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FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:14 PM
 

 
Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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So it begins.***

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:16 PM
 




My first thought as well...

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:51 PM
 

...but I hope not.

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Surprised it has lasted this long really.***


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Or ends, as the case may be.***

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:38 PM
 



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Indeed, the nanny-state left has gained a foothold at CU

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:54 PM
 

VP for student affairs, suck it up buttercup, we're grownups and we can handle a 4-5ft retaining wall. Frick!!!

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She's the same one who wouldn't allow CU employees


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:46 PM
 

in student affairs to sign any type of petition. Retired, and they brought her back.

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Re: She's the same one who wouldn't allow CU employees


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 5:44 AM
 

They should have left her alone in her retirement.

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Re: She's the same one who wouldn't allow CU employees

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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 11:19 AM
 

OMG, I spent plenty of time in her office back in the day. Back then she was Almeda Rogers Boettner. So glad to see that she has not mellowed with age. UGH! She was dead set opposed to any form of fun.

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Re: So it begins.***


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 10:42 PM
 

Just a matter of time....


Notice how this was never an issue for the decades we


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 10:29 AM
 

have gone on the field. But now that ESPN has made it one of their missions to end this tradition it has become some great safety hazard.

Heck, for many in the lower rows, it is actually the quickest way out of the stadium instead of everyone exiting through those portals.


Ever since the SEC instituted its field-rush ban


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 6:34 PM
 

. . . fans on the field has become a big no-no among the scolds of college football. It is an unfortunate reality that in the college-football media universe, everything revolves around the SEC. Just look at the way Twitter lights up in indignation after every big game at Death Valley these days - "Bush league", "disgraceful", "embarrassing" & "trashy" are just a few of the epithets that get tossed about. I may be mistaken, but I think Clemson is the only Power 5 school that still allows something like this. The SEC & Pac-12 impose fines on schools that fail to prevent fans from going on the field. For sure, we've been doing this for decades, but with the rising profile of our school & football program, it's getting more scrutiny & negative press than it ever did before. At this point, all it will take is 1 more incident (a serious injury or some drunk fans verbally or physically assaulting an opposing team's players or coaches) for it to be banned entirely, either by the CU administration or by the ACC.


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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:18 PM
 

Easily solved. Have our fans meet in east end zone not at mid field so players can exit the field.


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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 7:30 AM
 

So let me get this straight. We now have thirty extra second to rush to three entry points. In the hill area to be able to trample those at the front of the line. Makes sence to me. Why not put steps at the end of each isle and wait the 25 seconds( a great idea)? This is a great tradition at Clemson. Please, please don't let us lose it.


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aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:24 PM
 

when they ban it all together "well they did warn us" will be the phrase used to justify it


Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:29 PM
 

I remember the year they tore down the goalposts after the USC game, broke the leg of one of the students that climbed it and injured one of the cops that was trying to secure the area. Next season we had the collapsable posts. It makes since, but might be the first step down a slippery slope to just getting rid of it. probably would be easier/less wall hopping if they added a few entry points, particularly on the home side, though I suppose they are also worried about the security of all the items in the team/bench area that might be of value to someone with sticky fingers. hopefully this is not a tradition i see disappear in my lifetime. Love taking my son onto the field after games.

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Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:32 PM
 

Entry points from the stands is an excellent idea, and hopefully something they do to help preserve the tradition.

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Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:57 PM
 

I agree with this move. I have seen the crowd,from both sides of the t.v. screen.

They look ridiculous on t.v. pushing everybody. If they some of them just had a bit of common sense and respect.


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Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 5:34 AM
 

I was at that game where they tore the goal post down. I also remember helping hauling it through the streets before ultimately tossing the goal post into the big water fountain in front of the library. It was great!! That's mostly what I remember that night. I also remember the avalanche of bodies that where flying down the hill after the game. Bodies were trampled, people were smothered, it was utter chaos.


Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 5:49 AM
 

Depends on how old you now are and your life expectancy. I believe we just got notified that elimination of the tradition of fans gathering on the field at Clemson is soon to be a thing of the past, all done in the name of safety, fairness and diversity, I'm sure (not).

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Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 10:24 PM
 

Glad to get the TD from the idiot who, obviously, isn't capable of an intelligent dialog. Please take me off your list of people who read my posts, or to clarify in case you have trouble with comprehension, please ignore me in the future. You have nothing I want to share anything with, and if you will let me know who your are, I will ignore you, too. Oh, and by the way, how did the new rules work out for you on Saturday?

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Actually you're wrong it was after the FSU game where

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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 7:40 AM
 

we tore down the goal post that the collapsible ones were installed for the 2004 season. I was at both games and I stayed out of the frenzy of people tearing down the posts at the USC game in 2002. It was sight to see from the stands, one I'll never forget. I joined the crowd on the field for the FSU game in 2003. That was a very intense moment, when you're on the field in the kind of crowd. Also something I'll never forget.

I do believe they've been indicating in previous games that there is a 30 sec window after the game before fans are allowed to enter the field from the gates at the east endzone. This isn't new. I hope the tradition remains but I also hope people are responsible and don't trample others trying to get a high five from a 19 year old


Re: Actually you're wrong it was after the FSU game where


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 8:11 AM
 

Glad someone got it right.

The FSU event was hilarious to watch. The east end zone took forever to tear down, it was chaos and no one could figure out what to do. The west end zone snapped nearly instantly even though they didn't start really working on it until 10 minutes later. I figured some engineering students got the west end zone crowd organized to torque it off properly.

Then the collapsible goal posts came on 2004. It was sad but honestly, it had to be done. Not doing so could be considered negligent and subject the school to lawsuits.

Also, the ones Clemson installed are a LOT nicer than the ones at BC. It was embarassing watching BC's come down so awkwardly - like they were a cheap Walmart version.


Re: aka they are conditioning fans to accept it..


Posted: Oct 15, 2016 10:52 AM
 

Makes "Sence". As in common "Sense".

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Rotsa Ruck with that one...

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:33 PM
 

....put barbed wire on the walls and guard towers...maybe landmines and German Shepherds would help too or maybe live tigers...yeah, that's the ticket!

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Hopefully...


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:27 PM
 

you're the first escorted out after jumping the wall. I'll be there to cheer for ya.

Go Tigers!

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Re: Rotsa Ruck with that one...

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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 5:51 AM
 

All in the name of liberalism and "diversity". I knew our nation has sunk, but I hoped our university wouldn't get sucked down with it.

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Geez, what's this got to do with political ideology?


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 5:06 PM
 

I'm against nanny-state micromanagement of peoples' personal decisions whether it's imposed by the left or by the right. Whatever, I thought is was conservatives who were for strict law & order.

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for keeping this tradition alive. It's been going on for decades with only a few rare incidents. But with the rising national profile of our football program & university, it's important to understand that we are getting more national scrutiny over this than ever before. The pressure to end this is mounting, & it will take only one more serious injury, incident or complaint from another school before Clemson is forced to end it for good.


Re: Geez, what's this got to do with political ideology?


Posted: Oct 15, 2016 11:07 AM
 

The universe is "ruled" by "law and order".
Whether we believe that is irrelevant.
If one's attitude is to not be ruled over...then that attitude alone is a form of lawlessness,

Try defying the "law of Gravity". Was this law created by conservatists? It does not matter if you Agree with gravity or not. At some point you will obey it and hit the ground......silly post!

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Re: Geez, what's this got to do with political ideology?


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 10:29 PM
 

Please! Just like our prayers over the PA system prior to our games are taboo, as well (last time i checked, which was Saturday in my seats), but we still had a good prayer over the stadium PA system. It is high time some of us took on the challenge without fear of consequences from a small group who never fought for anything in their lives.

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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:34 PM
 

It's a shame that the ones who are on the field giving their all for 60 minutes can't talk to their friends on the opposing team and chat before people surround them. When the players and coaches say something about it, it's a problem


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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:39 PM
 

Hopefully the fans will respect Clemson University as well as the players & coaches enough to follow these safety measures. I think it is great that Clemson allows fans on the field but I do feel that it looks disrespectful to visiting teams when some fans rush the field too quickly after the game. Be safe, appreciate the opportunity and GO TIGERS!


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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:42 PM
 

:(


LMFAO.....so let me get this right....the last 19 games that

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:45 PM
 

teams have lost in Death Valley they want to hang out in the center of the field shaking hands?! Yeaaaahhhh okkkkk...also good luck with those new policies....I will be jumping over the side walls as soon as the game is over. People crack me upppppp....Let's change what has been fine since dirt.


Re: LMFAO.....so let me get this right....the last 19 games that

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:47 PM
 

You're the reason we're having the problem and you're completely oblivious to it. Your me first attitude is the problem.

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I promise I have only stepped on 7 little kids in 30 years

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:48 PM
 

No the problem is people like you that have to over analyze everything.


Re: I promise I have only stepped on 7 little kids in 30 years

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:52 PM
 

I hope you get arrested for blatantly disregarding and disrespecting a tradition that Clemson is working to preserve.

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bah bah bah sheep...hey bro...newsflash....they have tried

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:55 PM
 

the 30 second rule in past....ssshhhh don't tell anyone but you can not stop 83,362 people from doing that all at once.


Re: bah bah bah sheep...hey bro...newsflash....they have tried

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:57 PM
 

Sheep follow edicts that don't make sense. This makes sense.

Also, since you're obviously remedial:

e·dict
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noun
an official order or proclamation issued by a person in authority.

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liberals are so clueless....and funny thing is they do not

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 7:58 PM
 

even know that they stumble through the world like that....lol


Re: liberals are so clueless....and funny thing is they do

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:00 PM
 

lol...goes straight to political affiliation and couldn't be further from the truth. Trolls gonna troll.

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No, but you can stop the first few over and hit them with

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:03 PM
 

stadium bans in addition to fines for being selfish imbeciles.

Be respectful. It is and always has been a gathering at the paw. That's important to keep considering the SEC outright bans it in addition to other schools who trade off on the liability.

It always bugged me when announcers would talk about us "rushing" the field after a win, when it's something we've been doing forever win or lose. If we abuse it we're going to lose a wonderful element of Clemson football. Why the hurry?

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Exactly. Well said.***

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I would opt to see them go straight to the taser myself

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 11:21 PM
 

I'd get a kick out of watching him flop around like a fish.

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Lol, +1.***

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Re: LMFAO.....so let me get this right....the last 19 games that

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:15 PM
 

Actually I remember and I know its on film CJ Spiller wanted to shake Bobby Bowden's hand some years ago and as CJ moved towards him one of our screaming fan ran right between them, oblivious to the moment and his rudeness, and it looked like CJ had disgust on his face as he backed off.

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so, by waiting 30 seconds....

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:47 PM
 

there will be no rush of people all at the same time? OK! Pretty sure it will cause more of a backup and a faster rush than before.

People really don't think these things out.


Re: so, by waiting 30 seconds....

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:03 PM
 

I think it has been well thought out. 30 seconds is time enough for coaches and players to shake hands and some to get to the interview area before the crowd rushes the field. limiting the access points allows the equipment and the opposing team to leave the field if they want to.


Re: LMFAO.....so let me get this right....the last 19 games that


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:56 PM
 

I think security will escort you off the field... lotsaluck.
Security has their orders, it would be silly of you to get arrested for assaulting a security official.


LOL they'll taze you.***


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:59 PM
 



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There's something in these hills.


Re: LOL they'll taze you.***


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:06 PM
 

I doubt that, but if a fan became violent they might be banned from the stadium for the rest of the season or forever.... The stadium is not a public space, anyone can be banned from the stadium.


Then don't come on here crying when your jumping doesn't go


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:58 PM
 

as you plan.

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dumbest thing ever written...we all have been "jumping" onto the field


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 1:41 AM
 

since the 90's. Never gotten hurt once. Yahknowwhy?!? We're freaking grown-up enough to know how to scale down a 5ft wall.
I guess they should have removed that actual wall we had to scale in Basic. Way too unsafe and risky.

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Re: dumbest thing ever written...we all have been "jumping" onto the field

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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 11:15 AM
 

Ppl got hurt at the Louiville game. That's why they're enforcing this now. Keep it up though. Soon enough it'll be banned altogether thanks to know it all's like you.


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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:35 PM
 

Good luck with that.

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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:35 PM
 

Good luck with that.

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You just need to worry about PETA protesting...

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:46 PM
 

...chickens being held in inhumane shower curtain cages.

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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:50 PM
 

No one wants to really rush the field for a nc state win. It will happen but not in mass as it would when we have big wins, against the Louisville's and FSU's of the world.

If you're hoping fans aren't going to rush the field after a win like Louisville, you're crazy.

Can't lock up 20,000 people

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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:09 PM
 

They do not have to lock up 20000 people they only have to lock up the few that come over the walls, and they it will stop. They then only have to control the access points.


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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:18 PM
 

Ok so i don't think rushing the field against a team we just blew out really comes into this "dispute of opinions. " *But* of we win say an epic game (ie on the level of Notre Dame or Louisville this year) they'll have to taze me. Then 80+ thousand will pass over me.


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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:24 PM
 

Also I also would lay down my field rushing aggression, if and only if the god forsaken woo hoo is abolished. So athletic department do we have a treaty so to speak?


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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:24 PM
 

Also I also would lay down my field rushing aggression, if and only if the god forsaken woo hoo is abolished. So athletic department do we have a treaty so to speak?


I'll be the first...

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:31 PM
 

to step on your head after you've been tazed. And of course, after I enter the field by the appropriately designated entry point.

Go Tigers!


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This****


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 5:26 AM
 

I'm not a wall jumper, but this is what I've been trying to say

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I truly believe this could work as planned if they would

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:56 PM
 

change it from 30 seconds to 25 seconds for the wait. It would thus mirror the "most exciting 25 seconds" of the hill entrance, but after the game for the fans to enter the field instead. Seems like a traditional hook that could more likely help people honor the "pause" and make it work.

It kinda stinks when the coaches can't meet up squarely afterwards and players gibe. They'll find something that works but it's a good idea to have some parameters for sportsmanship and safety reasons.

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Re: I truly believe this could work as planned if they would


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 8:59 PM
 

After wins like this weekend, that's one thing.

After wins like Louisville...well...you can't stop nature

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The waiting doesn't bother me as much as the ban on jumping down


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:01 PM
 

from the wall. Do you honestly think people will wait in line at a minuscule few locations to get out there?!? If I break my ankle, it's on ME!!!

BTW, I like the 25sec idea you've got there. Get the crowd to countdown. One last roar for the players to hear from tigernation!

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True about the wall on many fronts. Not enough entry


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:06 PM
 

points in their plan. Stick a few monitors around and ask fans to be mindful of others when getting over. With a controlled delay period that probably solves a lot of the issues we're having.

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At least CU won't be sued now by morons jumping the wall....

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:09 PM
 

Actually, morons still could sue despite the disclaimer and signs, I suppose. Jump away! Jump high! And photo bomb! And trample kids! That'll help keep the field stay open...

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Will they enforce with weapons or brutality....?

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:03 PM
 

Asking for a friend ??


This has to be done.

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:05 PM
 

Although most fans are not those who cause any problem, there will be those few who do.

The goal posts were an easy example. They kept tearing them down and so they had to install the collapsible posts. If that didn't happen, who know, Mike Williams might not have been injured and Clemson would have won a national title and Watson would have won his Heisman Trophy. It's a butterfly effect.

This security measure is a good thing. We don't want to wait until another bad thing to happen first before doing something.


### are you talking about? Did you really just try to


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:07 PM
 

pin Mike's neck on people rushing the field?


he didn't "pin" it, he said "who knows"

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:16 PM
 

Reading is comprehensive.

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He was linking it to fans not heeding calls to not tear down

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:36 PM
 

goalposts, not rushing the field, which is a fair assertion. Mike Williams likely does not break his neck in Game One last year had we not had to install collapsible goalposts with their squared bases due to fans ignoring requests not to tear them down, which at Clemson is even more dangerous due to the fact that we allow so many fans onto the field after games.

Goalposts being torn out and falling into said crowd on the field, however, is part of what led to the adjustment. So in a way, yes - allowing fans on the field actually inadvertently contributed to Mike Williams hitting a hard squared off goalpost and causing a break whereas a rounded traditional goalpost would have just jarred him. And if he had played all year it's plausible that DW4 wins the Heisman and we win the Natty.

So yes, fans on the field after games may very well have ultimately cost DW4 the Heisman and Clemson a national championship last year. Crazy stuff.

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The idiotic design of the goalposts is not he fault of fans

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:48 PM
 

with that massive square base.
They were a product of an overreaction and a stupid idea imho.

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BC had collapsible goal posts last week and they

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 10:06 PM
 

Had regular bases not the huge square ones like we have.

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so if Mike had played at BC his neck would have been alright


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 11:42 PM
 

even if their fans gathered at the Paw?


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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 6:05 AM
 

Why do they need a collapsable goal post. There is very little for them to celebrate other than the game finally being over and the beat down to cease.

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If if's and's & but's were nuts...

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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 12:29 PM
 

Jesus H Christ. The goal post would still be in the same spot! If bull frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their butts when they jump,either. Reaching, really far here.....


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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:07 PM
 




Wait...


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:29 PM
 

Do people other than little kids and their accompanying parents still charge the field?

Why tho?

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:32 PM
 

This is Frank Howard: You keep your filthy feet out of my stadium until you rub that rock.


Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 9:46 PM
 

I hate someone got injured but we have been doing this for a long time and nobody has been killed. Let's not dumb down this tradition of rushing the field. I did it when I was 12 and I let my kids do it when they were 12 and we all survived.


Like everything else, a few will ruin it for everyone.


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 10:29 PM
 

Clemson is forced to protect itself in this litigious era.

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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 10:54 PM
 

Only 3 injuries when 18,000 fans come crushing together in a happy hodge podge ?
I'd say that is a win . I hosestly would have thought the injury number would have been at least in the double figures range .

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So those that sit near the "access" points will


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 11:05 PM
 

Have to now wair for the bottleneck to clear before they go home?


Does thus apply to espn as well?


Posted: Oct 13, 2016 11:10 PM
 

Just curious.

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Re: Does thus apply to espn as well?


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 6:08 AM
 

They won't rush our field. Now, if we were an ESecheatPN team, that would be different.

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Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games

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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 7:07 AM
 

Before they ban it, they'll figure out a way to tax it. (Being a state government school). (o;

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How will it be enforced?


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 7:47 AM
 

And when will it not be allowed any longer?

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It will be announced over the PA system like it always has


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 7:49 AM
 

been the last 10 yrs and they'll be yellow vested stadium event staffers standing around the field, like it always has been the last 10 yrs.


Re: How will it be enforced?


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 7:50 AM
 

clemson is a school built on tradition. it will never go away unless someone finally does something really stupid. which could happen i guess with the generation we have now.

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If they are suing the school, terminate them as Students


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 8:29 AM
 

-Doc

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


EVERYONE rush the field...they can't stop us all!***


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 9:23 AM
 

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Unfortunately, i think this is a necessary measure.


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 11:37 AM
 

While most of the gatherings at the paw are pretty mild and safe, they quickly become full-fledged field rushes for games like Louisville.

There IS a middle ground here where we can preserve a tradition while also making it safer and more organized.


Fear is that this will start us on slippery slippery slope


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 4:46 PM
 

. . . toward ending the practice entirely.

I don't have any inside information, but I take it from the press release that it was done partially in response to outside pressure - whether from opposing teams' coaches & officials or from ESPN. Yes, all of us Clemson Tiger fans know that we've been doing it this way for decades & that for the most part it's never been a problem. But . . .

Ever since the SEC instituted its "no field rush" rule (in 2001 or 2002 I think) & began fining schools for allowing it to happen, "field rushing" has gradually come to be regarded a big no-no among the football scolds. And we all know that in college football media universe, everything revolves around the SEC. We know we're not actually "rushing" the field at all, but that's not the way it looks at a glance on TV. If anyone should have any doubts about this perception, just look at the way Twitter lights up in indignation every time we have a big, nationally televised game in Death Valley: "Bush league", "disgraceful", "embarrassment" & "trashy" are just a few of the epithets that get tossed about. To my knowledge, Clemson is the only school among the Power 5 conferences that still opens the field to the fans after the game. One has to suspect that the "powers that be" in college football have been pressuring Clemson to end this tradition. One also has to suspect that Clemson administrators have come to believe that it makes us look bad on TV & that they would gladly end the practice if it weren't for the insistence of us fans. And so perhaps they have settled on a pretext & a gradualist approach toward ending it.

Two things we can do. First, speak out. Second, let's maintain the tradition in big numbers tomorrow & from here on out, while taking special care to do it in an orderly & respectful way.


Absolute load of garbage!!


Posted: Oct 14, 2016 12:23 PM
 

Wow! So begins the end!


Re: FB Update: Clemson to enforce safety measures after football games


Posted: Oct 15, 2016 11:12 AM
 

Lol at trying to stop 40,000 people from rushing the field .

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Its over already and all that is left is the crying


Posted: Oct 15, 2016 11:21 AM
 

Sadly it isn't so much the tradition is dangerous it's that people are now dangerous. I grew up in a world where we had our hunting rifle in the window of our truck at school. No one ever even dreamed of using that in a fight let along mass murder of other students. Times have changed. Games in the 90's when I first started going it wasn't as much of a push as it was everyone being patient and entering the field. Late games, drunk students and fans and peoples overall disrespect is solely responsible for this. Not to mention Clemson suddenly has a "new" fan base due to our recent successes and these people know nothing of our valued traditions rooted in honor and respect. Just look at the trash everywhere after a game. #### anyone who throws trash down like I have seen lately


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