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Looks like the traditional media calls are mostly complete.
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Looks like the traditional media calls are mostly complete.


Nov 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

306-232 in the Electoral College, pending certification and any re-counts.

Looks like the AP hasn't called GA and NC yet, nor Fox.

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Saw something interesting.


Nov 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

Trump will pardon all his friends and family, then resign, and have Pence pardon him. Before inauguration day.

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You can't pardon someone who has never been


Nov 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

convicted of a crime.

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Can't be bothered with details (or facts)***


Nov 13, 2020, 3:02 PM



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To be fair, I think Tiggity was mocking people saying that.***


Nov 13, 2020, 3:03 PM



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Then how did Gerald Ford pardon Nixon?***


Nov 13, 2020, 3:14 PM [ in reply to You can't pardon someone who has never been ]



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Yeah, Prod seems to be wrong on this one...


Nov 13, 2020, 3:40 PM

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/07/can-president-bush-pardon-people-who-haven-t-even-been-charged-with-a-crime.html


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Re: Yeah, Prod seems to be wrong on this one...


Nov 13, 2020, 3:59 PM

But what would the pardon be for?

Do you have to be specific, or can you just issue a blanket: "President Donnie is hereby pardoned for any and all crimes he may have committed at any point in his life ever, including the ones he hasn't even committed yet, so if he does decide to go bust a cap in a guy on Fifth Avenue, that's like, totally cool too".

Because this is sounding like license to go all Grand Theft Auto once you leave office.

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Ford's Pardon of Nixon was a blanket statement...


Nov 13, 2020, 4:09 PM

"Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974."

So, the precedent is there, the timeline would just need to be extended, I guess? Not sure.

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In 2017 Trump was asking if he could be pardoned for


Nov 13, 2020, 5:55 PM [ in reply to You can't pardon someone who has never been ]

violations prior to becoming President in 2016.

See link below for Trump cases waiting for him when he is no longer president. There are several similar links like the one below if you google search.


https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-trump-faces-lawsuits-and-legal-threats/


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