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Football Update: Tommy Bowden gives his 5 foundations of character
May 5, 2012, 1:20 PM
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How about FIRED?***
May 5, 2012, 1:26 PM
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Ouch.***
May 7, 2012, 11:26 PM
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Accountability?
May 5, 2012, 2:15 PM
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Seems I remember a lot of losses being blamed on the players and taking too much personal credit for wins.
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Re: Accountability?
May 5, 2012, 7:43 PM
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EXACTLY. And he made every excuse in the world for losses.
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Re: Accountability?
May 8, 2012, 8:23 AM
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I never heard him call a player out? This is not Jim Carlen we're talking about.
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Sacrifice some Clemson $$$ and get another job***
May 5, 2012, 2:28 PM
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Re: Sacrifice some Clemson $$$ and get another job***
May 5, 2012, 6:09 PM
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This part right here killed any type of good feeling I had for TB. He used his buddies at Ark to get a bigger contract/Raise. Then it seemed like he just laid down and stop coaching. He quit got fired or what ever. Now he is using all the money he tricked Clemson out of with his bluff of going to ARK. A nice Christian man he is, my A$$. I could be wrong but, I believe other schools believe he took Clemson to the cleaners. And that is why no one has offered him a job since.
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LOL!
May 5, 2012, 2:39 PM
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Having a "deddy" that is a legend and a RichRod on your staff doesn't hurt either. Man, this is like Richard Nixon giving a speech on eithics.
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Good Post : Tommy Bowden and his 5 foundations of character
May 5, 2012, 2:54 PM
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You can disrespect a guy's personality or his win-loss record (both of which were not the best for Clemson Football in Bowden's case) and you can be unhappy about his negotiated contract, but real maturity will recognize that Bowden was and is right about life values. There are important reasons he and our current head coach have almost all of those values in common. The post is relevant and reinforces where the mindset of Dabo and his staff will be in dealing with current circumstances. These guys are helping young men become winners at life as much as setting high standards of performance on the football field.
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Though Tommy did not win as much as we wanted, he did not
May 5, 2012, 3:30 PM
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run the program into the ground. 2 of his teams finished 21st in the nation; a 3rd finished 22nd; and a 4th finished 14th. He had a 7-2 record vs So. Car. And he laid the foundation for the 2009 and 11 teams. Last years senior-dominated offensive and defensive linemen? Those were Tommy's recruits. I repeat: Tommy did not win as much as we wanted. But, let's not confuse Tommy Bowden with Tommy West.
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True dat...***
May 5, 2012, 3:56 PM
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Re: Good Post : Tommy Bowden and his 5 foundations of character
May 8, 2012, 8:27 AM
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Tommy done some great things here. Man you are one angry person
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Character? Bowden deceitfully cheated Clemson out of $4.5M
May 5, 2012, 5:18 PM
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After 9 years of generosity & loyalty from Clemson's administration, Bowden used his AD buddy at the University of Arkansas to deceive Clemson (TDP) into thinking that Arkansas had made him an offer, when in fact (as reported in the Arkansas newspapers and ESPN) Arkansas never did. Consequently Tommy duped TDP into $4.5M buyout, which Clemson paid (and which Tommy happily took).
Tommy played TDP for a fool, and Tommy's deception was perfectly legal. But it wasn't ethical and it certainly wasn't Christian behavior. It likely harmed some players' potential-NFL-careers because a post-buyout, cash-strapped Clemson couldn't afford to hire top-tier coaches.
If Bowden had real character, he wouldn't have deceived Clemson, or at least he would have refused a significant portion of the buyout, and at the VERY least, in the years since he was fired, he would have donated a significant portion back to Clemson.
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Really?
May 5, 2012, 5:56 PM
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"It likely harmed some players' potential-NFL-careers because a post-buyout, cash-strapped Clemson couldn't afford to hire top-tier coaches." the lengths some people go...
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Harper & Ford's draft # & $ under Napier same as if Morris!?***
May 6, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Greed...but no accountability.***
May 5, 2012, 7:13 PM
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Accountability, really?
May 5, 2012, 7:42 PM
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He made every excuse in the world when we would lose games.
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Schools across the country are beggin for his leadership.***
May 5, 2012, 7:47 PM
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He's right, he won some games. But not enough.***
May 5, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Re: Football Update: Tommy Bowden gives his 5 foundations of character
May 6, 2012, 1:07 PM
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CARDS huh?
I lost ALL respect for him when he went like, a weasel, to Arkansas to interview for the head coaching job when he was under contract at Clemson. You can't have it both ways. I know that is the way the game is played but where does that game fit in to his CARDS? He sounds like Lou Holtz with these phony acronyms.
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That is all either have left.***
May 6, 2012, 1:14 PM
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Re: That is all either have left.***
May 7, 2012, 9:53 AM
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Tommy Bowden was a phony con man who had a limited knowledge of football and the personality of an old shoe. In his own mind he may have been a builder of great character in young men .... but not in mine! He wrote the book on arrogance.
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What part of his high character motivated him to extort a...
May 6, 2012, 1:12 PM
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contract extension under threat of going to Arkansas knowing his job here was on the line for his lack of performance?
I don't know, ethic?
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Re: Football Update: Tommy Bowden gives his 5 foundations of character
May 7, 2012, 10:49 AM
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He said some good things. People upset about Sammy are piling on the hate. Got to take it out on somebody, I guess.
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My thoughts exactly.***
May 7, 2012, 3:08 PM
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TB was 7 and 2 against the Lamecocks! Nuff Said***
May 7, 2012, 3:41 PM
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They also sucked at that point in time.
May 8, 2012, 8:59 AM
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and many of those games came down to a FG or were too close for comfort.
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Too Bad that "C" doesn't stand for Championship
May 7, 2012, 9:56 PM
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something he never won!!!
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