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Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:30 PM
 

QB-Clemson
WR-Clemson
RB-USC
OL-Even
TE-USC- only because we haven't had consistency
DL-Even
LBS-Clemson
CB-Clemson
SS-Even
FS-Even
K-Clemson


I think they have better lines.***


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:33 PM
 



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maybe the offensive line, however, i'll keep our d-line.


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 6:14 AM
 

the o-line could be a push. statistically though, our d-line is superior.

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Re: Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:38 PM
 

USC corners are better


ehhh Im gonna say no^^^


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:41 PM
 

Our CBs have been good all year.

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Unfortunately, I disagree with your voting of the


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:41 PM
 

offensive lines.

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Their OL is better


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:50 PM
 

We will have trouble getting pressure with just 4

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Re: Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:53 PM
 

QB - Even
WR - Clemson
RB - USC
OL - USC
TE - USC
DL - USC (Although Beasley is unbelievable pass rusher)
LB - Clemson
CB - USC
Safties - Even
ST - Clemson

I've always thought this kind of comparison is silly. Because Our OL doesn't play your OL. It should be OL vs DL, WR vs. DB etc.


You honestly believe Connor Shaw = Tajh Boyd?

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Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:56 PM
 

wow

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Re: You honestly believe Connor Shaw = Tajh Boyd?

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Posted: Nov 25, 2013 11:04 PM
 

What do you expect..the only games USC fans have seen him play are the last couple years against USC.


You know they watch every one of our games


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 8:20 AM
 

Hoping to see us lose so they can crow about it.

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Connor Shaw can only throw 30 yards down field -- weak arm***

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Posted: Nov 25, 2013 11:00 PM
 




how in all honesty, can you put shaw on the same page as


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 6:17 AM
 

as boyd ? ask anybody other than fan's of clemson or usuc, that knows the game of football, and see the answer you get.

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Re: Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 8:45 AM
 

Agree with your last sentence. This is how I would put the units:

Clemson OL vs South Carolina DL: Large advantage SC
South Carolina OL vs Clemson DL: Even to possibly slight advantage Clemson
Clemson WR vs South Carolina DBs: significant advantage Clemson
South Carolina WR vs Clemson DBs: Our Corners have played well but our safeties haven't...I'm not particularly well versed on South Carolina's WRs, but I've heard this is a weak area for SC, so I'll say even.

These are the only real direct matchups I can think of. Overall, Tajh is a better QB than Connor Shaw but Tajh has played terrible in both of his games against South Carolina and Shaw played very well in 2011...so for this, I think it's fair to call the QB matchup even. I think it's going to be critical for us to successfully run some draw plays with Hot Rod early in the game in order to keep Tajh clean, and mentally unshaken. If we can do this, I think we will be in great shape. Ultimately the game hinges on him.

The RB position is also an advantage for South Carolina.


Lol


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:56 PM
 

You give us too much credit. USC has the better more aggressive D. They are just an all around more physical football team. Stopping Shaw in the pocket won't be the problem, it's when his ugly ### gets outside and scrambles.

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USC has a giant hole where linebackers are supposed to play


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:59 PM
 

Also, our D-Line is every bit as physical, and our linebackers are far superior. We do have a big question mark at FS.

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Re: Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 9:58 PM
 

COOT logic...what do you expect?!!!


What makes Boyd better?


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 10:14 PM
 

Boyd has flashier statistics that come with being in a passing offense.

Boyd has 120 more attempts yet only 9 more touchdowns and 6 more interceptions.

Take out the last game when Shaw went to the bench early, Boyd only has 5 more TD passes with 6 more interceptions.


Boyd did manage to beat Georgia this year***


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 10:21 PM
 



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Re: Boyd did manage to beat Georgia this year***


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 11:59 PM
 

Better brag about that UGA win while you still can


Re: Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 10:18 PM
 

Boyd has much less playing time than Shaw, he's sat the second half in several games, hope Shaw plays like he did against Florida and it will be an "L" for the peckers!!!


I think Boyd is a more accurate passer,


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 10:23 PM
 

but I think Shaw stays calmer in the pocket which is key to the ashes he's had. Both are really good imo. Their OL is one of the best in the country. Our D may be a tad better than theirs from to to bottom, but we will see which one has the most affect on the other's offense. Go Tigers!

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Ashes? Supposed to say success!***


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 10:26 PM
 



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Boyd will be an NFL QB, Shaw will not


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 10:51 PM
 

Tajh is 10x better QB. Shaw spent most of his career running zone read keepers. This is the first year he has been a descent passer, and a lot of that comes from Davis being so dangerous on PA passes.
We have atleast 3 future NFL WR's, where as SC has one.... If he can stop being suspended at some point and actually see the feild.
TE- SC is better mainly because their TE's are actually blockers most of the time an slip out on occasion and catch a pass, where as Clemsons are mainly recievers. But much better recievers than SC's TE's.
DL- SC.... Duh
OL- toss up? I would say that we both have a future NFL OT. Thomas for us, Shell for SC. Overall probably leans to SC.
CB's- Clemson. I know V. Hampton has apparently had a break out year and all, but I believe when all are healthy ours are better.
LB- duh.... Clemson
ST- another duh ... Clemson
RB- SC.... Davis is an animal.. Hate it but its true. Hot rod is serviceable but I think our RS freshmen are both better than Rod ( Dye/ Gallman )

Anybody with eyes knows that this game comes down to wether we an block em up front, and can we contain Shaw... That simple... If we establish the run, it will get ugly. Their secondary, especially their LB are not good.. Clowney is all over the feild covering up for their absence nearly every play that gets past the front 4.


Also,

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Posted: Nov 25, 2013 11:00 PM
 

I know our Offense is better than UGA's, UCF's, UK's, UT's and MIZZOU's but somehow those teams either beat SC or scored a bunch. Mizzou was playing a RSF QB and played super conservative once they had a 17-0 lead + have you ever seen a holder botch 2 FG holds in a game? They win if they can do the HS fundimentals on ST.

If UK can score 31 on SC I don't see how Clemson can't. If Tenn can block the clown why can't we?
If Uga can score 41.... Anyway u get my point.


IF Clemson can stop the pass rush, We should win easily***


Posted: Nov 25, 2013 11:03 PM
 




Re: IF Clemson can stop the pass rush, We should win easily***


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 12:00 AM
 

AGREED!!!!!


i agree, rex. 3rd down defense is another key for us.


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 6:23 AM
 

we improve in those two areas from last years game, and we win by 14+.

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Re: Clemson vs USC/position vs position


Posted: Nov 26, 2013 9:16 AM
 

They have an edge on their DL vs our OL and with Blanks out, they certainly have an advantage in the secondary.

Other than that, your list looks pretty good.


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