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Howard's Rock case/trial/Q&A
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Howard's Rock case/trial/Q&A


Jul 22, 2015, 4:12 PM

We were the only Clemson site there today (Anderson Independent had someone but not from sports) and I sat through both the prosecution and defense cases. I am working on my PM update, but in the meantime will be glad to answer any serious questions you have. I am here for about 15 minutes or so, so fire away

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Did the accused show any emotion during the case?***


Jul 22, 2015, 4:15 PM



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Re: Did the accused show any emotion during the case?***


Jul 22, 2015, 4:17 PM

Not really. He has sat over there quiet. And in case you didn't see our tweets, he declined to testify so he never took the stand.

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With the eye witness report from his friend


Jul 22, 2015, 4:16 PM

what kind of stance did the defense take?

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Re: With the eye witness report from his friend


Jul 22, 2015, 4:18 PM

The defense tried to show the witness couldn't recall the shirt Rogers was wearing, and tried to show time stamps that maybe it wasn't Rogers that scaled the fence.

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Shirt color !?!?! Really !?!?!


Jul 22, 2015, 4:22 PM

I don't remember the color of the shirt I wore yesterday let alone the color of the shirt someone else wore two years ago.

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You'd be surprised how many people remember small


Jul 22, 2015, 4:29 PM

details in situations like that. I'm shocked the prosecution didn't prepare him for that question so he would have an answer ready. In the end, I doubt it will have any bearing on the case.

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Re: You'd be surprised how many people remember small


Jul 22, 2015, 4:42 PM

Was the defendants father showing any emotion and what was his demeanor while Winn was on the stand?

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There isn't a snowball's chance in ###### that the


Jul 22, 2015, 4:47 PM

defense attorney failed to instruct the ginger and his dad to remain stone-faced. (Not to be confused with stoned-faced after 3 pots)

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Did the prosecution ask the witness


Jul 22, 2015, 4:26 PM [ in reply to Re: With the eye witness report from his friend ]

if he could recall what color his own shirt was on that night two years ago?

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Weak defense. The witness knew Rogers. He was there


Jul 22, 2015, 5:02 PM [ in reply to Re: With the eye witness report from his friend ]

with Rogers. Remembering a shirt color is irrelevant.

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Re: Howard's Rock case/trial/Q&A


Jul 22, 2015, 4:17 PM

Is the video the only evidence?

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Re: Howard's Rock case/trial/Q&A


Jul 22, 2015, 4:18 PM

The eyewitness testimony is also evidence.

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What kind of questions....


Jul 22, 2015, 4:18 PM

did Frank Eppes ask Winn in order to discredit him?

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how do you think the jury will lean?***


Jul 22, 2015, 4:20 PM



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From the pic I saw most were


Jul 22, 2015, 4:20 PM

leaning forwards in their seats.

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Until they got tired...


Jul 22, 2015, 4:21 PM

then they leaned back

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I openly admit


Jul 22, 2015, 4:22 PM [ in reply to From the pic I saw most were ]

that I el oh el'd at this.

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Re: how do you think the jury will lean?***


Jul 22, 2015, 4:21 PM [ in reply to how do you think the jury will lean?*** ]

Hard to tell....they have Rogers at the scene, but they don't have someone that witnessed him doing the deed and they have no witnesses that saw him with a piece of the rock. They have him there, they have the witness who said Rogers climbed the wall and heard glass breaking.

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The witness also testified......


Jul 22, 2015, 4:25 PM

that Rogers specifically said he "got a piece of the rock".

It may all boil down to how credible the jury views the witness.

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If all they have is the shirt color, there's no reason to


Jul 22, 2015, 4:32 PM

believe witness credibility was injured at all.

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Where is the rock he chipped off? Recovered?


Jul 22, 2015, 4:25 PM

Did they get this back?

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Re: Where is the rock he chipped off? Recovered?


Jul 22, 2015, 4:27 PM

No and no. Never been found

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Re: Where is the rock he chipped off? Recovered?


Jul 22, 2015, 4:34 PM

Any residue from the rock on the tools found in the back of the truck? You'd think there'd be a different composition makeup in a rock from California vs masonry or even stones more found in the south-eastern US.

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Howard's Rock is a piece of white flint.


Jul 22, 2015, 5:01 PM

fairly common.

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Come on, my question was more serious than that one


Jul 22, 2015, 4:31 PM [ in reply to Where is the rock he chipped off? Recovered? ]

As soon as the ginger saw the news break with a pic of his truck, there's no way in heck anyone was going to find the piece of our rock.

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Re: Howard's Rock case/trial/Q&A


Jul 22, 2015, 4:38 PM

If you were on the jury, would your initial vote in the jury room be guilty or not guilty?

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Fathers Reaction??


Jul 22, 2015, 4:46 PM

Was the defendants father showing any emotion and what was his demeanor while Winn was on the stand?

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Did the defense call


Jul 22, 2015, 4:48 PM

Any witnesses? If so, who are they and what was their testimony?

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Can you explain your mispelling of the word sirius?***


Jul 22, 2015, 5:07 PM



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