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YOUR BALANCE
I know it's early, but Venables needs to go
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I know it's early, but Venables needs to go


Sep 23, 2012, 12:00 AM

We let up nearly 700 yards tonight. Our offense was great, but you can only do so much when you're playing against such a good defense. The FSU offense is good, but they waltzed all over our team. Our offense did great despite having to earn every yard.

We have our guy on offense, but Brent...you gotta go. You talked about how "we need to make big changes or the scoreboard will break"...well the scoreboard broke. Our defense is the sole reason we lost this game tonight. We need to find something else.

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A coach can't change players that are given to him.


Sep 23, 2012, 12:01 AM

I have to give a guy more than 1/3 of the season to prove himself. Heck, I might even give him 2 seasons.

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BRING IT!


Didnt stop Morris..


Sep 23, 2012, 12:05 AM

HE paid instant dividends.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


We also didn't have Sammy in 2010***


Sep 23, 2012, 12:07 AM



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Re: Didnt stop Morris..


Sep 23, 2012, 12:09 AM [ in reply to Didnt stop Morris.. ]

Morris was handed Ferraris. BV was handed a few Scions with an occasional Buick.

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omg. BEST POST EVER. ^^^^^^^^^


Sep 23, 2012, 12:40 AM

lol

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Are you gonna compare Sammy Watkins to


Sep 23, 2012, 12:09 AM [ in reply to Didnt stop Morris.. ]

Xavier Brewer??

Nuke Hopkins to Corrico Wright??

Boyd to Willard??

Ellington to Goodman??

You cannot seriously compare the talent on O to D...

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Sammy is not the only player on the O. Sammy could not do


Sep 23, 2012, 12:16 AM

squat in a 2 on 11 game. some of you guys act like we all of the sudden have 1 star recruits on the Defensive side of the ball.

our defense simply is not doing a good job.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


So sick of this excuse. Our linebackers average 4.5* yet we


Sep 23, 2012, 12:36 AM [ in reply to A coach can't change players that are given to him. ]

Cant stop the run. Guys always look lost. These are scheme issues.

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COLLEGE: A three-year starter at strong safety for Clemson, finished his career with 234 tackles and 11 interceptions.


Re: I know it's early, but Venables needs to go


Sep 23, 2012, 12:01 AM

There aren't words to explain your if orange. F##k off.

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Find it hard to put all the blame on Venables. The guy beat


Sep 23, 2012, 12:02 AM

FSU twice before he came to Clemson. I think our D is plagued by youth and lack of talent.

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did Steele win all those games at Alabama?***


Sep 23, 2012, 12:05 AM



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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


would your boss fire you after 3 great weeks and 1 bad week


Sep 23, 2012, 12:03 AM

They are all steeles recruits

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Correction


Sep 23, 2012, 12:08 AM

They are all Dabo's recruits.

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Wow, that's brilliant. Fire a new coach after 4 games. Dumb.***


Sep 23, 2012, 12:04 AM



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3-1 and just lost by 12 to the #4 team in the country,


Sep 23, 2012, 12:04 AM

at their house and you guys want to fire a coach. Unbeleivable!!!

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you guys?***


Sep 23, 2012, 12:06 AM



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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Strode tiger....is right...have to recruit hard on d***


Sep 23, 2012, 12:06 AM



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actually...


Sep 23, 2012, 12:06 AM

as horrible as the D was tonight...and it was HORRIBLE...Nobody should be surprised at that right now. the offensive play calling in the second half, after Sammy's touchdown pass, was horrible. all short dump offs. i saw the protection was not good, but we completely abandoned all vertical play calling. we shortened the field on ourselves and allowed them to tee off on us. Tajh was also bailing quickly as he got shell-shocked. like i said, there was clearly more pressure in the second half...but play calling was awful and prevented us from being there in the end for a final shootout.

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Re: actually...


Sep 23, 2012, 12:07 AM

Gave up on running Ellington too quick and then having to resort to trick plays to score sealed the deal. At that point we were trying to throw everything at them.

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At least someone saw what I was screaming. I have no idea


Sep 23, 2012, 12:28 AM [ in reply to actually... ]

why 4-yard dump-offs and QB draws became the norm. Morris lost it in the 2nd half. Their LBs were cheating and their DLs were selling out because we never ran a screen or threw long in the second half. As good as the first half was, the second half was equally as bad.

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No, he doesn't need to leave!


Sep 23, 2012, 12:06 AM

Look at what the guy inherited--a defense that allowed 70 points in the Orange Bowl! Do you honestly think ANYONE could turn that around four games??? He said before the season began that we were thin in most spots on the D. That showed tonight as they got tired as the game went on. I am not happy for a loss, but losing by 12 to FL State is a lot better than the WVU fiasco.

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FSU's offense was a step faster than our defense..


Sep 23, 2012, 12:06 AM

bottom line.

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Re: I know it's early, but Venables needs to go


Sep 23, 2012, 12:08 AM

BV is horrible. Our D has regressed. Nobody can tackle. He has to go.

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our offense couldn't give them a break


Sep 23, 2012, 12:08 AM

Ellington was the leading rusher in the ACC coming in, and he had 12 rushes in the 3rd or 4th quarter. We didn't try to bleed the clock, so we'd send out our shaky defense time and time again. it was a total team choke tonight

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Re: I know it's early, but Venables needs to go


Sep 23, 2012, 12:10 AM

Give him time. He's gonna turn this thing around. We lost to a good tem and it was ugly like WV.

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Have to let let the season play out


Sep 23, 2012, 12:13 AM

and see if they show improvement. Some of it can be blamed on youth...but for us to have arguably the worst D in D-1 is inexcusable...there is too much talent on board, even if it is young, for that to happen.

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Are you serious?


Sep 23, 2012, 12:18 AM

I honestly don't believe Steele should have been fired. He lead Clemson to top defenses for years and had one bad year playing second fiddle to an offense that is gonna naturally put him in bad situations. But you lose the three best players off that defense and bring in a new guy to right the ship and expect it to happen over night? give the guy time.

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Sep 23, 2012, 12:33 AM



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Re: 3-1 and just lost by 12 to the #4 team in the country,


Sep 23, 2012, 12:38 AM

Right? What a crybaby

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Re: I know it's early, but Venables needs to go


Sep 23, 2012, 12:40 AM

Dang man give him some time. Great defenses aren't built in a single year.

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Recruiting is only PART of the job....


Sep 23, 2012, 12:43 AM

...GOOD or not, ALL recruits still have to be developed.

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