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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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Just a quick pole....
Jul 29, 2015, 10:02 AM
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How many of your wives are willingly submissive to you (after you "made" her faithful), and do your children worship you?
Am I the odd one out for thinking this is really weird?
True joy comes from God. True joy is loving a woman and putting her first in everything. True joy is not giving her everything she thinks she wants but that which she truly wants, a husband that loves her more than he loves himself. True joy is having a woman and making her a good and faithful wife who is willingly submissive to her you because of his love for her. True joy is a houseful of children who view their faithful father as a true hero, one who has all the answers to life and holds the secret of their safety and welfare.
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Re: Just a quick pole....***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:04 AM
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True Joy
Jul 29, 2015, 10:07 AM
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^^^this guy gets it.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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I don't see any worshipping children***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:09 AM
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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Some guys these days seem to be submissive to their wife***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:08 AM
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Mrs Soze rides in the back seat and has been instructed
Jul 29, 2015, 10:11 AM
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to walk at least 3 paces behind me at all times. She's allowed 2 hours per week for personal time not spent cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping, etc.
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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You misspelled "bed of the pick up"***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:13 AM
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All-TigerNet [12066]
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FOUR DOORS!!!
Jul 29, 2015, 10:16 AM
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I would be glad to collect if
Jul 29, 2015, 10:14 AM
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she were allowed on the internet
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Re: I would be glad to collect if
Jul 29, 2015, 10:31 AM
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Hysterical.
What's your favorite dish she cooks?
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Her empanadas make it move***
Jul 29, 2015, 1:04 PM
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Can't wait to read OSF's response***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:17 AM
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Teaching her how to read is your 1st problem.***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:18 AM
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getting my boot from up your ### is going to your problem***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:23 AM
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meh***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:36 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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I'm thinking maybe my wife needs more beatings
Jul 29, 2015, 10:23 AM
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to become "willingly submissive".
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Sounds good to me...
Jul 29, 2015, 10:23 AM
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despite your twisting of his words to make it sound like something negative.
You left out the part where he said that what the woman truly wants is a "husband who loves her more than he loves himself," and that THAT is what makes her want to be "good and faithful". Now, you wouldn't disagree with that, would you?
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Disagree?
Jul 29, 2015, 11:39 AM
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He refused to even address it. I wasn't trolling I was giving honest perspective.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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Disgaree with what? Having a submissive wife
Jul 29, 2015, 11:41 AM
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or kids that worship me?
No, thanks anyway. I don't need that kind of power trip.
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Oculus Spirit [93650]
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The power is having the power to love them...
Jul 29, 2015, 11:56 AM
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more than you love yourself. That's not power, it's love.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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uh huh***
Jul 29, 2015, 12:05 PM
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step away from the drugs, dude.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:25 AM
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you lost me at submissive.
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Maybe he's really into BDSM?***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:27 AM
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The Christian life is one of submission...
Jul 29, 2015, 10:30 AM
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Here's everyone and everything we are supposed to submit to, Biblically:
1. God (James 4:7)
2. Older people (1 Peter 5:5)
3. The law (1 Peter 2:13)
4. Pastors/ministers (1 Corinthians 16:16, Hebrews 13:17)
5. Husbands (Ephesians 5:22, Colossians 3:18)
6. All fellow Christians (Ephesians 5:21)
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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Women aren't ranked very high in that life, huh?***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:31 AM
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I think they're number four.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:33 AM
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1) dog
2) pickup truck
3) shotgun
4) woman
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Re: I think they're number four.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:35 AM
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Ehhh I believe beer is #4.
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Nope, beer is number five.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:41 AM
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Without number four, who is going to bring you the beer?
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Re: I think they're number four.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:50 AM
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I've seen some #1s do this.
#5 needs to be folding laundry.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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What happens if a guy never gets married?
Jul 29, 2015, 10:43 AM
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And lets say he's not gay, just really ugly.
Since you're not supposed to have sex before marriage, I'm guessing he'd be a virgin all his life. But past that Does he just focus everything in his life on being a Christian?
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There's a half chapter on that very subject.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:46 AM
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Read 1 Corinthians 7:1-17. Answers your question fully.
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but what if someone were to believe that the bible is
Jul 29, 2015, 10:53 AM
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boolshit?
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Hmmm...maybe you're reading a different version from me.
Jul 29, 2015, 11:27 AM
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Mine doesn't say that.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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Did I miss anything?
Jul 29, 2015, 11:32 AM
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1 Corinthians 7:1-17King James Version (KJV)
7 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
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Which of these verses lead to to the conclusion
Jul 29, 2015, 11:38 AM
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"you have to get married"?
"It is good for a man not to touch a woman."
"For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I."
"But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk."
Sounds to me like he's saying it's good for some to marry, and for some not to marry.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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Looks like #2
Jul 29, 2015, 11:55 AM
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2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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And it doesn;t really say what you are supposed to do if you
Jul 29, 2015, 11:56 AM
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DON'T get married.
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Don't fornicate.
Jul 29, 2015, 12:02 PM
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If you absolutely have to stick your #### in something, get married. God doesn't want people fornicating and creating special, magical, precious little children that he will ultimately send to a fiery #### for eternity.
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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Oh they can do anything they want.
Jul 29, 2015, 12:07 PM
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Doesn't really mater what they do. They can be have the shittiest attitude and be the worst people on the planet, as long as they find God as their savior they are all set.
Makes sense to me.
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He is saying that it is OK to get married,
Jul 29, 2015, 12:02 PM
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if that is what the individual wants and needs to do. The controversy Paul was addressing was whether or not ministers of the gospel had to be virgins. (I bet our Catholic friends don't like this chapter.)
I do apologize...the verses that answer the second part of your question are later in the chapter. The unmarried do, naturally, tend to have more time for God.
32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
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So this is what ISIS is all about....?***
Jul 29, 2015, 12:05 PM
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Doesn't seem far from all that, does it?***
Jul 29, 2015, 1:07 PM
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"It is good for a man not to touch a woman."
Jul 29, 2015, 11:48 AM
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Yep. Marriage is promoted as a weakness.
Jul 29, 2015, 4:33 PM
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Friendship (non sexual intimacy) is the Highest order of connection two people can have according to the Church.
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You're only finding bliss and not true joy, aren't you?***
Jul 29, 2015, 1:11 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93650]
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Actually, a man is commanded to love his wife as Christ...
Jul 29, 2015, 11:43 AM
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does the Church. It's that faithful, unending love with creates the perfect relationship between a man and his wife.
Our first obligation to God includes our obligation to love our wives and provide for them and our family.
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Yes, and the defining feature of Christ's love
Jul 29, 2015, 11:47 AM
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is complete sacrifice of self, for the sake of the one being loved.
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Now THAT is what I call submission.***
Jul 29, 2015, 11:47 AM
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Oculus Spirit [93650]
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That's how the bible defines submission in this sense.***
Jul 29, 2015, 11:53 AM
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How does it describe your children worshipping you***
Jul 29, 2015, 12:02 PM
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Somehow you got children should
Jul 29, 2015, 12:05 PM
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"view their father as a hero, protector, and provider," into "children should worship their father".
Are you saying it's a bad thing for a father to be a child's hero, protector, and provider?
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What's a theist?***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:34 AM
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In that case, it is reasonable for you submit to no one.***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:34 AM
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"Submission" is not worship or servitude...
Jul 29, 2015, 10:38 AM
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It is just another way of saying "preferring others over self".
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Actually....
Jul 29, 2015, 10:40 AM
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It's a job that you send a submarine to do.
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Re: "Submission" is not worship or servitude...
Jul 29, 2015, 10:42 AM
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Full Definition of SUBMISSION
1
a : a legal agreement to submit to the decision of arbitrators
b : an act of submitting something (as for consideration or inspection); also : something submitted (as a manuscript)
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: the condition of being submissive, humble, or compliant
3
: an act of submitting to the authority or control of another
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I should have said "Biblical submission".
Jul 29, 2015, 10:43 AM
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Biblical submission is different from dictionary submission in the same way that Biblical love is vastly different from dictionary love.
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THERE ARE NO SUBMARINES IN THE BIBLE.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Spaceships, yes. Submarines, no.
I'm just glad I was here to clear this up for everyone this morning.
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I already knew about the spaceships... Are you sure they
Jul 29, 2015, 12:01 PM
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don't go underwater... ?
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I'm pretty positive.
Jul 29, 2015, 12:26 PM
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I mean, I watch a lot of science fiction on TV, so I have to feel like my expertise is truly beyond reproach here.
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Have you seen the documantary 'The Abyss'?
Jul 29, 2015, 12:29 PM
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Cause you are rong.
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Science + Fiction.... De Baiters paradise....***
Jul 29, 2015, 12:30 PM
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Another example is 'fearing God.'
Jul 29, 2015, 12:34 PM
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I don't know a Christian that doesn't pray. How can you talk to someone whom you fear? It's about knowing who I am in relationship to who He is. It's so simple even a child understands, that's not an accident and it merits a theological doctorate thesis.
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Maybe we should rank them.
Jul 29, 2015, 11:24 AM
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Private, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, major, colonel, and general might be a good way to determine who submits to who.
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All-In [26968]
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It can, and should happen concurrently.
Jul 29, 2015, 11:28 AM
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I've been trying to tell y'all that submitting is not about a hierarchy. I can submit to you, and you can submit to me, at the same time.
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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We can submit each other. What if I submit early, and then
Jul 29, 2015, 11:37 AM
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don't feel like submitting anymore?
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Heisman Winner [135565]
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I think it all depends on whether or not you faxed in your
Jul 29, 2015, 11:57 AM
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LOI.
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I banged your wife***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:27 AM
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Did she submit before or after you did?***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:40 AM
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I dunno, I was like 5th in line
Jul 29, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81048]
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filthy 5ths***
Jul 29, 2015, 10:53 AM
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