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Letterman [270]
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Honest % in your opinion of Tiger Nation wanting to leave???
May 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
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For the Big 12...
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All-In [27180]
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Tiger Nation or Tiger Net?***
May 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
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Letterman [270]
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Re: Tiger Nation***
May 25, 2012, 11:34 AM
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All-In [27180]
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I think if they read the fine print they'd be for a move.
May 25, 2012, 11:38 AM
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But since a lot don't really understand the numbers/metrics behind TV viewership and how those impact revenues, I'd put the overall % in favor at about 65%-70%.
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Orange Blooded [2755]
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Re: Tiger Nation***
May 25, 2012, 12:12 PM
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Better #### well be 100%
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Letterman [253]
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Probably about 55%
May 25, 2012, 11:34 AM
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Tiger fans are nothing if not set in their ways. Good thing this board doesn't get to decide squat, otherwise we'd change coaching staffs every season, LOL...
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All-In [26968]
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No way, dude. Not sure where you get that number.
May 25, 2012, 11:59 AM
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It's clearly more like 53%.
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CU Medallion [50635]
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53%is from the dead ball era***
May 25, 2012, 12:58 PM
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Legend [18133]
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That would depend on whether you mean informed fans or
May 25, 2012, 11:34 AM
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casual fans. Of the informed, I'd guess 80%. Of all "fans" regardless of level of interest, probably 50%.
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All-In [26968]
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So people who disagree with you are not "informed"?***
May 25, 2012, 11:37 AM
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110%er [6858]
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In this case, yes that would be correct***
May 25, 2012, 11:38 AM
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All-TigerNet [10498]
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Most casual fans likely don't realize the ACC is sinking
May 25, 2012, 1:29 PM
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I'm all for history and tradition, and I do love some of our intra-ACC rivalries, but with the money involved and Tobacco Road centric leadership we just can't afford to stay anymore. I think the casual fan probably doesn't know just how much the landscape has changed recently . . . teams either need to hitch their wagons to one of the big dogs or enjoy becoming mid-majors.
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35%***
May 25, 2012, 11:39 AM
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Re: 35%***
May 25, 2012, 11:43 AM
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Although I would love to see Clemson play Texas & OU, I think the travel costs (as a fan) would be too much for most fans. I would prefer Clemson consider joining the SEC or improving the ACC and adding Texas & OU to our out of conference schedule.
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Re: 35%***
May 25, 2012, 11:46 AM
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I think (based on culture & geography) Clemson's best fit
is the SEC. Academically (based on the Universities mission) and University size, I think Clemson is best fit for the ACC.
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Letterman [253]
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I would prefer...
May 25, 2012, 11:53 AM
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...that most of these fans I keep hearing about that can't afford to get on an airplane and travel spend less of their money on Big Macs and disposable sh!t from Wal Mart and save up for going to see the Tigers play some great football.
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Hall of Famer [24440]
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49% go. 51% stay. and that probably reflects my feelings
May 25, 2012, 11:42 AM
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more than anything else.
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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65-70%***
May 25, 2012, 2:38 PM
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Re: Honest % in your opinion of Tiger Nation wanting to leave???
May 25, 2012, 11:57 AM
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I think most don't *want* to leave. They just see that Clemson has no choice if it wants to be a major football player and have a chance to compete with rival SC. Most of the ones who are against leaving haven't looked at the financial situation. They think because Clemson and SC have similar sized stadiums they must be making the same money.
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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I've been in IPTAY for 14 years, if we don't go I may not
May 25, 2012, 12:00 PM
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be around for 15---I want them to be as committed to me as I am to them.
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Legend [15800]
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110%***
May 25, 2012, 12:01 PM
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Letterman [270]
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wow
May 25, 2012, 12:08 PM
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you're the idiot
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Legend [15800]
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Who's an idiot....any CU fan would know that was a toss to
May 25, 2012, 12:55 PM
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the great Frank Howard (he coached at Clemson). What are you 3?
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Legend [18133]
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There's one in every crowd.***
May 25, 2012, 12:58 PM
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110%er [5298]
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Re: Honest % in your opinion of Tiger Nation wanting to leave???
May 25, 2012, 12:08 PM
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I would say something like 80% want out of the ACC, not necessarily to join the Big 12. Probably around 80% would be interested in going to the big 12 if we knew that GT, FSU, and Miami were going with us to the Big 12. With our TV deal the ACC appears to be a sinking ship.
We aren't going to be able to compete with the SEC teams we regularly play when they are making considerably more money per year than we are. I also don't think Notre Dame or PSU are going to swoop in at the last minute to save the ACC because they have nothing to gain by coming here. I almost feel like when ESPN became a 24/7 hype machine for the SEC, they pretty much doomed the ACC, especially the ACC schools who have SEC rivals.
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How about a simple poll?
May 25, 2012, 1:19 PM
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1. Leave the ACC or change revenue sharing arrangements
2. Stay in the ACC under same present conditions
KISS
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110%er [7219]
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Orange Blooded [4444]
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I don't want to leave, but we're being forced to.
May 25, 2012, 1:13 PM
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The only way we stay is:
1 - ACC financial concessions to us
2 - 8 game conference schedule
3 - 8 team NCAA playoff system
Outside of these 3 things happening - we're gone.
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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We might stay
May 25, 2012, 1:35 PM
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with just the first 2, but I wouldn't support it
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All-American [591]
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100% For Leaving
May 25, 2012, 1:16 PM
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MVP [548]
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For those that are aware of the TV figures, 90-95%.**
May 25, 2012, 1:16 PM
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