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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Gotta nut problem
Jul 23, 2019, 7:09 PM
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So I have a brand new kitchen faucet. I bought it because it looked like it was high-quality, got great reviews, and was cheap. It came with its own water supply lines. What is odd, is that one side of each supply line is a male end. You can’t find these supply lines in the store. Once you insert the supply line inside the faucet housing, you can no longer reach the nut to tighten the supply line. It is an incredibly tight space and the nut is about 2 inches inside the housing. A basin wrench will not work. Any plumbers out there?
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Lot o points [181005]
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We don't mess with plumbing...
Jul 23, 2019, 7:14 PM
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or garage doors around here.
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Bunch of savages...
Jul 23, 2019, 7:17 PM
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Seriously, I’m having trouble with my garage door too. Is this some sort of conspiracy?
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CU Medallion [50635]
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start by waxing your nuts***
Jul 23, 2019, 7:16 PM
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Lot o points [163012]
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Hard to picture what you are describing, but I have had a
Jul 23, 2019, 7:31 PM
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glass of wine.
But it does not look like this I assume.
Not a plumber but have done my share of back breaking faucet replacements.
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Re: Hard to picture what you are describing, but I have had a
Jul 23, 2019, 8:00 PM
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The nut portion of the water supply goes up inside the base of the faucet which is no bigger than maybe 1.5-2” in diameter. Plus it’s about an inch deep in the housing...a basin wrench is too fat to reach inside. I almost need a very small open ended wrench whose end is bent at 90 degrees....not even sure that’d work.
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Had an issue like that with the kitchen faucet
Jul 23, 2019, 8:06 PM
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had to use needle nose pliers and a #### ton of cuss words to get it tight
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Re: Had an issue like that with the kitchen faucet
Jul 23, 2019, 8:12 PM
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That may have to do. They’re braided supply lines so I tried to just torque the supply line as much as possible and have it screw itself in...not very confident in that alone though.
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Lot o points [163012]
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And I assumed you check the reviews to be sure this issue
Jul 23, 2019, 7:38 PM
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was not already discussed or solved. Got a link for the type of faucet? I am bored.
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Re: And I assumed you check the reviews to be sure this issue
Jul 23, 2019, 8:03 PM
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I did. One made mention of odd supply lines but overwhelming everyone said great product and easy to install. I wrote my own review pointing out how this product is NOT easily installed and my review has yet to be posted. I don’t trust Amazon reviews anymore.
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Lot o points [163012]
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Don't you connect the lines to your water
Jul 23, 2019, 8:40 PM
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before you connect the given lines to the faucet? Seems like I had that on one at my son's house.
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Re: Don't you connect the lines to your water
Jul 23, 2019, 11:47 PM
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I don’t think so...that’d be virtually impossible in my case. I attach the water line to my faucet, then feed the lines through my counter and tighten the large nut that secures the faucet to the counter. Then all I have to do is connect to the water supply.
If I connected to the supply first, I’d have to reach under the sink in a very awkward position to attach an already difficult to attach water line to the faucet.
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The faucet was cheap because you need to buy
Jul 23, 2019, 7:39 PM
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an expensive proprietary tool to wrench your nuts.
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Maybe it's just me...and perhaps I'm just a wimp...
Jul 23, 2019, 8:06 PM
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But wrenching nuts sounds incredibly painful!
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Re: The faucet was cheap because you need to buy
Jul 23, 2019, 8:08 PM
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Maybe...they cleverly advertised it in a way that that wasn’t very apparent. When they showed a pic of the supplied water lines, it showed the 3/8th end only that attaches to the supply valve.
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Attach the supply lines to the faucet
Jul 24, 2019, 7:07 AM
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prior to installing the faucet to the sink.
I learned this by watching a plumber.
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Re: Sounds like you need a modified basin wrench
Jul 24, 2019, 11:15 AM
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That’s probably the best bet so far. The only other issue is the two supply lines are nearly touching under the faucet. Any girth to the tool may prevent it from tightening the second line after the first is installed.
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You’re talking about a different kind of plumbing***
Jul 24, 2019, 3:39 PM
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What size is the nut in question? (lulz)
Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 PM
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Or are you talking about the flat flange that holds the fixture in place?
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Re: What size is the nut in question? (lulz)
Jul 24, 2019, 12:59 PM
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The male end of the water supply...not sure the size. The nut portion is a part of the line itself, if that makes any sense.
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Re: What size is the nut in question? (lulz)
Jul 24, 2019, 1:04 PM
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Pigs would probably help. If it's what i'm picturing, you may need something like an open sided socket that allows the line to lay inside the socket body and the socket slides over the nut. But you will need a size.
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Re: What size is the nut in question? (lulz)
Jul 24, 2019, 1:11 PM
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Refer to pic below. That’s EXACTLY what I thought of...an open ended socket! I even thought of taking a grinder to one if I couldn’t find it.
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Re: What size is the nut in question? (lulz)
Jul 24, 2019, 1:32 PM
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That picture worked. That Amazon link doesn't work anymore, FYI.
The open sided sockets are probably sold in a set only, but you might be able to borrow one from an auto parts place that does loaner tools.
Slightly cheaper option would be a crowfoot wrench set, if there is room to get in there with it. It's basically just the open head of a combination wrench (no bar or closed end) with a 3/8" or 1/2" square hole to put a socket wrench or extension through.
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Re: What size is the nut in question? (lulz)
Jul 24, 2019, 1:49 PM
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Yes, similar to that.
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Tickle_It works for a faucet manufacturer
Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 PM
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Tell me what brand/model it is so I can look it up. Butt most likely you gots to have some sort of nut/bonnet on the faucet housing that tightens it up. That's how we do ours. The male part goes in (lolutz) and then you tighten that nut or bonnet down from the outside.
Anyways, pigs would halp.
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Hmm. Usually there's a mixing valve with it.
Jul 24, 2019, 2:01 PM
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See the attached pig. I found the faucet on Amazon that has more pigs and it doesn't look like it has one, unless it's in the body of the faucet.
If it is, I would suggest looping the flex lines through the brass threading and outter nut before connecting them to the base of the faucet so you'll have more room to screw them in. They can probably start by hand but to get them tighter, you might need to get a plumbers wrench or what I used was some needle nosed plyers to get up in there to screw some of them in. It shouldn't be that hard to get to them but you may only be able to turn them like quarter turn at a time. DON'T FORGET THE DADGUM PLUMBERS TAPE TOO (I learned that the leaky hard way).
Most of them should come with instruction manuals that may help (if they have good pictures).
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###### tickle_it, you forgot to attach the pig
Jul 24, 2019, 2:03 PM
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hear's what a mixing valve usually looks like.
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Re: ###### tickle_it, you forgot to attach the pig
Jul 24, 2019, 2:08 PM
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I think it’s built in to the base. I may have to try needle nose pliers or my own homemade open ended socket. I’ll have to have a bucket ready for the grand opening...
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On 2nd thought, we also have single hole sink ones like
Jul 24, 2019, 2:17 PM
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this. They are also in the body. Our instruction manuals say to insert the flex lines and tighten by hand. I would still try to get it a lil extra snug with the needle nosers but that's just me.
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Re: On 2nd thought, we also have single hole sink ones like
Jul 24, 2019, 2:39 PM
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See, those lines are nicely designed. The nut portion of the supply line extends, purposefully, beyond the faucet housing. There’s an elongated stem that pushes that nut out into the open. It’d be easy to tighten that line with a variety of wrenches. The ones I have, the nut portion is all the way at the distal end of the supply line putting them out of reach of ordinary household tools and deep inside the faucet housing. I think a shamecock designed these things...
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Re: Your link continues to show a dog and says "sorry can't find
Jul 24, 2019, 3:05 PM
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That’s strange...it works for me. But yes, that is the model faucet.
The main reason I believe it must go on to the faucet first is the male end of the supply is not free spinning. It is stationary and attached to the water line. The other end, the female end that attaches to the supply has a free spinning nut. If I attached the female end to the supply first, there’d be no way to spin the male supply end into the faucet. The rigidity of the braided steel line would prevent it from turning.
By attaching to the faucet first, I’d just have to feed the attached supply lines through the counter opening, then attach it to the supply with the line’s free spinning nut (which prevents the line from spinning on itself).
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If it won't go in by lining it up and pushing it up in the
Jul 24, 2019, 4:26 PM
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faucet body and then twisting the flex line in order to screw it in, I'd call the POS manufacturer and ask them exactly how in the Hell you're supposed to do it.
Other choices would be to ditch that faucet and purchase a supremely built, industry leading quality commercial pre-rinse unit that substantially lacks aesthetics but will last longer than your house.
And is (somewhat) happily (partially) made by rednecks in the upstate of SC.
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this is why i only buy name brand fawsits
Jul 24, 2019, 12:39 PM
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If the male end is plastic i would return that shid. You'll end up with a $30,000 problem.
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Re: this is why i only buy name brand fawsits
Jul 24, 2019, 1:09 PM
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It’s all metal and the lines are braided steel. Like other reviews (most of them) stated, it looks quality...just poorly engineered. I’ve just installed three sinks in my house...all a piece of cake compared to this.
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I gotta nut problem too
Jul 24, 2019, 2:11 PM
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Been having pain for over 3 years now.
Speaking to your situation.....I had the same issue when I bought a faucet. I returned it and bought something that worked.
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Re: I gotta nut problem too
Jul 24, 2019, 3:09 PM
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May ultimately come to that...but I’m pretty stubborn
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Can the faucet be taken apart?
Jul 24, 2019, 3:15 PM
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The only solution I can imagine is pipe tape on the male end inside the faucet and try to snug the linenut using a long tip, needle nose pliers.
I know tools fairly well but can't imagine a tool which would do what you described. I might figure on calling the manufacture's tech line or seeing the plumbing pro at Lowes or Home Depot.
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Re: Can the faucet be taken apart?
Jul 24, 2019, 3:30 PM
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I looked at trying to take it apart but it looks to be a solid body (good I suppose). I’m going to attempt pliers and copious torquing of the braided line...then make an animal sacrifice before turning the water on.
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