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Get the facts before you argue about this junk
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Get the facts before you argue about this junk


Apr 17, 2014, 11:12 PM

1- FFRF's main issue is the that Coach Swinney got the chaplin. Not the fact that Coach is a Christian.

2- In December, The Chronicle of Higher Education reported that Swinney tells recruits on visits, "I'm a Christian. If you have a problem with that, you don't have to be here."
* He did NOT say if you arent Christian you shouldnt come to Clemson.

My little PSA. Just tired of reading people defend or debate untruths or form opinions based on events that never happened.

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FFRF has requested a lot more change than just


Apr 17, 2014, 11:16 PM

the Chaplain or the process for choosing him. They have a problem with any religious acts, for example the handing out of materials, Bibles, etc. I think you left out a lot of details.

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You are correct... I was not reffrencing all of the changes


Apr 17, 2014, 11:21 PM

they are requesting. Just that the main "concern" they had stems from Coach getting the chaplin hired.

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How do you determine it is the "main" concern?


Apr 17, 2014, 11:27 PM

They essentially issued a list of grievances. Didn't detect a hiearchy.

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Read this


Apr 17, 2014, 11:34 PM

http://ffrf.org/images/clemson_letter.pdf

Tell me what you think. Does it seem that the "concerns" stem from James Trapp?

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Re: Get ue about this junkthe facts before you arg


Apr 17, 2014, 11:18 PM

Actually, in a statement released today, FFRF said that the Chaplain and the Coach should be fired.

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You need to do more research on FFRF


Apr 17, 2014, 11:22 PM

as an organization and their complaints against Clemson.

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again, Im not trying to tell the whole story here,


Apr 17, 2014, 11:31 PM

I just felt like I was reading a lot of debates about stuff that was not true or that never happened.

Yes FFRF is an anti-Christian group. For the record, I think FFRF is exactly what is wrong with this country today.

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You do know James Trapp isn't the first team


Apr 17, 2014, 11:41 PM

chaplin? Coach Bowden also had the same position. They can be concerned but they shouldn't have the right to push to have the position removed.

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