ole USA since you have it so bad here!!! GOD Bless Clemson, GOD Bless the USA and GOD Bless us all!!!


Re: Give me a break Kap! You should be cut immediately!!

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:33 PM
 

I disagree that he should be cut...but considering that the NFL is a fan-driven game, and he did just make himself radioactive to a bunch of fans with this move, it wasn't a smart decision.

Go ahead, Colin. Take an adversarial stand that alienates most of the people who pay big bucks for your salary. The working-class joes propping you up are really going to be sympathetic to the notion that a kinda-black dude (he's what, 25% black or some such...whatever, he's a lot whiter than he is black) who was raised by white parents and earns $19 million a year feels racially oppressed. To the point that he hates America.

Okay, Colin. Not feeling loved? Not feeling like the fans are embracing you?

Shocker.

But yes, Colin lives in a free country. He should not be fired. He should not be jailed. He should not be subjected to legal or government-initiated harassment. And he has every right to walk down the street without fear of his life or safety.

On the other hand, because it's a free country, the fans are free to hate him too...and it is going to be very hard to win the fan base when at least half of them are lustily raining down boos every snap, which is what's about to happen.

The 49ers brass and locker room has to be doing a collective facepalm here. Some guys are just dumb.


thank you, my good man quozzel... perfectly said***


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:55 PM
 



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Re: Give me a break Kap! You should be cut immediately!!


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 6:33 PM
 

Well put Quozzel. But I would only offer this. Like most fans, if he starts taking the 49ers to the Super Bowl? Those fans won't care if his middle name is Hussein and he wears girls underwear.

They'll love him.

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If Kap wears girly stuff and looks like


Posted: Aug 28, 2016 1:20 PM
 

Hussein and the 49'er fans root for him......




That's California for ya'.


Kapernick is a Filthy Bag of Scheize

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 3:46 PM
 

I wouldn't say this about any other players, but I would laugh heartily if he got Theismanned and was carted off on the meat wagon.

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I support free speech AND I support the right of opposing

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 4:14 PM
 

defenses to light his ### UP.

Guaran-dayum-tee you if Ben B. were pro-ing he'd do some headhunting on this sumbish.

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Re: I don't care who you are...


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 4:28 PM
 

Maybe Mr. Kaepernick's personal protest would seem a little more heartfelt if he also declined his overpaid salary, which is U.S. currency.
What a douche.

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He was never any good anyway!


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 4:49 PM
 

nm


Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 6:56 PM
 

Let's hope that someone hacks his financial accounts and cleans him out. And then no team allow him on their roster. Then McDonald's won't hire him to be the fry cook. I want to laugh in his face some day. Maybe he will understand oppression better when we parachute his ### over some deserted island. We'll drop him a flag (with the one-finger-salute on it) that he can call his own.


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Posted: Aug 27, 2016 8:07 PM
 

I agree. He should get canned and his reasoning was stupid and small minded. I hope he pays for his decision dearly.


Coots agree


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:11 PM
 

242 posts on same subject. Their posts are on football forum.


Kaepernick is only half black


Posted: Aug 27, 2016 11:57 PM
 

Shouldn't he just take a knee instead of sitting down?


Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 1:07 AM
 

You opinions aren't very American. He should have the, what do you call it? Ummm, free... Freedom! That's it's it freedom. He should have the freedom to choose not to have to stand during song, patriotic of otherwise. Too bad he doesn't live in like America or something...

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Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 7:01 AM
 

You all are right that this is the USA and that we have freedom here.

However, I have the freedom to wish he would just get the ell out of this country.

To me, this is spitting on the graves of everyone who helped to build and defend this country.

Things are not perfect...but his so called protest does not do anything to help improve the situation. Him being in the spotlight allows him to be an example and to do things to help unify this county. He chooses to do the exact opposite.

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Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 8:14 AM
 

He didn't divide America. America has been divided since its inception.


Re: I don't care who you are...

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Posted: Aug 28, 2016 10:08 AM
 

I did not say he divided America. I said he could be part of the solution. Not simply add to the problem.

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Re: I don't care who you are...


Posted: Aug 29, 2016 7:47 AM
 

Really Great idea Colin. If you truly believe this, take some of those millions that you are being paid for playing a game(poorly of late) and set up a charity defense fund for those people that you say are oppressed and put your money where your mouth is like Jim Brown and Muhammed Ali did. Make a stand that costs you huge amounts of money and walk away from your career in your prime to prove your beliefs. Then I will respect your protests. Until then, you are just a privileged, spoiled brat. My two cents.


I think he is just too d@mned lazy to stand up, and


Posted: Aug 29, 2016 11:07 AM
 

this is a convenient excuse not to.

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Re: I don't care who you are...


Posted: Aug 29, 2016 12:05 PM
 

This is a seriously misguided individual. He needs some perspective that reaches beyond the nose on his face. Smh


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