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Don't know if I can afford football tickets next year.....

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:20 PM
 

because my health insurance is going up by $30 a week as of Jan. 1. That's $1,560 a year. My wife's health insurance is going up $20 per week. That's another $1,040 a year for a total of $2,600 a year. I will remember that when I vote Tuesday.

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I Pray The Majority Of America Feels That Way!!!***

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:27 PM
 




Re: I'm right there with you!***

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:47 PM
 

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It goes up every year. This year, not as much as most

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:29 PM
 

for me and most others. The growth in health care costs has slowed down the last several years.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:33 PM
 



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Re: It goes up every year. This year, not as much as most


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:52 PM
 

not sure what palnet you are on... go buy insurance as an individual...see how much it goes up each year...


Been doing it for 12 years.***

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:58 PM
 



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I have been buying for my ten to fourteen employees


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:58 PM
 

for the last ten years or so .

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As a small business owner, I was prepared for the...

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:52 PM
 

worst after the constant mantras of doom and gloom about obama care that you hear all the time on fox news. But after ten or twelve years of geometric increases in health insurance premium costs, this years increase is the smallest yet. And when combined with the small tax credit I got , and then the nice refund from the carrier for unused health care payments, this is the best year I have had in a long time. My bookkeeper told me the other day that if Obamacare is repealed , we will have to seriously consider dumping health ins for our employees , which i would not want to do if i can help it.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:21 PM
 



"We establish no religion in this country, we mandate no belief. Nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate." ~Ronald Reagan


Re: As a small business owner, I was prepared for the...

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:06 PM
 

Obamacare has not even taken affect yet.


Re: As a small business owner, I was prepared for the...

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:21 PM
 

Also ask about maternity coverage! Obamacare will not take full affect until 2014 if its not repealed. Also do you provide healthcare for your prt time employees? But it will also depend on how many employees you have. If you hit the # of employees mark then you will be forced to provide healthcare to every one of them not just full time. Also you your premiums per employee will go up because of forced contraceptives and birth control charges you will pay out of pocket for your female employees. Furthermore your company could be all forced into only using a specific doctor, not the doctor of your choice. Furthermore there are huge regulations on doctors so much so that it will prevent many young people from wanting to put the time and effort in to become "great" doctors. Price of prescriptions will rise because of the strict regulations put on pharmaceutical companies. Taxes on your business will sky rocket because the money to pay for Obamacare has to come from somewhere. Medicare takes a huge hit and the elderly will have to pay more out of pocket which they cannot afford because they are already on a fixed income. He "freeloaders" will increase by about 25% because college students will fall under this. Heir parents will realize that their premiums will drop because the government will pick up the check. As of right now Medicaid picks up the check for the lower class, which are proven to "abuse" the system the most. Obamacare actually promotes more people to receive these benefits.


Forcing someone to do something is socialism.

Letting people have a choice is Freedom!


Re: As a small business owner, I was prepared for the...

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:39 PM
 

Further more once these companies are forced into health care do you really believe a private business will just eat the cost?? No the cost of doing business will sky rocket because the price of Obamacare will be passed on to the consumers and tax payers! Every product you buy for your business or for your personal use will go up as much as75% in some experts eyes. Obamacare will send this country towards the way a Greece. And once we hit 20 trillion in debt we will reach our GDP wich means that no one will lend us anymore money. At that point the only way to cut the debt is inflation. Basically the dollar will be worth about half of what it is now. Which will cause major economic depressions, not just here but world wide. Also these kind of regulations will all but destroy entrepreneurship. Obama truly want a country that is completely dependant on the government. Equality is how he is selling it. The problem with that is there is no such thing as equality. It's a myth. A person that dropped out of high school and has no skill set what so ever does not and never will have the same value of a Doctor or a extricate engineer. But Obama believes that the drop out and the do tor should have the same income.



If you really want to bring down health care cost then the first step is to deregulate health insurance. Let these companies battle for your business across state lines. The truth is the government cannot save us only private enterprise can, but we have to stop regulating them to death.


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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:55 PM
 

Also if Obamacare is such a great idea then why did all of elected federal officials opt out of it??????


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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:08 PM
 

As much as I detest getting into political debates, Socialism is most certainly not forcing someone to do something. I'm not incredibly happy with the current administration either, but at least offer true critique of policies and plans instead of the typical *socialism is bad! Obama is Socialism, 'Merica* hurrah.


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Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:04 AM
 

So you defend "socialism" but in no way can rebate any fact that I stated. Hitler had socialism and forced his citizens to do many things. You sir are wrong. But let's put aside your definition of "socialism" and discuss every "FACT" I posted about!!!!!


It hasn't taken full effect yet.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:38 PM
 

Things like making insurers must us 80%? Of premiums for services, etc are in place. I think it mostly just the insurance mandate that isn't in full effect.


Re: It hasn't taken full effect yet.


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:44 PM
 

Small effects have taken place, but nothing that would produce any change in health car cost for providers. Preexsisting conditions are not even struck down. Name one program that the government has ever run that has worked out????


Re: It hasn't taken full effect yet.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:02 AM
 

FEMA is working pretty well for the northeast.

You really need to give it all a rest. Go watch a channel *other* than foxnoise for a few minutes. Or better yet, go enjoy some sunshine somewhere not near a radio or TV.

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FEMA prevents local authorities and the private sector

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:58 AM
 

from accomplishing anything until they get approval.

Funny the same people clamoring against FEMA during the Bush have now suddenly changed their views.


Re: FEMA prevents local authorities and the private sector

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:15 AM
 

You do realize the difference is that now FEMA is run by people with actual emergency experience, not the idiots and sycophants (and horse fair judges) that Bush installed. FEMA was enough of a disaster in its own right for 8 years, much less when taxpayers actually needed help from them during hurricanes.

Now that competent people are running FEMA even Chris Christie had to admit that it's working pretty well.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:56 PM
 

What's really funny is Obama said for the north east to get help that "government needed to get out of the way"! Only if he would truly realize this!


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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:23 PM
 

That's the beautiful thing. He's complaining about his current rates when Obamacare doesn't even go into effect for a few more years.


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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:13 PM
 

Come back and talk to us AFTER it takes effect. The best you will see is now. We had our meetings at work about benefits where some of Odumbass care was discussed. I can promise you it WILL get worse. So go ahead and vote for the idiot again. You will then have 4 years(if you are lucky enough to survive the economics)to deal with his dumbazz again.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:56 PM
 

Nice try. I sell insurance for a living. Nobody in insurance is for Obabma care. And it has not been implemented yet. Just wait!


Re: It goes up every year. This year, not as much as most


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:08 PM
 

That's because people can't afford it and don't go to the doctor like they use to. The ones who get it free go when they have gas and drives everybody elses costs up. With Odumbass Care it will only get worse.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:37 PM
 



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Re: It goes up every year. This year, not as much as most


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:53 PM
 

Not sure what planet you live on. All Insurance has gone up and Obama careis gonna kill us.mak it down.


The rate of growth in average health care premiums is DOWN.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:33 PM
 

Check your facts. Your isolated experience may be the result of the kind of coverage or provider you've selected, and is not indicative of the nationwide health insurance market in terms of the rate of growth YTY.

Full disclosure: I already voted for Obama, and I'd do so again gladly. I may not agree with every plank of his platform (being somewhat conservative by nature and birth), but I believe he has real convictions and a desire to do right. His opponent is still trying to figure out what he believes in.


A desire to do right...this is the problem. Right for him is

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:37 PM
 

wrong for the country, unless you are fortunate enough to be taken care of by uncle sugar.

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Re: A desire to do right...this is the problem. Right for him is

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:45 PM
 

I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this point. First of all, "uncle sugar" does not take care of me--I work more than full-time, and make enough that I'm not among the vilified "47 percent". I work in the private sector as a business consultant and get to see what lots of American companies have to deal with in terms of regulations, compliance, and red tape. Government obviously isn't the solution to our problems, but it has a role to play, especially when it comes to protecting our most vulnerable citizens. The quality of life for all Americans deteriorates when people live in abject poverty with no hope of advancement or social mobility within our midst.


Re: A desire to do right...this is the problem. Right for him is


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:58 PM
 

no one is trying to drop any services for those that need it...Obama is going to drop Medicare/Medicade and you will wait for 6 months or a year for MRI or seeing a specialist for cancer or any other major illness because his "medical board" will be deciding who gets what servise ...not your Dr. not a good plan...


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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:21 PM
 



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Re: A desire to do right...this is the problem. Right for him is


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:01 PM
 

no one is trying to drop any services for those that need it...Obama is going to drop Medicare/Medicade and you will wait for 6 months or a year for MRI or seeing a specialist for cancer or any other major illness because his "medical board" will be deciding who gets what servise ...not your Dr. not a good plan...


Can you see Russia from your house?

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:09 PM
 

You are so representative of the current state of the Republican party.

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Wait, Obama the socialists is going to drop

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:13 PM
 

the biggest socialize programs of Medicare and Medicaid? He's going to eliminate Socialist Security too?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What are you? Some sort of commie?

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No it is not there are 1500 owners of the franchise I am in

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:48 PM
 

Where our blue cross blue shield plans are all going up an average 18%. Plus we employee about 80k people whose insurance is going up that much. The only ones that might be going down are the "emergency" low level plans. Any good insurance plan is sky rocketing. But that was part of the plan to "tax" the Cadillacs plans and share that with the poor.


Re: Since Obamacare isn't fully in force, how's that free


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:15 PM
 

market approach working out for ya?? Not to good it appears!!


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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:25 PM
 

Free market works great hen it's really free. Obama has regulated businesses so much that they can barely operate. Open up drilling, keystone pipeline and deregulate fracking those 3 things will create 100,000s of jobs. Well paying jobs. But when you decide to stop private industry from working so you can give trillions to your buddies that are working on green energy then you kill free markets.


Re: Since Obamacare isn't fully in force, how's that free


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:04 AM
 

There are plenty of places that there is a truly "free" market. Most of africa, for instance, has little-to-no government interference in the economy. That's working out pretty well for them, no?

Are you intentionally being this obtuse?

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Re: Since Obamacare isn't fully in force, how's that free


Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:00 AM
 

Funny how you want to split hairs over "free market" but have no insight over anything my post stated about creating jobs.


Re: The rate of growth in average health care premiums is DOWN.


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:53 PM
 

Obama has one goal...to bring down the USA to the lowly European status in the world...nothign else...


Definitely not true for Medicare supplemental insurance so

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:30 PM
 

don't ASSUME what you think is true for others!!

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You can not hav one conservative Bon in you body if you vote

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:33 PM
 

Fo Obama. His "convictions" are an agenda to Change the greatest country this earth has ever seen. He uses lingo and marketing slogans to cover what he is trying to do. Every aspect of his life from his father, his church, his friends, his mentors and his "czars" has formed his agenda. I have not heard one thing about him that says conservative. Do you realize that Romney has given more in dollars and % of dollars to charities than Obama has paid in taxes? If Obama really believed in helping people why are his and Biden's giving both under 5% every year? I think Biden gave less than 1% of his income away last year. And republicans are cold hearted?


Wow, I guess I failed typing class


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:36 PM
 

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:37 PM
 



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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:50 PM
 



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I call Bu11sh1t Check OUT the graph

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:17 PM
 

hmmm



Looks like Bush had them declining and now they are increasing under Obummer

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:29 PM
 



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I'm glad all those trillions in debt are treating you nicely


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:26 PM
 

I'm sure your kids will thank you for that one day when they are paying it back.

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Re: The rate of growth in average health care premiums is DOWN.


Posted: Nov 3, 2012 1:08 AM
 

Claw, I agree 100% that people need help from the government! The problem is that the government has failed these people by making them dependent on the government. Instead of teaching these people "how to fish" we have (has a government) decided that " you know how to fish, so you catch the fish and give it to them". It's a disservice to the lower income to let generation after generation believe and live off of government imposed benefits. I am in favor of welfare, because. I truly believe this is the greatest country on planet Earth!!! But I also believe that these benefits should only be for short term only! I have met too many that have lived off of the government with only working 10-15 hours a week even when asked to work more. Now Obama is trying even harder to make everyone dependant on the government so he can begin re-distribution of wealth.

http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/

This is just one example. Also if you get a "friend" to sign up you receive "extra" minutes!!


Re: I Pray The Majority Of America Feels That Way!!!***


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:35 PM
 

The majority is too stupid to realize it.

Plus you're rich and what's a few extra dollars. Somebody else helped you make those dollars anyway

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Chicken chit Libby td me


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:30 PM
 

And doesn't have the nads to at least make a response.

Vote early and often

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+1 to cancel it out***


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:54 AM
 




I paid $1500 a month for my family and it's going up 18%


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:44 PM
 

Oh and I am self employed with 35 employees. Do you think I will keep all 35 people Obama? Do you really. Do you even Care? If have to increase my insurance plus start paying 4k a year for my employees something has to give.


Mine is skyrocketing too. I'll trim some employees also

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:47 PM
 

It's just not worth it. Outsourcing seems to be a better idea. A lot of my competition outsources to mexico and india. I don't want to, but more money less headache.

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I am researching staffing firms


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:53 PM
 

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Re: I talked with a small business owner, at the gym today,


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:33 PM
 

and he said he was going to have let 7 of his 23 employees go.


Re: Hope your employees see your post

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:11 PM
 

You must be a sorry POS employer!!


Re: Re: The rate of growth in average health care premiums is DOWN.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:00 PM
 

That's certainly what talk radio would like for you to believe.


You gonna vote for the guy who came up with Romneycare?***

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:05 PM
 



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^This.***


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:09 PM
 



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Are you going to vote for the guy who in his own book

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:10 PM
 

Talks about breaking down the US so we are not a "world power" any more? And a guy in his own words says we need to decrease the wealth of our country and send it to other countries? Is that the guy who should be leading the United States? Really? And this is not talk radio points, how about doing some of your own research on the messiah!


research?

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:15 PM
 

LOL.

you have no idea.

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You are crazy! You have to be not very bright to think

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:45 PM
 

That like this, creating these crazy welfare programs and trying tax and regulate the "engine"of this great country. Do you realize our country became the greatest and wealthiest lead poverty Steichen country in be world in less than about 1/100th of the time than most of these other countries have been around? And it has has not been built on taxing the crap out of business and giving it to others. Go and answer these questions.

When did the Department of Education start?
When did Income Tax start?
When did Social Securty become part of the general fund?
When did the CRA start?, What president forced banks to use the CRA to give loans that everyone new were bad? What President actually tried to correct the situation but was stopped by a democrat super majority in congress? Who controlled Fannie and Freddie Mac and refused to change their bond habits?


Do you read a lot of Glenn Beck books?


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:58 PM
 

I'm sure there are some great stories there, but you're starting to lose me a little bit.

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Stories? Like the lies from our President? MSNBC FAN MUCH?

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:17 PM
 

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I don't watch tv news. I'm a social libertarian and a

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:35 PM
 

fiscal moderate. I think people should be left alone when they aren't harming anyone else. I don't like how the social extremists and anti-science groups have taken over the Republican party. I don't like the neocon approach to constant war that Romney has surrounded himself with. I don't like Romney/Ryan plan to cut taxes and explode the deficit in the long term. I like a long term balance between tax increases and spending cuts with each approaching 18% of GDP. I don't mind short term tax cuts and short term spending increases during recessions, particularly ones as bad as any since the 40s. I would like to see a tax system that doesn't play favorites when it comes to the type of income you earn.

That's why I'm voting for Obama.

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Social Libertarian? Do you think Liberals medal with our

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:53 PM
 

Lives? Check out the state of New York. And check out M.Obama and what she is trying to do with our schools. I think maybe what your are trying to say your views are actually something not far from what most reasonable americans believe in. I completely understand the social libertarian view point but my Christian values make it hard for me to not want to fight against abortion and gay marriage but in the grand scheme of things these things are really irrelevant (except my view of killing unborn babies). History has shown us that lowing income taxes actually increase the amount of taxes we bring in. Social Security and Medicare if run right should be self sufficient and should not matter for normal income taxes. If we just spent money on infrastructure,, defense,borders and take care of the small percentage of people that need (not as large as it is now) we would not need to spend so much and tax so much. We spend so much money that the
Federal government should never be apart of. I guess I would be a Fiscal Libertarian (If there is such a thing) and a social conservative. For h Record Romney is a moderate Democrat and Obama is a very far left Almost Socialist leaning Democrat in my mind. I would want us to hit a reset button on our tax and spending part of our government. Oh and you guys do realize that Beck is a Libertarian right?


I see why you are voting for Romney.


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:55 PM
 

And you did read those Beck books like I thought.

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Have never read an Beck book, but what if I had?


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:07 PM
 

You call yourself a Libertarian. So does he. And so does Ron Paul. So how do you align by you words with these two and also call yourself a Fiscal Conservative and still vote for someone like Obama? I just do no understand how anyone thinks that a guy should be able to come into office and spend more than all other president combined and then can go and say we need to raise taxes to pay for this mess? It's crazy and the cost of Obamacare has not even hit the books yet. Why does the "fee" errr "tax" for business cost less than the actually insurance they could provide to there employees? Is this some way to entice business to not buy insurance and just pay the tax? why would that be?


fact checked myself. Sorry you said Fiscal Moderate


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:16 PM
 

not Fiscal Conservative. I agree that we both disagree.


Re: I don't watch tv news. I'm a social libertarian and a


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:07 PM
 

15% tax rate for all. No matter income


Re: Are you going to vote for the guy who in his own book


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:18 PM
 

Responses like this are how I lose faith in the world.


The smart ones will!!***


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:33 PM
 



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that amount is NOTHING compaired

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:13 PM
 

to the costs you will rack up when/if you need to use it. Hospital+doctor+surgeon+rehab+home health care= more than your premium. You should be happy you can afford insurance! Your premiums are going up because as you get older there is a MUCH higher chance of you needing to actually use your insurance. 60,000,000 Americans are about to go on medicare. Thats almost 1/3 of the population! Adding to that the government is cutting medicare benifits just to keep the program afloat means what? It means private insurance is going to continue to rise to offset costs. Its got nothing to do with who is the prez, its a business, a BIG business. So big that the insurance companies now have more lobbiests in Washington than the oil industry AND the pharmaceutical companies. This partisan bullshyt is going to keep the country right where it is, in a mess.


+1 for the guy who gets it. Demi-cons and Pubic-rats....

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:50 PM
 

80% of them are owned by K Street and the ones that aren't can't do anything about it. Why does the Senate have a Cloak Room? ...To make deals with the Monopoly money and plan the PR to hide it.

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Re: research?

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:25 PM
 

I suspect he is advocating the kind of research in which one types things like "is Obama a communist" and "is Obama a Muslim" into Google. If he could show me an actual passage from Obama's book with all the context, then I might be intrigued. I suspect he's just parroting the right wing blogosphere.


Exactly.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:31 PM
 

When they start those Glenn Beck/Newt Gingrich style conspiracy theories, you just have to roll your eyes and laugh. It's just part of living in the South.

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Buy the Book and read it for yourself then!

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:22 PM
 

Just read his own words is all I ask!


Are you questioning the prophet Obammed?***

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:24 PM
 




I am waiting for my IRS audit any second now

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:09 PM
 

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 7:37 PM
 

mine is too...at lest it's pre tax...still stinks

with daycare, gas, and increasing costs to keep the mrs. on my insurance...she is barely breaking even working a 40 hr week

crazy fo sho

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I dont know who the fk broke the lounge.....

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:15 PM
 

...but I wish they'd open it back up

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Yes. Point.***


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:27 PM
 



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I'll be glad when this stupid election is over.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:23 PM
 

I don't even care who wins anymore.

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nut up man


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:30 PM
 

at least you have insurance

cut back on political contributions

get those darn tickets


Mine went down $720 a year. Guess I have a good boss***

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Re: You better read the fine print******


Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:00 PM
 




I'd live under a bridge before giving up Clemson football***


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How does that compare with previous years?


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:19 AM
 

Not asking to antagonize, but is the increase markedly more than previous years?

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Re: How does that compare with previous years?


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:25 PM
 

Our company said it was the highest increase in 1 year that the company had EVER seen. The company has been around for about 43 years.

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Re: Don't know if I can afford football tickets next year.....


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:41 PM
 

Do you live in Ohio? 'Cause that's the only way it's going to matter.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2012 3:01 PM
 



My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.


Just drop your insurance...


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:32 PM
 

Global Warming is gonna kill us all anyway. ;)


Had to point you on that!***


Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:10 PM
 




I find it amazing that every reply


Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:56 AM
 

I have received on this post is about splitting hairs in difference of personal definitions, but not one single reply "actually" disputing a single "FACT" that I have made!

1) "Socialism is most certainly not forcing someone to do something"!
---sjmasse

A) Yes it is. Welfare, WIC, Medicare, are all examples of active socialism in this country to date plus many more!



2)"There are plenty of places that there is a truly "free" market. Most of africa, for instance, has little-to-no government interference in the economy."
---Coren77

A) Again splitting hairs on definition about "free" market. You state "most" of Africa. My question to you is can you be more specific? Because Alot of Africa that is controlled by drug lords. Those countries are also not republic-democracies either. You are taking "free" market to the extreme; to the point of anarchy. But regardless when any country gives to much commercial or industrial control to the government they fail. The government only exist because of the people. The people are what makes the government work. Not the other way around; government does not make our country work! When the government hires someone; what they really did is take a "worker" from the private sector and pay them with public funds. That is not "creating" jobs that is manupilation of the Obama.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/fact-check-4-5-million-jobs-created-under-175621036--election.html
Further more common sense will tell you, our should, that more government jobs means more tax payer income to pay for it. Where does that money come from?? Tax the rich even more?? Okay, we'll the problem there is that the rich alread pay about 90% of the the income generated from tax revue in this country. If you tax them more they will "take their ball and go home"! Which means they will stop investing in our economy. Which means they don't start businesses which create jobs!!

So if y'all would like to post then at least have or make some thought provoking ideas! But if y'all are just interested in splitting hairs then refinance from entering an adult conversation!!!


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