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In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 9:59 PM
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Miami
VaTech
Boston College
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Louisville
Swofford is the common denominator.
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 10:03 PM
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Rather, have any of those teams benefitted the ACC by their joining?
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 10:15 PM
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True. And how are they supposed to benefit??
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 10:03 PM
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Rather, have any of those teams benefitted the ACC by their joining?
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 10:34 PM
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You can add FSU to that list too. They crashed and burned since becoming ACC members too albeit back in the 90's though.
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 8:34 AM
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Crashed and burned? They have won multiple multiple conference championships in the ACC and they have won a national title not to many years ago. And followed that up with a trip to the first playoffs.
They did not crash and burn until Jimbo left so 2 years ago.
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All-TigerNet [13879]
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Have South Carolina, Arkansas, Texas A&M or Missouri
Dec 21, 2019, 10:48 PM
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benefited from the SEC or contributed to the SEC?
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 10:49 PM
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TD2 - I would say they have all benefitted by cashing checks earned by FSU and now Clemson Football. They are all average to mediocre football programs - but then again, they are just a northern version of the mediocrity that exists at all the other ACC schools.
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 21, 2019, 11:12 PM
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IMO, the real winner has been the partial member, Notre Dame. They get about $6M from the ACC each year for all other sports playing in ACC competition except football.
In football, ND gets to keep TV and bowl revenue plus their contract agreement with NBC without having to give any back to the conference. Win, win for ND.
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Orange Blooded [3738]
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I thought and still believe that ND was a
Dec 21, 2019, 11:34 PM
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dipstick move that did not benefit the conference at all! Why they were even extended ANY invitation at all still mystifies me!!! Swofford's Folly!
They brought NOTHING to the table in ANY sport and are a bunch of self righteous, self important buttheads imho. Kick 'em out of the ACC!!!
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 6:20 AM
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NO!
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 7:19 AM
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Louisville during Lamar's run?
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......From joining SEC or Big 10, or Big 12 football?
Dec 22, 2019, 9:16 AM
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SEC....SC or Arkansas? Neither SC nor Arkansas gained anything by joining the SEC. Arkansas lost their historic and natural rivals, their history and their prime recruiting territory. SC did not have much to lose. Other than a short,nice but inconsequential run under Spurrier the Gamecocks have zero to show for their SEC membership. TAMU? Missouri? Same story.
Big Ten.....Maryland? Rutgers? Nebraska? Any gain at all?
Big 12......West Virginia? TCU? At least TCU got to get out of The Big East. Otherwise nothing.
There is a moral to the Expansion/League hopping Of the last few decades. There are a lot more Losers than winners. If a team is reasonably successful where they have been historically, that team should stay put. The move of leaving a league and joining a new one usually does nothing substantial for the jumpers.
Go Tigers!!
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 8:30 AM
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It's been over 20 years, but FSU benefitted greatly from joining. They were an independent. They needed to be affiliated with a conference. They needed the financial security of sharing conference revenues.
And, despite of what people try and tell you with revisionist history, the reason FSU joined the ACC instead of the SEC was not because Bobby was afraid to play against "those great teams in the SEC." It was purely a financial decision. Back when FSU joined, because of the BASKETBALL revenue generated, they would get more money from being in the ACC rather than the SEC.
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 8:48 AM
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The ACC is not making those teams not recruit. Why do you think being in the ACC has anything to do with a team not putting the resources together to field a winning team? That's like saying all citizens of the USA will fail simply because they're citizens. The fact is without the effort and resources they will probably fail. I truly hope Clemson puts more emphasis on basketball in the near future. Without a concerted effort, we will remain very average.
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 9:07 AM
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UofSC and Maryland left. That was the bigger problem.
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Re: In past 20 years, has any team benefitted from joining ACC football?
Dec 22, 2019, 9:07 AM
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UofSC and Maryland left. That was the bigger problem.
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Yea, but I’m thinking all of those schools would have
Dec 22, 2019, 9:12 AM
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similar programs if they had stayed together in the Big East.
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