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Brad Brownell now owns the longest NCAAT drought
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Brad Brownell now owns the longest NCAAT drought


Mar 25, 2016, 5:41 PM

by coach, in the ACC

With Gregory now fired at GT, Brownell has the longest drought of any ACC coach... 5 years and counting.

Since 2011, 5 ACC schools have not made an NCAAT appearance. Four of those schools have fired their head coach over that time period.

Clemson has not.

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Brownell has pretty much said that being stuck in


Mar 25, 2016, 6:08 PM

the middle of the ACC is really pretty good in the grand scheme of things, and that we're in a good place, doing some good things, and there is positive momentum in the program. Seriously.

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Take that for what it's worth. Wow.***


Mar 25, 2016, 6:43 PM



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DRad might've just given him another year.***


Mar 25, 2016, 6:45 PM



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Re: Brownell has pretty much said that being stuck in


Mar 25, 2016, 6:45 PM [ in reply to Brownell has pretty much said that being stuck in ]

The AD certainly reinforced that line of thinking with the contract Clemson is stuck with.

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In other words...


Mar 25, 2016, 9:13 PM [ in reply to Brownell has pretty much said that being stuck in ]

"I've done all I can. You guys paid me off, and I'm not worried about anything. So get over it, Clemson fans. We got who we got."

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If only I earned $1.5M per yr, I'd be in good place too


Mar 26, 2016, 5:02 PM [ in reply to Brownell has pretty much said that being stuck in ]

How about you guys?

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Re: Brad Brownell now owns the longest NCAAT drought


Mar 25, 2016, 7:28 PM

> by coach, in the ACC
>
> With Gregory now fired at GT, Brownell has the
> longest drought of any ACC coach... 5 years and
> counting.
>
> Since 2011, 5 ACC schools have not made an NCAAT
> appearance. Four of those schools have fired their
> head coach over that time period.
>
> Clemson has not.

In 4-5 years those same schools will fire the coach they are about to hire. It is a never ending cycle because typically the coach is not the issue. How many coaches has GT fired since Bobby Cremins left the program? Guess Hewitt and Gregory forgot how to coach.

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Re: Brad Brownell now owns the longest NCAAT drought


Mar 25, 2016, 9:37 PM

hewitt was the victim of his own success, that's why he got canned. And it's basketball, 4-5 years is plenty to recruit players, install a system, and make an NCAA tournament.

I mean, unless it's Clemson, because apparently it takes at least 7 years unless you're cliff Ellis, Rick Barnes, or Oliver Purnell.

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Re: Brad Brownell now owns the longest NCAAT drought


Mar 26, 2016, 5:48 PM

> hewitt was the victim of his own success, that's why
> he got canned. And it's basketball, 4-5 years is
> plenty to recruit players, install a system, and make
> an NCAA tournament.
>
> I mean, unless it's Clemson, because apparently it
> takes at least 7 years unless you're cliff Ellis,
> Rick Barnes, or Oliver Purnell.

Ellis was a cheater who can claim marginal success. Barnes was a very good coach who took off at first opportunity. OP cashed out when he saw progress was unsustainable.

BTW we finished middle pack this year which is pretty good given we had no home gym or facilities.

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haha.... "pretty good"


Mar 26, 2016, 5:58 PM

who cares?

What does Clemson have to show for that "pretty good" year? Anything? NCAAT bid? NIT bid? ACCT win?

nada, nothing, zero


5 years in a row without NCAAT bid

2 total postseasons in 6 years

2 ACCT wins in 6 years



but hey... we're doing "pretty good"

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Curious---have any of the schools who fired their coaches


Mar 25, 2016, 8:18 PM

made the dance since they hired a new coach ('cept GaTech)??

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not sure the point of that...


Mar 25, 2016, 8:56 PM

VPI - hired Buzz - clear progress

WF - hired Manning - going into 3rd year, and he'll be under pressure

BC - bad, and still bad

GT - fired Gregory

there is nothing you can point to, at this point, to say these schools made bad hires (minus possibly BC)

clearly the point is that there was an expectation that was not being met...

Clemson has made the postseason 2 times in 6 years, and no NCAAT appearance in 5 years. Other places clearly made a decision to move on, where we have not. It doesn't mean you'll make the best hire. It means you are not settling for mediocrity.

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Re: Brad Brownell now owns the longest NCAAT drought


Mar 26, 2016, 4:35 PM

DRad is related to the "The Settlers".

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Well


Mar 26, 2016, 5:39 PM

ONE MORE YEAR!

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Nobody else had to endure losing K.J. McDaniels


Mar 26, 2016, 5:59 PM

Most programs would have just folded.

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Brownell is just unlucky... now he has to weather the storm


Mar 26, 2016, 6:00 PM

of losing Blossomgame... probably will need 3+ years to recover


but let's just exceed wherever we are picked preseason

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Now that we are losing Jaron Blossongame...


Mar 26, 2016, 6:15 PM

I think if we could could just come within 5 wins of this past season I say we should all be thrilled and give CBB an extension. Most coaches would do much worse I am sure. Luckily he makes up fir much of that with x's and o's. It's hard to get blindsided like that losing a player early. As an ACC coach, or college basketball coach in general, you don't expect any of your players not to stay 4 full years. They are student athletes. CBB has been through a lot.

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When did Jaron sign with an agent and say that he is definitely leaving?***


Mar 26, 2016, 7:15 PM



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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Good point. The program may be saved. I was off. ***


Mar 26, 2016, 9:54 PM

nm

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Dabo is tied with Jimbo for the longest


Mar 26, 2016, 7:03 PM

Losing streak in the college football playoff of all coaches from the ACC.

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CBB wants to know what the ACC record is?


Mar 27, 2016, 8:46 PM

He's good for about 4-5 more non productive years.

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