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TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson


Posted: Sep 19, 2018 10:58 AM
 

 
5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

Five-star Porter-Gaud (Charleston, S.C.) guard Josiah James made a surprise commitment to Tennessee over Clemson on Wednesday morning in an announcement at his Read Update »



Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:00 AM
 

dang, I thought he picked Tennessee?

SEC School????

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:03 PM
 

So, basically he chose Tennessee over Clemson because it's different and no one thought he would choose TN? Did anyone else read it that way? Or he just lead everyone on. Seems too big of a decision to just pick a random school.


Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:26 PM
 

I watched a little of his tape. In the limited stuff I saw, you could tell he provides really smooth, offensive guard play, but I didn't see him play even a glimpse of defense at all. Hardly even attempted to provide any cover or opposition at all every time down the court. I wonder if the thought that Brownell is known as a "defensive guru" hurt us in this situation? Of course Barnes was also a defense-first coach at Clemson, but not really known for that so much now.

I think this "miss" may hurt us more with not getting a momentum bump with future recruits than his actual results that we would have seen on the court. Every team certainly needs a go-to scorer too though. It stinks to miss out on another quality in-state recruit for sure.


Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:48 PM
 

It sounds like he believes in Rick Barnes more than Brad Brownell unfortunately. I say that because you spoke about building a legacy. You could have done that at Clemson just as easily as he could have at Tennessee. Apparently he just didn't like Clemson. At least he didn't like us enough to commit to us.

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:00 AM
 

Send the kid an invoice for this last weekend. Make him pay face value for the ticket to the game, etc.

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:35 PM
 

This is a blow in far as building to being a true ‘player’ in the ACC. Transfers are not gonna keep panning out as good as our current players have turned out. Tough tough news to hear

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Transfers are our only hope.***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:01 AM
 




Re: Transfers are our only hope.***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:07 AM
 

We have a great combo of both true frosh and transfers.

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Re: Transfers are our only hope.***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:37 AM
 

Right now Brad can get good transfers and marginal top 100 to 150 players. To get to the top 50 type he needs to break thru and get a NBA first round draft pick or two. Case closed...


Re: Transfers are our only hope.***


Posted: Sep 20, 2018 7:02 PM
 

I agree, I think he's pretty much figured out the only way to compete is through bringing
in good transfers.

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:06 AM
 

He was probably a one and done anyway. I don't care that we didn't land him. No huge loss.

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This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:09 AM
 

Unreal


Re: This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:11 AM
 

I will try to survive.

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Re: This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:16 AM
 

Hey Bulldog your school wasn’t even considered so mind your manners if you have any.

Have a nice day.

Go Tigers ??!!


Re: This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:31 AM
 

LOL you are utterly stupid if you think this is devastating to Clemson basketball, you're as dumb as every other coot and mutt that comes over here. Stay home.

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Re: This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:23 PM
 

Yep, he is utterly devastating to his personal character IMO!!!

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Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:31 PM
 




Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:36 PM
 

Clemson boosters paid Tee Higgins $280k for his signature.


Prove it or GFY.***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:45 PM
 




Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:03 PM
 

Money well spent.


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 5:04 PM
 

Everyone knows you didn't spend a dime

lmao


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:25 PM
 

Did you get that utterly stupid all by yourself!!!

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Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:40 PM
 

Electrical engineer. Yeah I'm a real dummy.


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:04 PM
 

LOL - - electrocuted apparently


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 5:02 PM
 

Sick dad joke


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:36 PM
 

if your degree is from tennessee, you are a certified dumb @$$...lol

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Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:55 PM
 

Why? Because Tennessee stole a recruit from y'all? Grow up Cledus


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 7:57 PM
 

You can say you are anything on a message board. Sadly your posts are more the quality of a KFC fry cook.


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***


Posted: Sep 20, 2018 11:51 AM
 

Big deal, during my very long career in industry, I met dozens of complete idiots with electrical engineering degrees! What was your GPA when you graduated from which university?

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Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:59 PM
 

LOL yeah, right, who wants to play for that dumpster fire right now in Tennessee. Wait, how much did we pay for Rodgers? How much did we pay Hunter to flip? You $$$$$$EC clowns are so used to throwing out money, you think everyone else did. Man, you duds are dumb.

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Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 5:02 PM
 

####. You salty.

Take a break from sniffing your own farts for about 10 minutes then come back when something useful / doesn't make you sound like a total cuck.


Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 6:53 PM
 

We 100% pay recruits. All of the big schools do. Don’t be naive.

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Re: Clemson won’t pay so will never get these guys. Need to learn from Kirby about the Bagman***


Posted: Sep 21, 2018 12:23 PM
 

Prove it coot


troll much?

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:05 PM
 

Loser.

Win something in football then get back to us.


This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:09 AM
 

Unreal


Re: This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:52 AM
 

Meh

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Re: This is utterly devastating for Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:09 PM
 

Go back to licking your balls and sniffing #####.


Even Georgia had to take a peek...***

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Posted: Sep 20, 2018 12:49 PM
 



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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:10 AM
 

It might not be a big loss for Clemson but it still would be nice to land one of these big fish one day. Go tigers

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:14 AM
 

It might help for landing other recruits. I feel good about our recruiting overall though.

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If he’s a one and done I agree***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:58 PM
 



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Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:13 AM
 

Why would this be a surprise? Brad Brownell has demonstrated his inability to deliver elite talent for the last 7 years, but delivers on a 6 year job extension for his teams mediocre results on the court. Now that's surprising.


Which former Clemson coach delivered on 'Elite' talent?

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:24 AM
 

.....

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Re: Which former Clemson coach delivered on 'Elite' talent?


Posted: Sep 20, 2018 11:55 AM
 

The one who got us on probation!!!

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Re: Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:33 AM
 

You’re not a moron it’s the world that’s screwed up


Re: Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:49 AM
 

You're an idiot our recruiting has improved drastically under Brownell the past few years.

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We are coming off the best season we've had in 20 years,

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:19 PM
 

spare me that tired BS


Brownell can recruit.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:01 PM
 

Have you not been paying attention to our recruiting the last few cycles?

We've missed on a few 5 star recruits, but at least we're in the conversation now. We weren't in it for those types of players at any point in our past, with the exception of when Tates Locke was our coach (and he was paying players).

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You misspelled "CAN"T"


Posted: Sep 21, 2018 12:13 PM
 

You don't get credit for being under consideration. You either get the recruits or you don't.

I think BB is a decent coach and a nice guy. He hasn't shown he will ever be a great recruiter. Guys that can recruit well as special. They can sell.


Re: Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:06 PM
 

K.J McDaniels, Gabe Devoe, and Donte Grantham say hi!!!!!!


Re: Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 8:54 PM
 

After 7 years...two very late round NBA picks that lasted one year. Yea, BB is really an overachiever on the recruiting trail. Please spare me the orange tinted BS. DRad should be canned for giving him 6 more years.


Re: Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2018 9:02 AM
 

Another idiotic comment.

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Re: Brownell cannot recruit, but he has a very good agent.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 8:57 PM
 

After 7 years...two very late round NBA picks that lasted one year. Yea, BB is really an overachiever on the recruiting trail. Please spare me the orange tinted BS. DRad should be canned for giving him 6 more years.


#NeverAgain

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:13 AM
 

We have been Zionned again! Just when everyone projects a 5* to Clemson and I believe them, an 18 yo rips our heart out again. Why can't we close on these BB recruits?

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Re: #NeverAgain

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:16 AM
 

would love to know what side things he will be getting?


Re: #NeverAgain

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:20 AM
 

It seems to be a trend that elite SC basketball talent teases the in state schools 'til the end and dumps them at the altar. I wonder if they call each other and laugh it up.


Re: #NeverAgain

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:18 PM
 

honestly, is it really a surprise. At least he didn't "shock" the world and go to Duke, that was a total tease right there


Re: #NeverAgain

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:32 AM
 

LOL if this ripped your heart out, you need to adjust priorities. I'm still in Alabama waiting to go home back to Southport, NC. This guy not picking CLemson is not even on my radar.

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lol - now that's funny right there!***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 2:07 PM
 



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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:13 AM
 

I feel bad for coach Brownell . Landing a recruit of this kid's caliber would have been more than huge . I'm actually surprised it wasn't Duke or Clemson . SEC basketball isn't very good most years , outside of UK and UF .
We still have a really nice looking class with some good young players mixing in with our veterans .
Too bad he chose elsewhere , but CBB will be fine and will build on our Sweet 16appearance going forward.

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Wow, this has never happened to Clemson before. Shocking.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:23 AM
 

.

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Rick Barnes couldn’t get this guy when he was at Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:23 AM
 

He never signed a 5-star while he was here.

In fact, his last couple of years were notable mainly for recruiting disappointments like this one.

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you Know he probably bad mouthed Clemson to this recruit

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:25 AM
 

that’s ok, if he couldn’t win a title at Texas, he sucks

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Re: Rick Barnes couldn’t get this guy when he was at Clemson


Posted: Sep 21, 2018 12:27 PM
 

Yes he did but the guy went pro over seas lol


Ouch - crushed dreams two years in a row***

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 11:26 AM
 



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I'm sorry but that's a punk move. To lead Brownell on

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 12:26 PM
 

like that, come to Clemson last weekend and live it up, then pull Tennessee basically out of his ###, that's nonsense. Good riddance.


Punk move?

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:34 PM
 

I believe its just called recruiting.


No, it's something that happens in recruiting that I

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:02 PM
 

find totally distasteful. If you know you aren't going to a particular school, don't jerk a coach around. Living it up on Clemson's dime last weekend was just taking advantage.


Re: I'm sorry but that's a punk move. To lead Brownell on

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 8:46 PM
 

Agree...speaks to character. Move on and coach em up. Go Tigers


Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:28 PM
 

That stinks!!!


Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:41 PM
 

Wish him the best. Pray that he finds success in college and life after college.

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NO......

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:47 PM
 

.... it's not devastating. Tennessee just offered more to him and his family. ($$$, car, etc.)

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Re: NO......

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 1:57 PM
 

It just means more


No wonder Tennessee football is floundering

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 2:24 PM
 

spending good booster money on basketball recruits? Silly.

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Hey, at least we’re creeping up into the top 2-3 for some of these guys

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 2:01 PM
 

It seemed like we’d never even be in the conversation for elite basketball players until finally last year with Zion. Of course, these are “local” kids from SC... tough pill to swallow. Maybe one day soon we’ll finally break through.


Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 2:43 PM
 

“Just when I think we’re in, they pullllll us back out”

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It's certainly a shame but not the end of the world

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 2:55 PM
 

Give Brad more time and he'll keep building. This kids statements were quite odd. His opportunity to build his own legacy was wide open at Clemson. It's not like Duke where you are following 100 first round picks. He very much could have been the signature Clemson player. Imo he had a chance to be a headliner on a good team and mysteriou$ly pa$$ed up on it. It's a shame his parents will have to travel 3 times as far to see him play.


Honestly, our talent level is well above Tennessee's at this

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:04 PM
 

point. We obviously don't have Duke or UNC talent, but we are definitely more talented than Tennessee.

I agree with your point, he could've been a star at Clemson though. He's good enough to be a star anywhere he goes, including Duke.

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Re: Honestly, our talent level is well above Tennessee's at this

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 9:29 PM
 

Maybe Tennessee lost a lot of talent from their team last year, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that they did beat us at home even though it was a pre-season game.

Honestly, I know that game does not count and perhaps was not indicative of the ability of the two teams, but I would like to think that beating Rick Barnes (pre-season or not) would have been a priority and would have really helped Brad Brownell in the eyes of the Clemson fan base.


If our fans care that much about beating a former coach who


Posted: Sep 20, 2018 10:09 PM
 

left on bad terms 20 years ago, then we need new fans. Besides, it was a preseason game, and we won when it counted - the NCAA Tournament.

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 3:06 PM
 

It's bad when we lose an in state talent like that, but it is even worse when they can't see through the lies being told to them by coaches that will say or promise them anything to get them committed to their program. And once they learn that, it's to late to change their mind without losing a year of their eligibility!!!

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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson


Posted: Sep 20, 2018 11:54 AM
 

Best of luck to you Josiah James!

BTW, I have always heard from my Auburn, Georgia, and Tennessee friends that the definition of basketball is "a game played between football season and spring practice"... so all you T-netters shouldn't get too upset!


Some of us actually care about basketball too.***


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Brad will have to go the way of transfers***


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Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson


Posted: Sep 21, 2018 12:41 AM
 

I hope he enjoys watching us play in the big dance on TV from the comfort of his home. GO TGERS!


Re: TNET: 5-star guard picks SEC school over Clemson


Posted: Sep 21, 2018 12:18 PM
 

I said it way back before we signed him to a huge extension. BROWNELL CANT RECRUIT IN HIS OWN BACKYARD. Relies on transfers.


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