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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Does a 2-loss UGA make playoff over 2 1-loss SEC West teams?
Oct 21, 2014, 10:28 AM
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For example, say both Mississippi schools win out until the egg bowl. The winner goes to face UGA and loses in the SECCG. Prior to reaching the SECCG, UGA loses to Auburn. So you have UGA as SEC champ with two losses and both Mississippi schools with one loss each.
Who goes to the playoff?
This and many other interesting scenarios could play out.
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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And before you tell me, I understand this has nothing to do
Oct 21, 2014, 10:29 AM
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with Clemson football.
TIA
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Oculus Spirit [93658]
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I don't think we can know that right now.
Oct 21, 2014, 10:43 AM
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It seems to me until all the regular season games are played and a true SOS, W/L record head to head comparison and conference champs are determined speculation is worth nothing more than entertainment. All that being said, an SEC champ would be included even with two losses depending on the other big conferences and how their champion's fared.
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CU Medallion [67817]
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Re: Does a 2-loss UGA make playoff over 2 1-loss SEC West teams?
Oct 21, 2014, 10:34 AM
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if we dont go I pretty much dont care except that I want to see Saban not be able to talk his underserving way in like he has in the BCS
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Orange Blooded [2455]
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No***
Oct 21, 2014, 10:34 AM
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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So the 1-loss non conference winners both go and
Oct 21, 2014, 10:36 AM
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the 2-loss SEC champ gets left out?
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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IMO......no
Oct 21, 2014, 10:35 AM
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at that point i would think you look at who you lost to
assuming your scenario plays out Miss/MSU has 1 loss to top 5/10 team......the other will have 1 loss to top 5/10 team, but UGA has 2 losses.......one of which is a "bad loss"
If you lose 2 games you SHOULD be eliminated completely...........unless there are only 3 teams with 1 or fewer losses.
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All-In [30593]
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here's the problem...
Oct 21, 2014, 10:37 AM
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let's say, in that scenario, ole miss beats msu, but looses SECCG to a 2 loss UGA
if you don't take UGA, and you tell msu... "well, ole miss beat you, so they're in"
hell, but UGA just beat Ole Miss to win the SEC.... can't go both ways
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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yes but UGA has A. 2 losses......and B. a "bad loss" to SCar
Oct 21, 2014, 10:38 AM
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who is (and im assuming).....unranked
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agreed... but i'm just not sure about going down that road..
Oct 21, 2014, 10:43 AM
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cause then you open yourself up to all kinds of stuff... like who's playing better at the time, etc..
what if it's like Clemson, who's only two losses came in the first 3, on the road, to both ACC and SEC champs... but no one in the nation is playing as well as us
lots of scenarios
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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oh i see what you are saying, BUT......imo......
Oct 21, 2014, 10:46 AM
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regardless of what team we are talking about........you have to play well the entire season......a true championship team should theoretically play well all the time.........and even if you don't play well.........you should at least keep winning (see FSU)
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Then the purists would argue the conference championship
Oct 21, 2014, 10:40 AM
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was rendered meaningless by the playoff.
I still like the playoff, but those critics would be vindicated.
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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correct........i think the playoffs render the........
Oct 21, 2014, 10:42 AM
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regular season somewhat meaningless when/if you go to a 8-16 team playoff..........but that's jmo and that's an argument for another day.
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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That's why I think they keep it at four teams
Oct 21, 2014, 10:50 AM
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under the selection committee.
The only way they could go to eight is if five auto bids for the conference champs and three at- large bids.
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Re: IMO......no
Oct 21, 2014, 11:08 AM
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LSU won a National Championship with two losses. Every year people look at the schedule and assume the team that's favored to win will win and come up with these scenarios. The PAC-12, Big 12 and SECW all look like they'll beat each other up and this year ends with at least one two loss team in the playoff.
Sticking with the original question, I don't see any way the committee doesn't take the SEC champ, the media just love the SEC too much. In that scenario where the SECW team goes in with 0 losses and/or there is another one loss SECW team, the SEC probably gets a second team in the playoff.
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what about this scenario:
Oct 21, 2014, 10:38 AM
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FSU finishes 13-0, ACC Champs and #1 ranked
UGA blows through the rest of the season and finishes 12-1, SEC Champs and #2 ranked.
Could happen.
Clemson finishes 10-2, only losses are to #1 and #2 on the road.
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Oculus Spirit [93658]
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That could result in not just one but two rematches.
Oct 21, 2014, 10:49 AM
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I think the committee would assume that Clemson has already had a shot at both these teams.
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Re: what about this scenario:
Oct 21, 2014, 11:11 AM
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No great wins and FSU was without Winston would be their argument.
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All-In [26968]
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Good one. Tough call.***
Oct 21, 2014, 10:41 AM
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Re: Does a 2-loss UGA make playoff over 2 1-loss SEC West teams?
Oct 21, 2014, 10:44 AM
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Whom ever is the conference champs go to the playoffs. If you don't pick conference champs why play the championship games?
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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That's not how it is set up....
Oct 21, 2014, 10:52 AM
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The selection committee could easily send both Mississippi schools to the playoff and leave UGA out under my scenario.
Nothing to stop them. They would simply say, "Both Mississippi schools played a tougher schedule and only had one loss."
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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that makes the regular season pointless......
Oct 21, 2014, 10:57 AM
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have to look at the entire body of work.......not just whether a team got up for ONE game in the conference championship from a division that was pathetic.
i say that in the instance where last year THEORETICALLY FSU played a bad GT team in the ACCCG who did nothing in the regular season but won the division by virtually default.........had they won that ONE game in your scenario they go to the playoffs UNDERSERVING imo
same with this year in the SEC........the east champion could theoretically have 3 losses and sneak up on the WEST team that is the best division in college football currently.........they wouldn't "deserve it"
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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not last year 2 years ago........duke was last year***
Oct 21, 2014, 10:58 AM
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Re: No way. They lost to S. Carolina.***
Oct 21, 2014, 10:51 AM
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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I think Georgia goes in that scenario
Oct 21, 2014, 10:52 AM
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but if it's an extremely close game maybe the loser also makes it on the other side of the bracket.
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Oculus Spirit [83073]
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UGA would go, imo.***
Oct 21, 2014, 10:52 AM
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All-In [30788]
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I've posted several times that if uga
Oct 21, 2014, 10:53 AM
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Wins the sec, there will be 2 sec teams in the playoffs.
Uga earned the right to trump a west team by winning their conference.
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Orange Blooded [2928]
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Re: I've posted several times that if uga
Oct 21, 2014, 11:02 AM
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What happens if UGA wins the SEC with 3 losses?
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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that's why conference champion shouldn't be the "end all"
Oct 21, 2014, 11:06 AM
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it has to be the entire body of work throughout the ENTIRE season
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All-In [30788]
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im not going to say what should happen. . I'm
Oct 21, 2014, 11:28 AM
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Telling you what will happen if a 1 loss uga wins the sec.
They will put them in the playoffs with a 1 loss sec west team.
I think some of you guys put to Much faith in these committee folks or don't realize the impact the media has on thier opinion.
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Oculus Spirit [93658]
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This thread is a flustercluck.
Oct 21, 2014, 10:58 AM
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As much fun as it is to argue it's impossible to view this through the eyes of the committee members who will have the final information on every team including a reasonably accurate SOS and a poll they have already generated.
Everyone who participated in this thread has made valid points but the lack of information and the temptation to consider the current poll rankings overwhelms reason.
I do not think four SEC teams belong in the top five. That defies all reason and logic and corrupts any conversation. Preseason rankings my ###.
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Xactly! +1 for "flustercluck"... Precise description....***
Oct 21, 2014, 11:21 AM
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All-In [30788]
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