HEY UNC! - A longish rant, but sincere - Tiger Boards Archive Forum

This rant has probably been stated and restated here numerous times, but not by me. My apologies if I am redundant with regard to obvious prior consensus. I need to get this off my chest. I'm nauseous and I've finally reached my breaking point.

Until these heels accept real consequences for their obvious academic fraud, UNC will remain an embarrassing blot on the ACC's reputation as a whole. The NCAA is laughable, but even it's weakling reputation can further fall. I must say, I couldn't care less about that ungoverned body. UNC needs to act independent of their ineptitude.

While UNC continues to avoid responsibility, fundamental trust in the integrity of their university will only worsen. It's possible the harm is permanent now. We won't know until they show contrition; but, surely, there are at least a minority of Chapel Hill administrators who realize the jeopardy they continue to risk through avoidance.

I realize I risk naivete but surely even haughty UNC must realize that a resolution with temporary yet serious consequences might ultimately restore trust in their integrity over the long term. It's the only path forward. How else will they reestablish good faith?

We Tigers have an axe to grind. Sure we do. Outsiders might believe our motives are petty, motivated not by the desire for justice but rather by some lingering cynical revenge for past grievances; but any reasonable bystander without 'bias clouding their judgment' must see how punishment would ultimately serve UNC's long term interests.

The longer they delay, the less they show concern for the health of this former venerable academic powerhouse.

All ACC schools have outstanding, hard-earned academic reputations. Our beloved Clemson and the rest, Notre Dame, Virginia, Duke, GT, Wake, Boston College, Pitt, Syracuse, Miami, even NC State, FSU, VT and Louisville continue to build upon justifiable elite conference pride. Either we grow or we die. UNC seems H**L bent on self-destruction.

Prior to all of this nonsense, UNC was among the very best in our conference. I am no champion of ACC brotherhood, but when it comes to academic matters, we have reason to defend our superiority. Excellence must be tended with constant effort.

If my opinion is perceived by non-Tigers as nothing more than an expression of some long held internal grudge, well, so be it; but, if this is the case, the powers that be must suffer from a form of hallucinatory delusion, a form of stupidity that reputations are the permanent reward for past glory, an anachronistic belief akin to respect for an absurd notion of an unassailable royal status. Give up the ghost, man.

Take your medicine, Tarheels. Man up and accept the reality that you need to take steps forward, painful steps, sure, but steps toward a future where your reputation might be regained. A reputation aligned with the rest of the ACC. A reputation that will permanently suffer if sanctions are not endured.

Otherwise you're a needless burden upon the rest of us with healthy self-respect.

Now I will return to my standard aloof regard for this entire farce.

GO TIGERS!

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Avoid responsibility ? UNCheat lied

Apr 22, 2016, 9:36 AM

Dr, Carol L, Folt
Chancellor
SACS, coe
SOUTHERN ASSOCIATION Of COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS
COMMISSION ON COLLEGES
November 13, 2014

Dr, Carol L, Folt
Chancellor
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
103 South Building
Campus Box 9100
Chapel Hill, NC 27599-9100
Dear Dr, Folt:
The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges' policy, "Standing
Rules: SACSCOC Board of Trustees, Executive Council, and the College Delegate Assembly,"
(available at www,sacscocorg) stipulates that the Commission give appropriate consideration to
significant accreditation-related unsolicited information revealed about the institution between
periods of scheduled review, This policy provides that an institution be afforded the opportunity to
respond to concerns raised by the review of the unsolicited information,

I am writing to you today because the recently released report you sent to SACSCOC entitled,
"Investigation of Irregular Classes in the Department of African and Afro-American Studies at the
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill" (Caldwalader Report) regarding academic irregularity
and degree integrity issues, has raised questions about the University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill's ongoing compliance with the Principles of Accreditation (copy enclosed), Many of the
assertions made by the investigative report were based on interviews with the two university
employees responsible for instigating and perpetuating the "academic irregularities,"
At the time of the Committee visit on April 2-4, 2013, the University appeared to confine the root of the problems to "the unethical actions by two people that required the University to go through this process .. ,", a phrase used by the previous chancellor, The Committee was unable to interview the two primary coordinators due to legal actions pending against them; however, the Cadwalader Report makes it clear that there was a network of individuals within the academic and athletic community that knew of and referred students to the "paper classes," The administration's failure, prior to the review of the SACSCOC Special Committee, to examine the full impact of these "academic irregularities" beyond the professional activities of two people;
evidence that some University faculty and staff were aware of the fraud and played a part in directing students toward the classes; and additional evidence in the report supporting the fact that students" received one or more semesters of deficient instruction and were awarded high
grades that often had little relationship to the quality of their work" (page 3, Cadwalader) cause
SACSCOC to raise questions about the University's compliance with the following standards:

1. institutional integrity
2. program content
3. organizational structure
4. personnel appointment
5. control of intercollegiate athletics
6. admissions policies
7. academic policies
8. academic support services
9. faculty evaluation
10. academic freedom
11. faculty role in governance
12. student records
13. qualified staff
14. policy compliance
15. publication of policies
16. recruitment materials
17. title IV program responsibilities
18. credit hour

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They loved selling us down the river for way less

Swofford is looking to add an extra year***

Swofford will double their penalty...