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Deer idiots who are worried about their 'rights' Covid-19

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Posted: May 24, 2020 5:42 PM
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Before you give your soul and common sense to a corrupt politician (pick one) or a corrupt political party (pick one) or a corrupt social ideology (pick one), perhaps you should consider THIS little tidbit of info.

If cases don't continue to decline, or there is a second wave because people insist on their right to "live as they please" regardless of the consequences for others, including their own extended families, there WON'T be a College Football Season this year. Period.

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Our resident socialist peeps his head out

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Posted: May 24, 2020 5:49 PM
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To pollute the main bored

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Posted: May 24, 2020 5:57 PM
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You didn't seem to mind it when they were handing out prison sentences to people who had HIV/AIDS because they were having sex all around without telling their partners they were infected. They put them in prison, every one, and you thought that was a great idea, didn't u?

And be honest, you wouldn't know a real socialist if they walked up and licked your face.

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Posted: May 26, 2020 10:52 AM
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No, you're backing an unclean party and their totally confused and lost nominee. The polls show that only 55% of Democrats think Joementia is the best chance to beat Trump. Where are you? The Crazed and Denial-prone 55% or the clearly smarter 45%? We need to know...

Gawd, you DO make this board amusing and entertaining. Please keep it up...every board needs a resident socialist village.....i---t. Congrats.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:15 PM
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Who knew there was a Karate Kid football trophy?

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:38 PM
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Felix2® said:

You didn't seem to mind it when they were handing out prison sentences to people who had HIV/AIDS because they were having sex all around without telling their partners they were infected. They put them in prison, every one, and you thought that was a great idea, didn't u?

And be honest, you wouldn't know a real socialist if they walked up and licked your face.


Look at Sweden, you idiot. They have not quarantined, closed schools or restaurants and their numbers were never worse than their neighbors, yet we continue to listen to left-wing, panty-waist, bikeseat sniffers like you!

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Moran Fact Check

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:52 PM
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Sweden's numbers are far worse than their neighbors.


Not according to Fox News!!!

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:14 PM
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Whoa let me think....It’s only fake news if it goes against my agenda and I don’t want to believe it. If I agree with it then it’s not fake news! Lol ??


Re: Not according to Fox News!!!

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Posted: May 25, 2020 4:26 AM
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If you idiots watch TV, that’s your own fault.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:09 PM
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"Look at Sweden, you idiot. They have not quarantined, closed schools or restaurants and their numbers were never worse than their neighbors, yet we continue to listen to left-wing, panty-waist, bikeseat sniffers like you!"

Yes, let's look at Sweden, you idiot:

"Between May 13 and May 20, Sweden had an average 6.08 deaths per million inhabitants per day, the highest in the world."

https://www.jpost.com/international/sweden-still-not-close-to-herd-immunity-death-rate-not-slowing-down-629033


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Today would have been nice in Stockholm


Posted: May 25, 2020 1:31 PM
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Lunchtime was sunny and in the 60s. That usually means lots of topless sunbathing.


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Posted: May 26, 2020 11:07 AM
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As a health care guy I'm surprised that you kinda missed the whole point of flattening the curve and the stats that are now apparent.

Here ya go: The flattening was an attempt to reach a point at which the number of cases was declining and, more importantly, hospitals were NOT being overrun (ie. people could be treated quickly and in a timely fashion). WE are now at that point, and Sweden was never close to having their hospitals too full to treat COVID infected patients.

Did you forget that over 99+% of infectees will recover from the virus? And the experts estimate that we will kill many more Americans than the virus IF we don't reopen the country. Lack of routine medical care, chemo, cancer diagnoses, suicides, depression, lack of interaction and so forth.

Again, Felix...try harder to not embarrass yourself, although we do enjoy your 'socialist comedy'. So, as they say, you're not useless, you can always be used as a bad example...or, of course....a comedian.

Stay safe brother, but stay away from the MSM. They're more dangerous than the COVID!!

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:15 PM
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We used to call, bikeseat sniffers, "twerps". Haven't heard that in many years!

Go Tigers!!!


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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:36 PM
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i believe you’re going to need a completely different vaccine.




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Posted: May 25, 2020 7:40 AM
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Their numbers are worse than their neighbors. Sweden’s per capita death rate was 36 per 100,000, which is higher than the United States at 27 and neighboring Denmark at 9.

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Posted: May 25, 2020 10:54 AM
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27 out of 100000 is .00027 so that's your probability of death. A risk many are willing to take. You have to weigh your own propensity for that risk. I am on the side of if you want to take that risk take it. If not, mask up/isolate/hide.


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Posted: May 25, 2020 11:04 AM
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I think washing hands and masks are good enough, if everyone would follow through. I think closing everything down was a blunder. JMO

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Without mitigation, you have an 80% chance to get it,


Posted: May 25, 2020 1:22 PM
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Then around a 0.1% chance of dying if you get it if young and healthy, so 0.08% and still low. After 40, that probability increases and then increases a lot more rapidly after 60. These numbers are from memory and 80 is from the herd immunity theory, which requires a slow spread rate.

It will be a long time before we have the real numbers. CDC guidance last week said nursing homes weren’t required to report covid deaths prior to 5/8, an attempt to delay passing the 100k number until after memorial day.


you have no clue what so ever what your chances


Posted: May 25, 2020 1:30 PM
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would have been without mitigation. The virus experts are about as good at predicting the future as the global alarmist have been.

More Neil Ferguson predictions LOL

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I think you are confusing the rate predictions with


Posted: May 25, 2020 4:42 PM
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the penetration predictions. The rate is how fast the contagion spreads, penetration is how many people it eventually infects. Without a vaccine or a natural die-out of the virus from extreme mitigation, they expect eventual penetration at 80% or above. For reference, H1N1-pdm09 is still infecting and killing people 10 years later.


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Posted: May 26, 2020 11:08 AM
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See my post above..before your head explodes...

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Posted: May 26, 2020 11:09 AM
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See my post above..before your head explodes...

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BS take

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:03 PM
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I love how morons call everything they disagree with as socialism. Maybe 5% of the people in this country want socialism. If you want true capitalism let’s get rid of monopoly laws.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:45 PM
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Why use the word morons ? Its condescending.


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Posted: May 25, 2020 7:10 AM
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Seriously, what a tool.

If wanted a 6 year old's opinion about the Wuhan Virus I'd ask my niece.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 5:58 PM
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Good Morning DSP

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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:07 PM
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A frontline doctor on one of the networks last night said if you keep your hands washed and avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth as much as possible, you have about a 95% chance of not catching it.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:36 PM
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And if you do catch it, "confirmed-wise", you have a 94% chance of surviving it? I wish I had that luck in the lottery, I'll take the 94% odds. And 80%, or more, of all fatalities "attributed" to the covid (at least in this country) are of people 80 yrs. old or older? Any death is a tragedy, but God bless us all, I'll never live to see 80 yrs. old, which is not that far off. God, please bless America and everyone, as we fight this terrible epidemiological, political, and media driven battle.

Go Tigers, all!!!


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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:04 PM
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I like how “rights” are a subjective term to this loser.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:12 PM
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I like how “rights” are a subjective term to this loser.




No one has the 'right' to endanger others and their families. That objective enough?

9th Amendment to the Constitution: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

It seems logical that since you don't understand the Constitution, you must be a Trump supporter. He doesn't understand it either.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:27 PM
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Maybe Gates and his buddies In Wuhan plan on unleashing a real killer virus at some point soon but this version ain’t it. The fraud has been exposed and people are waking up to it. Till then, I’m enjoying the lake. You stay inside if you think it’s necessary. Name calling is not necessary. I didnt call you a sheep so dont call me an idiot.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:31 PM
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Your rights don't mean more than my rights. That's common sense! If you don't want to go out, go to work or any of the other things that life entails that's your choice, some of us choose not to live in fear of a disease that has a .02% chance of killing a healthy person. I am a severe diabetic but I refuse to live in fear. I haven't been afraid of anything in my life and I am to old to start now. My wife scares me more than Iraq in '91 and any other thing I have ever encountered. When my time is up. I will go and meet my maker happily.


Speaking of not understanding the 9th Amendment


Posted: May 24, 2020 7:13 PM
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and having the right to be kept safe from dangerous stuff around you:

https://elr.info/sites/default/files/litigation/22.21334.htm


In other words, no dice.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:18 PM
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Then stay the #### at home.

Hmmmm my scare tactic is no longer working. Time to think of a new one. OHH I got it, if you don't surrender your rights then there will be no football!

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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:12 PM
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An old professor of mine once stated very accurately that there are no "rights", as the writers of the Constitution meant to imply, but only "privileges". "Privilege: a benefit, immunity, etc, granted under certain conditions." Our constitution takes great pains to delimit those "conditions", and does so very carefully under the judicial branch of the government which it defined, and which we still live by - at least for the time being. I hate to think it's taken us 36 years to reach 1984, but here we are. Nolo contendere....


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Posted: May 25, 2020 11:00 AM
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Then dont ever drive again. Everytime you or anyone else gets behind the wheel, you are endangering others and their families. Counterexamples are logically accepted arguments against any blanket premise.


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Posted: May 25, 2020 11:00 AM
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Then dont ever drive again. Everytime you or anyone else gets behind the wheel, you are endangering others and their families. Counterexamples are logically accepted arguments against any blanket premise.


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Posted: May 26, 2020 11:12 AM
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Reagan like response: 'there you go again, making stupid posts'.. You're TDS has moved to another level, eh?

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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:28 PM
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Wrong board dumb fuq.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:34 PM
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So tell me, why can't you just stay home and protect yourself? You can't wash your hands, social distance and take precautions when out in public? So you're telling me because you can't protect yourself everyone else should follow what you think is best? Let's also not forget that this virus is a fraction as bad as they claimed. Don't get me it was because of the precautions we took because the people in charge accounted for precautions and is why they shut everything down. The stats and numbers are out there that say people who are older or have preexisting condition do need to take extra precaution and that doesn't other people shouldn't wash their hand or not act like there is a virus out there but to act as if this is Armageddon is just not factually nor science based prognostication. Sorry you're scared to death but you have the right to stay home and protect yourself if you're that worried. I promise you I don't want to get near you more than you think if i did I'd get you sick. The fact the media have people like you all up in a frenzy is a shame. Hiding from a virus never works and never will. This was about not overrunning the hospitals we did so why are we still here? It's political now, period. If everyone would have gotten the heck out of the way we would have reached herd immunity and been done with it for the most part. Really you need to quit watching agenda based tv and actually look at the numbers yourself bc they tell a different story than the one you're trying to tell, idiot. Your the type of person who would give all his rights away if big daddy Government will protect you. Thank God my dad was a true Gid fearing, Right loving American. Keep thinking giving your Rights away works. Look at some of these states where people are committing suicide and their Governors are refusing them the right to work and live. Sorry but my 1,200 dollar Government handout isn't going to work for me and I'd imagine the people who haven't got paid in 2 months may disagree with you also.


You know what else is not factually correct?

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:43 PM
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When you say “they shut everything down.”

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Posted: May 24, 2020 6:59 PM
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It's the "Applebees Interruption" , a time when the apes win above men .

Or we just all need a break from being broke . Whichever .

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Just don't cough, sneeze or #### in someone's face

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:13 PM
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and for the one's that want to go all out, don't call me a ##### for wearing a mask. You do your thing and I'll do mine and we're all going to be alright!

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Everybody dies at some point

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:20 PM
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You can either live or hide until then. Get your life right with the one True God and Live my man. Life is a lot more free when u have that assurance.


so do you go run outside in the middle of a thunderstorm


Posted: May 24, 2020 7:55 PM
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with your golf club pointed in the sky? Unreal


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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:13 PM
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Yes as long as it’s my one iron.

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Posted: May 26, 2020 9:46 AM
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not being scared of walking out the door. I could get pneumonia or the flu tomorrow and die from it as well. IT's not a superman thing its just weight off your shoulders. To each his own, live how it makes sense to you, but there will inevitably come a day when you'll have to deal with it and 100% of us whether its corona virus or a tree falling on your head will face that unknown. I have a belief that there is a place far greater than this earth waiting on us. Therefore what becomes of this body on this earth is of little consequence in the grand scheme of things. But take your precautions, wear a mask, use antibacterials as they have asked of you and live life. Just don't promote fear and legislate it to everyone else.


No doubt, and F a seat belt

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:27 PM
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Give Jesus the wheel.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:57 PM
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You sound a little cavalier , kind of like Sleepy Joe , my man ??

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Im just pulling for natural selection. I wish most of

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Posted: May 24, 2020 7:51 PM
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The idiots that don’t take this seriously get removed. Unfortunately that won’t happen though.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:26 PM
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In the intelligent words of Texas lieutenant governor. " Living isn't everything".


Natural selection *is* working. The blue states are getting pounded.

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Posted: May 25, 2020 4:29 AM
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Feel free to root for more deaths in red states though. The MSM is.

In fact, I’m surprised the DNC/Left/MSM (they’re all the same group) hasn’t paid to send bus loads of infected people from NY and NJ to Georgia and Florida just to spread things around. Give them their “fair share.”

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He used to be OK


Posted: May 25, 2020 12:23 PM
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His place on rice is considered the first sports bar. Tickets and all sorts of memorabilia sealed in the bar tops with polyurethane. He aged badly.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:36 PM
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Why more name calling ? If you want to shelter in place then do so. I don’t get why you are so upset at others that make a different decision. How does that affect you in the safety of your home ?


wear a mask keep your distance and I have no problems..


Posted: May 24, 2020 8:45 PM
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this is what every expert is saying. Even the most conservative experts. But the unintelligent people of our society will claim having to do that is violating their rights. They feel like they don't want to be told what to do no matter how smart the advice is. And I can promise A LOT of people on this board feel that the gov't violates their rights by telling them to do something smart for society.

Its hard to understand but its true.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:05 PM
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TD Tigers said:

this is what every expert is saying. Even the most conservative experts. But the unintelligent people of our society will claim having to do that is violating their rights. They feel like they don't want to be told what to do no matter how smart the advice is. And I can promise A LOT of people on this board feel that the gov't violates their rights by telling them to do something smart for society.

Its hard to understand but its true.




You're exactly right. But out of a sense of brevity, I thought 'those idiots' encompassed your wisdom succinctly.

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Posted: May 26, 2020 11:14 AM
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Stop digging your hole.....

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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:40 PM
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It's not what that the government is "telling" them what to do, but what the government is "forcing" them to do. I hope that clarifies.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:03 PM
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pshuey21 said:

Why more name calling ? If you want to shelter in place then do so. I don’t get why you are so upset at others that make a different decision. How does that affect you in the safety of your home ?




It is precisely because people don't want to shelter at home. My kids shouldn't have to stay in the house, my parents, etc. Particularly in view of the CDC saying this weeks that approx. 35% of covid-19 infected are asymptomatic. As purely a public health matter, to protect others from being infected is the minimum we should expect from the people who say they 'love America' so much. America is people, it's not some abstract theory.

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If anyone is making important decisions about life, health, and freedom

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:27 PM
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based on football, their priorities are out of whack.

Period.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:32 PM
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Agreed Judge. But you use whatever means necessary to get these idiots to think about others kids, parents and grandkids instead of themselves. Facts or common sense don't seem to work, thought football might breakthrough.

I find it odd that some of the same people who are screaming about being 'forced' into protecting their own lives as well as the lives of their families are the very same people who are outraged that gay people should have a right to marry whoever they like. "The rules are for thee, not me."

;)

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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:13 PM
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I kinda think the GAY thing is mostly beyond most of Western society at this point. Its basically do whatever you want. Also, I’m not sure you should equate those who strongly disagree with you in this discussion on lockdown as those who may be opposed to Gay marriage. There are a lot of free thinkers on this board. However, the big takeaway here is that I find it extremely hypocritical for someone who has strong views on individual choices in reference to Gay lifestyle but cant understand or respect those who value individual choices in relation to this discussion on lockdown ########. Again.. no need for the term Idiot. You have the freedom to stay home and shelter in place. You should respect and understand those who choose differently.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 11:35 PM
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He’s already said:
” It is precisely because people don't want to shelter at home. My kids shouldn't have to stay in the house, my parents, etc. ”

Saying he’s free to stay home and shelter in place is wasting your breath. He don’t wanna. Capisce?

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I’m libertarian, so I don’t think the government should be involved in


Posted: May 24, 2020 11:03 PM
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much besides defense and infrastructure. I’ve never understood the anger people have about gay people getting married. The government shouldn’t be involved in marriage. It should be a private thing between two consenting adults. My own heterosexual and Christian beliefs shouldn’t prevent a gay couple from being able to marry.

I will say that this COVID situation has been one that has been tough at times from a libertarian perspective. While I don’t like the idea of the government telling individuals and private business owners what to do, I certainly understand the importance of public health and the government’s desire to minimize illness and fatalities from the virus. Especially since the government is heavily involved in healthcare (I don’t think they should be, but they are, and that gives them a lot of skin in the game when it comes to this pandemic).

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Hoping we can keep the Death rate moving lower

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Posted: May 24, 2020 8:44 PM
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The infection numbers are deceiving because we are testing more people. Those numbers are unreliable when it comes to tracking.

I think we we can ALL wash hands and maintain social distancing, we will be moving in the right direction. But some people think they are bullet proof.

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What say u about the rights of 1000+ at block party?


Posted: May 24, 2020 9:04 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/2-dead-5-wounded-south-carolina-block-party-200200762--abc-news-topstories.html
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I won't tell you what I think.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:07 PM
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You can't eliminate block parties because of a singular event, or at all. I wonder if the shooter passed a thorough background test?

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Posted: May 24, 2020 9:47 PM
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Got to admit, im moving toward your political side. Liberalism just seems easier. I've grown tired of trying to care for myself. Rather it be thinking or bathing. I just locked my door and im not coming out until someone comes and gets me.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 10:28 PM
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Oh, they'll come and get you when the siren goes off as soon as you're "thinking", just like Jean Paul Marat. We pretend like there's nothing new, but it's happened time and time again, many times. Just like CU football.... but

Go Tigers!!!


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Posted: May 24, 2020 10:05 PM
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...and those two deaths will be documented as being due to covid-19. The numbers will simply continue to grow, in spite of reality.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 10:37 PM
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Felix2 original post was dead solid on target. Dude speaks the truth.


Just play without fans then


Posted: May 24, 2020 11:46 PM
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No doom and gloom from me

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Posted: May 25, 2020 6:50 AM
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Look, another idiot who isn’t wrecked financially calling out people who want to go back to work! I hope that work from home job is treating you well. Luckily I have one too, but everyone isn’t so lucky.

Most people realize we can’t stay shut down forever without going into a depression.


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Posted: May 25, 2020 6:59 AM
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Posted: May 25, 2020 7:03 AM
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Ok.. just a few questions for the "shelter at home" crowd...

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Posted: May 25, 2020 7:55 AM
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How long should we shelter at home? Until there are zero new infections? Until there are zero deaths? Until there are zero hospitalizations? Until there is a proven vaccine? Since flattening the curve to prevent overwhelming the hospitals is no longer the goal - please explain what the goal is and the specific metric that will result in lifting the "shelter at home" dictate.

While waiting for whatever metric you deem appropriate - what do you propose we do to support the half of the country that's not allowed to go to work while sheltering at home? Does our Government continue to pass $4 trillion spending bills every month to provide people with money to survive and keeping some businesses from permanently disappearing? How long do you think the Government can keep doing that before inflation kills our currency from printing this money or the debt from borrowing results in the crumbling of our society?

It's awful easy for some folks who are still getting paid while sheltering at home to tell others who are struggling, going bankrupt, or losing their "non-essential" business to just "shut up and stay at home." The old saying "Don’t judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes" comes to mind. If no one (especially politicians and government employees) was getting paid during this crisis I have a feeling there would be a lot more folks clamoring for their rights then just us "idiots"...

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Posted: May 25, 2020 12:48 PM
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Go here first: https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/


Mostly common sense and would work perfectly in almost any other country.

We have a problem with an extreme 15-20% who, despite being too illiterate to understand the Constitution, believe that they have the right to go anywhere, do anything at the expense of everybody else. They won’t wear masks or do any simple thing to prevent infecting other people, because that infringes on their rights. Many carry concealed weapons into the post office because of a mistaken belief that the 2nd protects them from that felony.

Most of that 15-20% also doesn’t pay a dime in federal income tax. Not a dime.


Re: you like to oversimplify, don't you?

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Posted: May 25, 2020 1:53 PM
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It allows you to define any argument on your terms.

"Most of that 15-20% also doesn't pay a dime in federal income tax. Not one dime."

I agree that the simplest Americans should not be allowed to set Federal policy. But don't they have a voice? Do you and Hillary have the right and obligation to ignore them because you consider them to be 'deplorable?'

What about this oversimplified 'no federal income tax' claim: are you saying they don't pay the legal 7.65% FICA tax that the government plays shell games with? Or those who are self-employed the full 15.3%? I guess you aren't. Your kind likes to mock the low-wage worker, not the person sitting at home not even contributing to the system.

Do you deny these Deplorables pay state and local taxes? Do you deny that every product they purchase costs 10-33% more than it would if not for income taxes on the high-wage person who made it? What about gasoline taxes? Taxes on phone bills? Electric and gas bills? 'Not paying a dime in federal taxes' doesn't mean they are entirely living off the public teat.

Yet there are millions of Americans living entirely off the public teat, and we are not attempting to isolate them politically in this discussion. So long as they are citizens, i believe they have a right to be heard.

So why are you trying to divide the American public into segments that are easier to marginalize?


Federal income tax

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Posted: May 25, 2020 2:31 PM
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Pretty straightforward. No, FIT does not include FICA, state income tax, real estate tax, local tax or school tax.

Yearly, just over 50% pay some FIT. (53% last year). This year with the extra tax credits, less than half of Americans will pay some FIT. I think I pay too much because of this, and the latest tax “cuts” only made it worse by limiting deductions and changes to AMT recovery and the NIIT. I have no problem with refundable credits for people raising children, caring for relatives or the disabled. Otherwise everyone else should pay something, even if it’s $10.

My argument is with the 15-20% who want to trample on everybody else’s rights for their own perceived freedoms. That includes the white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and neo-Confederates and their sympathizers who constitute up to 15% of that number. Think of all the people you know who made excuses for the Charlottesville marchers - that’s them.


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Posted: May 25, 2020 3:28 PM
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You're delusional.

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Just wear a mask or keep distance


Posted: May 25, 2020 3:31 PM
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Just don't be an idiot and I won't have a problem with you.


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Posted: May 25, 2020 8:36 AM
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

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Posted: May 25, 2020 10:18 AM
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The fact that some gutless person TDed your Ben Franklin post demonstrates why--or how--Washington DC is so dysfunctional.


Re: Deer idiots who are worried about their 'rights' Covid-19

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Posted: May 25, 2020 9:30 AM
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Felix, if you really think you are talking to the 900+ people who attended the party in Union Co, I'll agree with you. Those people are so irresponsible that they have a short life expectancy anyway.

But you aren't. You're talking to Tigernet, one of the most responsible forums anywhere, in spite of the fact that we are 100% composed of flawed individuals, and that includes both you and me.

So, in the interest of discussion rather than diatribe, which "rights" should a responsible community be willing to give up in the face of a pandemic? For how long? And who decides when we get them back ? IF we get them back?

And since you have set yourself up to be the spokesman for the new community-based morality, what have you done with the old morality? Will it ever be relevant again? Does God, in whatever form we call Him, only exist in non pandemic times?

See, regardless of how we tend to corrupt all of our social ideologies, they are still relevant to us. Coronavirus didn't kill God, or the Constitution. Coronavirus hasn't changed my love for my family, my friends and even some for Tigernet. In times of great anxiety and stress, the ideas we believe in become MORE important, not less.

If we give up those ideas when life gets difficult, we cheapen them. They aren't real to us. They are luxuries secondary to survival. Well, some of us don't want survival without them. Those ideas have created and sustained entire cultures for thousands of years. And today we celebrate those who gave their lives defending those ideas--sorry, those "rights"--for the rest of us.

Hope you have a meaningful Memorial Day.


Rights ... pffft. Insanity, exacerbated by politicians,

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Posted: May 25, 2020 11:07 AM
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social media, and 24/7 "News"/infotainment.

If I don't want to catch a contagious virus, it is my responsibility, not yours, to protect myself by whatever means are resonable and necessary. It is incumbent upon you not to, through unreasonable negligence or malicious intent, infect me. Going to work, walking down the sidewalk, going to the park or a restaraunt, is neither negligent or malicious.

It's as if common sense has gone out the window.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND OBLIGATIONS TO OTHERS: Don't cough or sneeze on other people. Don't get up in people's faces. Keep a reasonable distance whenever possible, UNLESS the other person/people has consented otherwise. If your job requires close contact (hair stylists, doctors, etc.), wear a mask. If you are sick, stay home. If you are not isolating at home, stay away from old people and people with medical conditions.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROTECT YOURSELF: Wash and sanitize your hands frequently. Keep a reasonable distance from other people as much as possible. If you go into a crowded situation (concert, football game, mosh pit, etc.), know that you can have no expectation for social distancing, and that you are accepting full responsibility for the consequenses. Know that anytime you go out in public, you are incurring some degree of risk. If you are old or have a medical condition, stay home and isolate; don't let your kids or grandkids who are not isolating come over; if you don't, you can have no expectation of protection from the virus.

Open things back up. Go to work. Go to baseball games, races, football games, restaraunts, beaches, parks, shopping, etc., but know you are taking a risk, and that you could get sick, or become a carrier of the disease. Becoming infected in such a way is your choice, and your right. Passing it along to other people who are isolating, is not your right, and it violates theirs.

Our economy cannot withstand a prolonged shutdown, not withouit dire consequences that will result in the suffereing of millions, particularly the most vulnerable. Remaining on any kind of shutdown is simply not an option, and is not only misguided, but arrogant, cruel, and short-sighted.

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Re: Rights ... pffft. Insanity, exacerbated by politicians,

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Posted: May 25, 2020 1:24 PM
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"Remaining on any kind of shutdown is simply not an option, and it is not only misguided, but arrogant, cruel and shortsighted. "

^^^^I don't have a large enough vocabulary to emphasize this enough.^^^^

At any other time in our nation's glorious history of community involvement we would be talking about our patriotic duty to SUPPORT EACH OTHER'S BUSINESSES, not to stay home and out-hoard each other.


Re: Deer idiots who are worried about their 'rights' Covid-19


Posted: May 26, 2020 10:45 AM
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Ah, Felix, you sound overly defensive. Foot in mouth comes to mind... try harder. I'm still willing to send you some medications that would soften your TDS, which is getting worse by the post...

No charge..

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Posted: May 26, 2020 1:56 PM
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MAINER VS. PRITZKER.
2020-CH-10.
JUDGE'S RULING ONLY.
5/22/2020

THE COURT: All right. This court has reviewed the plaintiff's complaint, including attachments, prior to today's hearing. The court has had an opportunity to review the response submitted by the defendant and attachments and case law. Before I rule, I'm advising everybody in this room, no public outbursts or displays. The court is still in session until you are told otherwise.

Since the inception of this insanity, the following regulations, rules or consequences have
occurred: I won't get COVID if I get an abortion but I will get COVID if I get a colonoscopy. Selling pot is essential but selling goods and services at a family-owned business is not. Pot wasn't even legal and pot dispensaries didn't even exist in this state until five months ago and, in that five months, they have become essential but a family-owned business in existence for five generations is not.

A family of six can pile in their car and drive to Carlyle Lake without contracting COVID but, if they all get in the same boat, they will. We are told that kids rarely contract the virus and sunlight kills it, but summer youth programs, sports programs are cancelled. Four people can drive to the golf course and not get COVID but, if they play in a foursome, they will. If I go to Walmart, I won't get COVID but, if I go to church, I will. Murderers are released from custody while small business owners are threatened with arrest if they have the audacity to attempt to feed their families.

These are just a few of examples of rules, regulations and consequences that are arbitrary,
capricious, and completely devoid of anything even remotely approaching common sense.

State's attorneys in this state, county sheriffs, mayors, city councils and county boards have
openly and publicly defied these orders followed by threats to withhold funding and revocation of necessary licenses and certifications unless you obey.

Our economy is shut down because of a flu virus with a 98 percent plus survival rate. Doctors and
experts say different things weekly. The defendant cites models in his opposition. The only thing experts will agree on is that all models are wrong and some are useful. The Centers for Disease Control now says the virus is not easily spread on surfaces.

The defendant in this case orders you to stay home and pronounces that, if you leave the state, you are putting people in danger, but his family members traveled to Florida and Wisconsin because he deems such travel essential. One initial rationale why the rules don't apply to him is that his family farm had animals that needed fed. Try selling that argument to farmers who have had to slaughter their herds because of disruption in the supply chain.

When laws do not apply to those who make them, people are not being governed, they are being ruled. Make no mistake, these executive orders are not laws. They are royal decrees. Illinois citizens are not being governed, they are being ruled. The last time I checked Illinois citizens are also Americans and Americans don't get ruled. The last time a monarch tried to rule Americans, a shot was fired that was heard around the world. That day led to the birth of a nation
consensually governed based upon a document which ensures that on this day in this, any American courtroom tyrannical despotism will always lose and liberty, freedom and the constitution will always win.


That said, plaintiff, your request for a TRO with respect to Count I is denied. Your request for the TRO on behalf of similarly situated individuals is denied. If you develop some other case law or ability to convince me that that appellate court opinion you cite trumps current civil practice rules, I'll be glad to consider it later. Counts II and III are granted to
your client only.

MR. DeVORE: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Do you have an order?
MR. DeVORE: I'll prepare it, sir.
THE COURT: And please provide it to the defendant to approve as to form. Any request to stay will be denied.

MR. VERTICCHIO: Your Honor, for the record, move to stay enforcement pending appeal.

THE COURT: I will deny that.

MR. VERTICCHIO: I understand that. I know you know why I made the motion.

THE COURT: Sure. I understand.

MR. VERTICCHIO: Understood. Thank you, Your Honor.

MR. DeVORE: When do you want to come back, Your Honor?

THE COURT: Next Friday. Is that all right, defense?

MR. VERTICCHIO: What are we coming back for?

THE COURT: It's only good for ten days.

MR. VERTICCHIO: It's with notice, Your Honor.
THE COURT: I made you give notice. Ten days doesn't apply. You pick, defense.

MR. VERTICCHIO: Well, we're going to take an appeal so why don't we come back after we get a
decision. How about a status?

THE COURT: I'll put a date determined between the counsel and coordinated with the clerk's office.
How is that?

MR. VERTICCHIO: That's fine, Your Honor. For status?

THE COURT: Yeah. Right. Madam clerk, I will hand you the file so you can make sure they get copies, which they're going to want. All right, ladies and gentlemen, exit the courtroom as directed by the sheriff. Court adjourned.

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