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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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All-Time Barves team and batting order while in ATL:
May 2, 2013, 11:49 AM
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Only requirement is they have to have spent more than one year in Atlanta:
1. Rico Carty LF
2. CHipper Jones 3B
3. Henry Aaron RF
4. Fred McGriff 1B
5. Dale Murphy C
6. Andrew Jones CF
7. Rafael Furcal SS
8. Felix "The Kitten" Millan 2B
RHP - Greg Maddux
LHP - Tom Glavine
Bulllpen/Closer - Craig Kimbrel
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not complete without
May 2, 2013, 11:54 AM
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Klesko
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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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Justice was the one I really hated to leave off but he
May 2, 2013, 11:55 AM
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played same position as Hank.
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Oculus Spirit [75683]
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No Lempkee, no Belliard, where in the hell is Sid Bream?
May 2, 2013, 11:56 AM
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I really hope I didn't spell any of those names properly.
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Point for title of post, non-donor TD for the message***
May 2, 2013, 11:57 AM
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Re: All-Time Barves team and batting order while in ATL:
May 2, 2013, 11:59 AM
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SS Furcal
LF Carty
RF Aaron
3B Jones
1B McGriff
CF Jones
C McCann
2B Hubbard
Maddux/Glavine/Kimbrel
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Rock Defender [53]
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HOW CAN YOU SO-CALLED "FANS" CONTINUE
May 2, 2013, 12:00 PM
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TO LEAVE OFF KLESKO? WHAT WITH HIS BLAZING SPEED AND PLATINUM GLOVE IN LEFT FIELD......SHEESH!
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He's one of the better LF the Braves have had
May 2, 2013, 12:02 PM
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But he wasn't better than Carty, IMO. You could make a very reasonable argument for Klesko being first-team all-time for Atlanta.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Oh man really I was just
May 2, 2013, 12:04 PM
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joking about Klesko. He was a sloth out in LF.
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Not a good defender, but a very good hitter.
May 2, 2013, 12:06 PM
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Assuming he didn't get any...help.
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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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Murphy played 85 games at catcher in his career.
May 2, 2013, 12:04 PM
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I don't consider him a catcher. Andruw was a better player than Murph.
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BLASPHEMY
May 2, 2013, 12:08 PM
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How dare you besmirch the legacy of Dale Murphy. My 10 year old self wants to beat you up.
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I'd rather have Murphy at my barbecue
May 2, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Or in my house. But if we're making a fantasy baseball team, it's Andruw, who has a borderline HOF case himself (and a better one than Murph, IMO).
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If Dale didn't play on some of the worst Braves teams ever
May 2, 2013, 12:12 PM
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I'm betting you would see a ton more R.B.I.'s and HR's. The Braves had exactly one bat in the lineup with Murphy played, and he still managed to put up numbers.
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I don't really consider RBIs much. Murphy has a little edge
May 2, 2013, 12:16 PM
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in OBP. Andruw has a larger edge in SLG. The real separating factor is that, while Murphy was a very good defensive player, Andruw was a transcendent defensive player, probably one of the top two or three in the history of baseball in CF (maybe THE best).
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Can we stick Dale in left then?***
May 2, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Played there more than catcher (101 games to 85)
May 2, 2013, 12:22 PM
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But, hey, you can build your team however you want.
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I didn't watch Mays, obviously.
May 2, 2013, 12:53 PM
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Probably watched at least 1,000 games Andruw played. He's about twice as good as any other I've watched. The metrics like him better than Mays, though faulty they may be.
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Did you watch Murphy play CF?
May 2, 2013, 1:07 PM
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He was no Mays or Jones,but he was no slouch. And I'd much rather have his bat in the middle of the lineup than Andruw's.
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Exactly, Dale Murphy for president
May 2, 2013, 1:09 PM
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Seriously though, my 10 year old self would fight anyone talking trash about my man Dale. He was the only bright spot of being a Braves fan, and should be rewarded thusly.
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No. Before my time.
May 2, 2013, 1:10 PM
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At his best, Murphy was a better hitter than Andruw, but Andruw seems to have accumulated an equivalent offensive career.
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It's hard to compare eras but Jones routinely made
May 2, 2013, 1:03 PM
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catches just as good as Mays' famous over the shoulder catch in the WS.
Maddux once said AJ is worth one run a game because he played so shallow and took away so many singles.
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I think he caught full-time in the minors...
May 2, 2013, 1:06 PM
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He came up as such with Atlanta, but was moved very quickly.
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Dan Kolb isn't your choice for closer??***
May 2, 2013, 11:59 AM
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Mark Wohlers was good before he went batshyatt crazy!
May 2, 2013, 12:00 PM
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Still, Kimbrel would be my choice as well.
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Plus he was part of a great SNL skit***
May 2, 2013, 12:03 PM
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Bob Horner says
May 2, 2013, 11:59 AM
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screw you!
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Since you are playing the one year game, you should
May 2, 2013, 12:01 PM
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probably go with Davey Johnson for 2B...43 bombs in 1973 (two other Braves hit 40 plus on that same team as well)
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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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Maybe so, Was he there more than one year? I put in
May 2, 2013, 12:03 PM
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the one year rule so I wouldn't have to list Kenny Lofton.
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He played two seasons for Atlanta.***
May 2, 2013, 12:05 PM
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Defense for a 2B is highly overrated***
May 2, 2013, 12:07 PM
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Justification? I'm intrigued by that position.
May 2, 2013, 12:08 PM
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Not sure how I feel about it.
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The 5 foot throw to first base...having much more time to
May 2, 2013, 12:53 PM
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field grounders. If you bobble a grounder at SS you aren't throwing out any runners with decent speed
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Hmmm...I consider hands to be a smaller
May 2, 2013, 12:55 PM
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Component of defense than range. Players at neither position tend to do much "bobbling" of grounders. What matters most is how many balls you can get to.
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I suppose your all-time manager would be Bobby Cox and not
May 2, 2013, 12:02 PM
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Joe Torre too huh?
#sarcasm
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The thing I most hate about the Barves in general is that
May 2, 2013, 12:02 PM
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they are not a volleyball team.
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I like me a good bike rack*****
May 2, 2013, 12:05 PM
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This list is worthless without Sid Bream.***
May 2, 2013, 12:05 PM
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Looking at Maddux's stats right now...
May 2, 2013, 12:13 PM
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1994 (strike shortened) - 16-6, 1.56 ERA
1995 - 19-2, 1.63 ERA
In fact, his ERA was sub 2.50 every season from 1992-1998 except for one (2.72). And this was supposedly the height of the steroid era.
Wow...just wow...
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Ralph Garr kicks everybody on there's butt except Hank
May 2, 2013, 12:47 PM
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and Javy Lopez is the best catcher.
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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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Javy and Garr were both very good...just not as good
May 2, 2013, 12:57 PM
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as Rico Carty or Dale Murphy
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How about best since 1981 (my birth year)
May 2, 2013, 1:03 PM
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1. Furcal - SS
2. Sheffield (03) - RF
3. Jones - 3rd
4. Murphy - LF
5. McGriff - 1B
6. McCann - C
7. Jones - CF
8. Renteria - 2nd (he had a decent year in 1993)
RP - Maddux
LP - Glavine
Closer - Smoltz
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Re: All-Time Barves team and batting order while in ATL:
May 2, 2013, 1:04 PM
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1. Furcal - SS
2. Carty - LF
3. Aaron - RF
4. Murphy - CF
5. Big Cat - 1B
6. McCann - C
7. Chipper - 3B
8. Lemke - 2B
Pitchers, what you said. If we add a DH, I'd love to have (a healthy) Bob Horner (or McGriff) in there somewhere.
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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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Didn't we have the AJ/Murph argument about 10 years
May 2, 2013, 1:55 PM
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ago?
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Yeah, I think you're right.
May 2, 2013, 2:19 PM
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And you still don't get it. 
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I swear to Allah, if one more person leaves Blauser off
May 2, 2013, 1:09 PM
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one of these lists..........
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Blauser was good
May 2, 2013, 1:12 PM
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However he was no Jeff Treadway (KNOW THAT)!
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why you little..........***
May 2, 2013, 1:13 PM
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Lonnie Smith? Ron Gant?***
May 2, 2013, 1:32 PM
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Also good candidates for LF. I considered Smith.***
May 2, 2013, 1:47 PM
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Best lead off hitter choice***
May 2, 2013, 1:49 PM
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Can this team join in...............
May 2, 2013, 1:52 PM
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C – Yogi Berra
1B – Don Mattingly
2B – Robinson Cano
3B – Alex Rodriguez
SS – Derek Jeter
LF – Mickey Mantle
CF – Joe DiMaggio
RF – Babe Ruth
DH - Lou Gehrig.... it's the AL
SP - Whitey Ford
SP - Andy Pettitte
RP - Mariano Rivera
It's interesting looking at other teams and seeing who made the cut all time. Oh and joeg how about Orlando "Cha Cha" Cepeda on the Barves team?
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Only if they can use A-Rod's doctor***
May 2, 2013, 1:53 PM
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Do you really need A-Rod there.
May 2, 2013, 1:55 PM
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With all that firepower. Go with Nettles' better glove and good bat and you don't have to put up with the diva.
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Can I buy a question mark or two?***
May 2, 2013, 1:56 PM
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