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Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 12:15 AM
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I know many of you are tired of the gamecock discussion points. And I have also noticed that the webmasters seem to spend lots of time reading my posts and evaluating the appropriate board for them to reside and moving my stuff around. But certainly talking about Spurrier is allowed on the Clemson football board. I just checked the snow in Clemson on a webcam and saw the amphitheater. And my hatred returned for that one person who I despise beyond all others. So much so, that I would have to admit that in comparison, Steve Spurrier is a great American and that I should apologize for ever saying an unkind word. Because there is nobody in the United States that is a lower form of human being than that one person who I last saw at the amphitheater at Clemson University. I let that person know when I saw them that I was not impressed with their words or their deeds or their thoughts or their existence. That person who should have long ago been put in prison for treason is Jane Fonda.
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Re: Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 12:39 AM
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yes I was present when Jane Fonda came to tiger town many ,
many years ago...you said it all..prison might be too good
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Everybody hates Jane Fonda.***
Feb 13, 2014, 12:46 AM
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Except Michelle Obama, she said Hanoi Jane was a role model
Feb 13, 2014, 8:30 AM
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Re: Except Michelle Obama, she said Hanoi Jane was a role model
Feb 13, 2014, 10:04 AM
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Cannot tolerate Michelle or her husband.
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Jane Fonda
Feb 13, 2014, 2:05 AM
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She has on multiple occasions apologized for her actions. She also called her infamous photo in Vietnam an "unforgivable mistake". She has taken time to reach out to Vietnam vets to apologize to them.
Any person who claims to be a Christian should forgive her. Any who doesn't isn't a Christian by Jesus' definition.
Most right-wing people are extremely ignorant of her actions since that photo.
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But I know things that you may not know - Even so, I would
Feb 13, 2014, 6:03 AM
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not refer to you as ignorant --- Only misinformed.
On a different note --- In comparison to your love and forgiveness for Jane, at what point did you begin loving and forgiving the 9/11 terrorists? Did you do this as you watched the second twin tower collapsing to the ground? Are Christians required to forgive and love everyone equally? If so, why is there a pecking order of how church members are treated based on which sin has been committed? Suggest you allow me to dislike who I please and I will allow you to do the same. If you don't mind, I will honor and love the soldiers killed in Viet Nam until the day I die. But Jane Fonda can rot in hell.
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Re: But I know things that you may not know - Even so, I would
Feb 13, 2014, 6:22 AM
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Best post I have ever read on TNet, by far!!!!! Thanks, tigerinlosangeles!!!
A Vietnam Vet who happens to be a Christian!
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Just what do you reckon ignorant means?
Feb 13, 2014, 9:47 AM
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ig·no·rant
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adjective
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lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
"he was told constantly that he was ignorant and stupid"
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ignorant = liberal***
Feb 13, 2014, 11:03 AM
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Spot on.***
Feb 14, 2014, 10:19 AM
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Re: Just what do you reckon ignorant means?
Feb 14, 2014, 10:48 AM
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Are you certain about the uneducated part? I'm not saying that there is a causal relationship, but there is certainly a correlation between education and liberal views. More educated people are typically more liberal.
This example is certainly on the far end of each's spectrum, but do you remember the clash between the Klan and Socialist parties in Durham. The Klan guys were typically dropouts, or high school grads at best, while the socialists they shot typically held advanced degrees.
That example also shows that the far ends of either side of the spectrum aren't good. The right spot is somewhere in the middle. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a moderate Republican. I worked for George H.W., but have no use for W. I disageed with some of Reagan's policies, but thought that his effectiveness as a communicator and a leader outweighed our philosophical differences. I felt similarly about Bill Clinton, but his talent was in his intelligence and administrative ability.
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Re: Jane Fonda
Feb 13, 2014, 6:32 AM
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catahoula, if Jane Fonda wasn't such a "lefty" she wouldn't have committed those transgressions in the first place. She would have been there helping Americans like most right-wing folks did!!!!!
A right-wing Vietnam Vet!!!
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Re: Jane Fonda
Feb 13, 2014, 6:34 AM
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Forgive is one thing...forget is something all together different. I am not there yet. Jane Fonda, terrorist or anyone who harms another is on my blacklist. I find it hard to hate but sometimes just as hard to forgive. I am sure God understands.....more than us....
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What if you are not a christian and don't like her?
Feb 13, 2014, 7:50 AM
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Yeah me, I don't have to forgive her!
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She only apologized after she realized just how unpopular it
Feb 13, 2014, 8:31 AM
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was. She's still spewing left wing garbage
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Easy to apologize years later and no agenda. What about
Feb 13, 2014, 9:35 AM
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the POW that tried to give her a note for help and was reported? WHY be there in the first place?
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Most?.....Really?
Feb 13, 2014, 9:37 AM
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Really?
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Jane is a classic left wing elitist.
Feb 13, 2014, 9:48 AM
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She dislikes the free market economy we have in this country. She wants us to all be taken care of by the federal government because we are all too stupid or greedy to take care of ourselves.
Meanwhile she will live in wealth, have plenty of money, sell us millions of dollars in merchandise (remember all of the workout videos) and look down upon us, all while dictating her ideology to us. What a two faced hypocrite ! Al Gore is another one !
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Re: Jane Fonda
Feb 13, 2014, 10:34 AM
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I don't think I have ever heard her apologize for what she said about the American Soldiers in Vietnam. She has said she regretted that photo and that she regretted "some of her actions" but she has always said she was glad she went. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Most of what she has said sounds more like attempted justification and damage control than an apology.
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What surprised me is how she screwed up Ted Turners mind.***
Feb 13, 2014, 1:14 PM
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Re: What surprised me is how she screwed up Ted Turners mind.***
Feb 13, 2014, 1:31 PM
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Not surprising. As Elvis said, "been the cause of trouble ever since the world began"!
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Jane Fonda = Judas
Feb 14, 2014, 7:42 AM
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No one in the Christian community has forgiven Judas for being a traitor to my Lord. And no one in America should forgive Hanoi Jane for being a traitor to the American soldiers. She is no different than the Rosenbergs, she should have been hanged for treason
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She really hurt the anti-war movement with her
Feb 13, 2014, 6:40 AM
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actions. This movement was gaining a lot of steam but she went too far .
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Re: Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 7:10 AM
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It was a treasonist act at the time, no matter her later remorse. I, too, wish I could have some "do-overs", but it is hard to unsay what you already said, especially when you said it in front of cameras, and it was broadcast to the world.
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Re: Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 11:38 AM
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The word should have been treasonous. Sorry!
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She was great in
Feb 13, 2014, 7:15 AM
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"On Golden Pond".
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I kid
Feb 13, 2014, 7:19 AM
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For the kidding.
Still dislike Spurrier more than anyone in the realm of CFB.
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But I know things that you may not know...smh
Feb 13, 2014, 7:27 AM
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Yea, the old "inside info". I think it's time you guys let this go. She'll be dead soon enough.
Funny how some of you "fought" for our freedom, but when someone expresses a point of view you don't like.....kill that treacherous #####. One question, what if she was born a "poor, christian,conservative". Would you still hate her, or give her another chance? Think about it for a minute before you answer.
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she posed with the nva at an artillery site. that's treason.
Feb 13, 2014, 7:37 AM
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and no, i wouldn't forgive her no matter how she grew up.
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Expressing an opposing view is fine - Treason is different
Feb 13, 2014, 7:53 AM
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Not sure if you understand the events at the time. By the way, in no way will Jane Fonda's death change my feelings towards her. Starting my senior year in high school attending the funeral of my cousin who died in Viet Nam a few weeks before his hitch was up and seeing that flag draped coffin is beyond a shadow of any doubt the most vivid memory of my life. When I boycotted Jane's visit to the Clemson amphitheater soon thereafter, my religion or party affiliations had nothing to do with it. My cousin's death drove me then and drives me now. The fact that you do not seem to appreciate the difference between expressing a point of view and committing treason is troubling. As a minimum, you may want to refrain from lecturing me or stereotyping who you assume I am or what my motivations are.
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jebus
Feb 13, 2014, 7:34 AM
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The problem with most every "rightist" i know is that independent thoughtIis not a strength. Ever watch duck dynasty ?
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is that an independent or love connection you're making?
Feb 13, 2014, 7:40 AM
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maybe we'll see each other at the scientology meeting next week?
i'll be the one being myself with everyone else in the church, errr group.
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Re: Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 7:41 AM
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AMEN BROTHER!!
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Although
Feb 13, 2014, 7:53 AM
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She could sell VHS work out tapes like nobodies business.
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Jane Fondue
Feb 13, 2014, 7:55 AM
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Has really polarized this crowd . I am guessing that with all this distraction over a b-rate actress there are at least two Spurrier insults that have gone unnoticed in other , more relevant to football threads.
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Treason?
Feb 13, 2014, 7:59 AM
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I was unaware she was selling classified documents. I'm sorry
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nice definition of treason
Feb 13, 2014, 8:05 AM
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Yes, definitely guilty. Aid and comfort, yes. Two witnesses? Well more like millions of witnesses. It is well documented what she said while posing with the communists during war.
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You do not understand the definition of treason***
Feb 13, 2014, 8:06 AM
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i guess you think you have to pull the trigger to be
Feb 13, 2014, 8:10 AM
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convicted of murder,too. treason is much more than what you describe.
"I was unaware she was selling classified documents"
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Posing with the communists
Feb 13, 2014, 8:08 AM
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That right there wins funniest statement of the day. I once posed with a camel ...does that make me an terrorism sympathizer ?
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she posed with the nva, with whom we were at war.
Feb 13, 2014, 8:11 AM
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and yes, they were communist.
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I dont think
Feb 13, 2014, 8:17 AM
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Anybody in their right mind would accuse Jane Fonda of making a prudent decision in doing what she did during a trying time in this nations history , but acts of treason ? That is far fetched and I think a little rabble-rouserish . I understand military ties and people have their rights to be outspoken ...but as Americans under the constitution we are also allowed to get away with just about anything that the soldiers and sailors fight to defend.
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But I have no military ties or party affiliations
Feb 13, 2014, 8:20 AM
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I just have a dead cousin who came home in a box. You are way too quick to label and stereotype.
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Let's move on to a new topic, should Pete Rose be in the HOF
Feb 13, 2014, 8:26 AM
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You would think it was the last week of June on sports talk radio
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And you want to be my latex salesman?***
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yes. on a side note ,he threw me a baseball when i went to
Feb 13, 2014, 8:30 AM
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Re: Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 8:31 AM
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WHAT,you want to put Barbarella(1968) in prison!
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I also had family
Feb 13, 2014, 8:38 AM
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Killed in wartime . An uncle in Korea and a second cousin in Desert Storm. I am not in any way downplaying the feeling of nationalism and dislike for perceived acts of treason. However , a bad actress in a publicity stunt cavorting around with the enemy didn't jeopardize the U.S.military effort , or give any advantage to the NVA.
I guess I just disagree that it was actually treason , but I understand the rights of others who disagree.
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Thanks for this post - We can agree to disagree***
Feb 13, 2014, 8:41 AM
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improving their morale IS helping the enemy. it also hurt
Feb 13, 2014, 8:49 AM
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our troops as they had already heard of the protests back home, and then to see hanoi jane posing with the enemy, talk about a punch in the gut.
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Really???? A publicity stunt?? You need to get informed
Feb 13, 2014, 9:42 AM
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before making some of your statements!!
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Someone TD'd me !
Feb 13, 2014, 8:46 AM
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I guess I should come to grips with my scoring depletion. I just wanted to get past "junkie". Who wants to be labeled that ? Think I would be better with p
"Pinko Fonda-nite" than being called a junkie.
Oh well , if I am a junkie then the Clemson Tigers are my fix ! GO TIGERS
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i don't think tds work against point totals; they only help
Feb 13, 2014, 8:52 AM
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calculate your pulse, but don't quote me.
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"i don't think tds work against point totals; they only help
Feb 13, 2014, 8:56 AM
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calculate your pulse, but don't quote me."
deadsolidperfect
Yes, you are correct.
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awesome, now that i got that out of the way, losing my
Feb 13, 2014, 9:00 AM
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virginity is next on the list.
fingers crossed...
[dood joke in 3...2...]
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Do you need to wait until they
Feb 13, 2014, 9:05 AM
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drop?
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idk
Feb 13, 2014, 9:06 AM
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is that important?
maybe i should read up on this first... is there a brochure?
tia
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after the last few days, tigernet seems like a good place
Feb 13, 2014, 9:09 AM
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to start my quest.
waiting...
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LbU will be here soon. Be patient***
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thanks gwp, i has the nervous...
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i hope it lasts.
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Amateur [49]
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As a Christian I forgive her, as an american she isnt worthy
Feb 14, 2014, 10:54 AM
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To be an american
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Legend [19352]
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Re: Someone TD'd me !
Feb 13, 2014, 12:05 PM
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please reply to the person you are replying to not the OP over and over again.
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MVP [514]
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I was also there!
Feb 13, 2014, 8:53 AM
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I recall that as if it were yesterday. She should have been thrown into the reflection pool!
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CU Medallion [50500]
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Re: I was also there!
Feb 13, 2014, 9:05 AM
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I had to read this - thought you meant you were also in Hanoi. The closest I ever got was just south of the DMZ.
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All-In [27366]
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She's an amateur compared to your president.***
Feb 13, 2014, 9:30 AM
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Orange Blooded [2537]
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looks like you got some haters or anti-muricans on your tail
Feb 13, 2014, 12:09 PM
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WHY would someone dislike your post SO much as to thumbs down it...TWICE?
that's just un-American...
Fonda's a lib-hippie-commie idiot. i've read all about it & the only thing was ever good for was to look at
& maybe helping house-wives stay fit, lol
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Trainer [28]
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Re: Guess who I dislike more than Spurrier?
Feb 13, 2014, 12:34 PM
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I'm an ex-Naval Aviator and believe me- we took hating her to a new level. It was common at most O-Clubs I stopped at for libations to see her face in the bowl of at least one urinal.
This was all slightly before her apology tour but by then it was ingrained in the culture. She said herself her action were "unforgivable". On that, we agree.
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All-In [38422]
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Snopes
Feb 13, 2014, 3:57 PM
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Debunks the entire story of Jane Fonda and her supposed treasonous acts in North Vietnam ...saying that the soldiers she met were never in danger (their own written statements) and that the entire hooplah was a fabrication from overzealous and downright dishonest people who were never in contact with Jane Fonda. If you read the article it sums the whole thing up as basically untrue and specifically as the creation of "grapeviners" who had no involvement at the time. Basically , it was made up and the press quoted people who eithet didn't know what had happened or were liars to begin with.
Glad I read that. I didn't want to be "uninformed" or believe the words of others who claim to know themselves...but may have been misinformed themselves.
Thanks Snopes !
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110%er [5776]
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You are confusing what I knew at the time of Jane's visit to
Feb 13, 2014, 10:59 PM
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Clemson with what has transpired since the invention of the internet. I detested Jane Fonda before I quit using my slide-rule when the pocket calculator was invented. So don't confuse me with someone who gets confused by internet fake stories.
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110%er [6208]
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TigerNet:
Feb 13, 2014, 11:21 PM
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"Stupid, even by Southern standards."
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CU Medallion [51991]
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More rewritten history***
Feb 14, 2014, 12:06 AM
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110%er [6654]
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Saban?***
Feb 13, 2014, 8:01 PM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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he now ranks right up there with jane fonda in my book !
Feb 14, 2014, 7:44 AM
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### traitor.
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