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Can Travis surpass cj

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 6:15 PM
 

In terms of their legacy at Clemson. If Travis stays after next season he will own every record at rb in school history. I know cj was a return man also.


Maybe...

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 6:39 PM
 

But I’m almost certain he won’t return for his senior year. CJ did. He earned a place in the hearts of fans for that move. I remember the North stands chanting CJ and then the south chanting Spiller his senior season. He was relentless.


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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:08 PM
 

You may be right, but he is not a prototypical NFL back. I think that probably he could profit from another year in a D-1 program and especially a D-1 weight room. Travis is only 200 lbs, which is small by NFL standards. I'm no expert, but I think Travis might profit from another year at Clemson, and another year in a top collegiate weight room.


nah... he needs what any NFL RB needs


Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:28 PM
 

a coach that will play to his strengths and an effective OLine for those strengths... his listed weight may be 200 but he played closer to 210 this year. He needs to determine his best weight and not just weight because we saw what happens with just weight with Feaster this year... if ETN produces next year like this past year, he will be ready for the NFL...

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Posted: Feb 24, 2019 8:14 AM
 

he'll be 220 by NFL time. He dropped a little weight this year to get quicker and it worked

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Re: Maybe...

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Posted: Feb 24, 2019 7:40 AM
 

It should've just been C in the south stands and J in the north stands . Simplicity is your friend .
I handed out flyers but nobody seemed to want to change .
Still a little triggered by all the silly remarks other fans made about my homemade tshirt addressing this matter .

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Not in total yards but it many categories it's not a contest

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 6:46 PM
 

CJ had no blockers, quarterback in the same class as Trevor and nothing of a passing game to take the heat off him.

That's why I say players from different generations and different styles of ball don't compare.

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Re: Not in total yards but it many categories it's not a contest


Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:09 PM
 

I agree.


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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 11:30 PM
 

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Re: Not in total yards but it many categories it's not a contest

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Posted: Feb 24, 2019 8:26 AM
 

^This. ETN is on a better team and compliments the offense. Back in the days of CJ there was a year or two where he was most of the offense, and we probably would have a had several more losses without him.

As for comparing them as backs (because there is discussion of this in the thread) ETN might surpass CJ in rushing yards, but they are two different types of backs. ETN is a fast power back. He runs well between the tackles and outside, and can run through tackles. He's got moves, but he's not gonna break defenders ankles. CJ on the other hand was a more well rounded back with superior receiving skills. He didn't run between the tackles as well, but in space he was almost unstoppable. Add in his return capabilities and he was a vital part of the teams he was on.

Also, ETN will go to the NFL after next year, and will be very smart to do so. The life of most running backs in the NFL these days is short, and he doesn't need to risk a serious injury in college if he is draft eligible. Only way I think he would consider coming back is if his draft stock is low, which I doubt it will be.

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Re: Can Travis surpass cj

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 6:47 PM
 

CJ is my all time favorite and will always be that, he’s been an ambassador for the success you see now and he was a great RB and returner when our OL wasn’t very good compared to now.

ETN is an incredible RB and has the ability to break all the records and be the best RB we have ever had and deserves all the accolades he receives. I hope he gets a Heisman and even if he does CJ will still be 1st in my book because he committed to help build the program so we could have a ETN. Don’t get me wrong I love ETN and he’s one of my all time favorites already!

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 8:44 PM
 




Re: Can Travis surpass cj


Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:11 PM
 

ETN is incredible.


I think we are limited to selecting favorites from those...

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:11 PM
 

who we've watched play. I'm not intending to cast negative comments about those who came and went before CJ but in my short 40 or so years of watching Clemson football CJ stands out as one of a kind. The only one I've seen that I believe I can classify with CJ is Trevor.

When I say 'Trevor has a long way to go,' you can believe I mean he must turn down a first round draft status and return for his senior year before he will share the space in my heart with CJ Spiller.

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Re: Can Travis surpass cj

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:20 PM
 

I agree with you.

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Re: Can Travis surpass cj

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 8:42 PM
 

Nope he doesn’t get enough touches. He and Trevor should both have there names mentioned for Heisman consideration throughout the year it won’t happen though. ETN will share carries and Trevor will get taken out midway through the 3rd quarter in most if not all games. I could only imagine what ETN’s stats would be if he didn’t split carries. He would have broken National records.


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Re: Can Travis surpass cj

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:18 PM
 

I agree with you, but think that the current trend at Clemson of rotating backs, keeping them fresh, and constantly running on "fresh legs," reduces the risk of injury and creates far more productivity in our running game. The pros aren't stupid----they know good running backs when the see them. We don't need to run them into the ground.


It's a bit more than not running them in the ground.


Posted: Feb 24, 2019 7:58 AM
 

There's something special about your #1 running back being fresh late in the game when the other team's defenses are tired. While we always play the third and fourth deep on the bench if we ever get in a tight game you'll see Travis come in and embarrass our opponents.

Ultimately, that is our safety net and the main reason, imo, that we keep him health and fresh.

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CJ and ETN are equal in speed and vision but CJ

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:08 PM
 

could make a tackler miss him in a phone booth... CJ was the best college football player in 2009 and should have been the Heisman winner; proving to be a MUCH better football player on a lesser team than Mark Ingram... there absolutely was not a more dynamic, efficient and effective player on the college field that year...

unless ETN stays for his fourth year and wins the Heisman, he won't surpass CJ in my eyes... I LOVE ETN as a player and as a Clemson Man, but CJ is every bit the Clemson Man and for me, a better back and player because he was outstanding as a returner on kicks and punts...

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Re: CJ and ETN are equal in speed and vision but CJ

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 9:28 PM
 

Hey, great post. CJ didn't have the same level of supporting cast, but both guys were great players. Travis playing with a much better team, but with a touch more punch and power. Love both of them.


CJ and ETN are equal in speed ....


Posted: Feb 24, 2019 10:35 AM
 

CJ was faster by at least a step. ETN has better vision and use of his blockers. We are splitting hairs here. Two of the best backs ALL-TIME in college football.

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Re: Can Travis surpass cj


Posted: Feb 24, 2019 7:35 AM
 

I would have loved to see CJ play on teams as talented as the teams Travis has been fortunate enough to play on.


CJ Spiller came here when...


Posted: Feb 24, 2019 8:03 AM
 

any consideration of a National Championship trophy was a vague dream.

While I love those who play at Clemson now their decision to play at Clemson came with much greater comfort.


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Re: Can Travis surpass cj


Posted: Feb 24, 2019 7:44 AM
 

If he gets 1545 yds this year he will pass Raymond Preister for most yards by a Clemson back .

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Re: Can Travis surpass cj


Posted: Feb 24, 2019 8:43 PM
 

15 games with a sophomore Trevor, without injury, and I'd say it's a dead certainty he passes Priester.

It won't take 15, though.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2019 8:59 PM
 

hope so, but i would say
CJ
Dantzler
ETN


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