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Meet the next AG***
Oct 30, 2018, 12:17 PM
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So Trump is guilty of collusion?
Oct 30, 2018, 12:39 PM
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It's beginning to look like a conspiracy to take over congress.
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Your title and first sentence don't match up***
Oct 30, 2018, 12:19 PM
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This is at least the right step towards this process.
Oct 30, 2018, 12:29 PM
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Not some wannabe dictator claiming he'll make it so.
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Oculus Spirit [93652]
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He put the subject on the table.
Oct 30, 2018, 12:35 PM
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Be fair. Trump expects this to end up with the SCOTUS which I think we all assume is an eventuality. If a POTUS expects to do something so controversial he should expect to need some help from congress.
Imo, this was coordinated. One day Trump makes a bold statement and the next day a pub announces he's sponsoring a bill for that very cause. Tell me this isn't part of the hype about the mobs coming from Central America. Go ahead.
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That's not how it's going to work.
Oct 30, 2018, 2:47 PM
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Y'all are assuming the President or the SCOTUS have a say in this. They don't. This is going to take Congress and the States, and the votes aren't going to be there.
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This is the correct way to address the issue...
Oct 30, 2018, 1:01 PM
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if you want it addressed...you know, all legal and stuff.
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I don't see, fundamentally, how it's that much different.
Oct 30, 2018, 1:09 PM
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Each branch would be taking an action that may not be constitutional, and would find out via the Supreme Court. I don't see why Congress doing so is any more "right" than the President doing so.
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Because the President is supposed to enforce laws....
Oct 30, 2018, 2:15 PM
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and as the law stands now, if you are born in the US, you are a US citizen.
Congress is supposed to create and change laws...therefore, a change to existing law should be made by our representatives in Congress.
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Mainly a matter of interpretation...
Oct 30, 2018, 3:24 PM
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You could interpret the executive order that he's executing the existing law in a different way. I'm sure many disagree with that, of course.
But are trying to do the same thing, though. If the President is proposing an EO that he knows is unconstitutional, then you must also say that Congress would be trying to pass a law that it knows is unconstitutional.
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But there are laws on the books that cover immigration....
Oct 30, 2018, 3:47 PM
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policy.
The correct way to push an issue and see what the courts say about it is to pass/change a law...not an executive decree.
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This will lead, I would like to think, to a very healthy debate
Oct 30, 2018, 1:09 PM
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on the issue.
I think the value of the language in the 1800s is lost today, and I don’t think that the drafters ever considered people coming to this country just to give birth and have a child that is a US citizen. Almost no other developed country has this policy.
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V excited for my Canadian anchor baby!***
Oct 30, 2018, 2:10 PM
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Another example of Trump and Co. changing the narrative
Oct 30, 2018, 1:19 PM
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for this news cycle. Forget the bombs and the massacre....let's talk changing the constitution!
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IKR? and some still think he’s flat out stupid.***
Oct 30, 2018, 2:04 PM
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Some members of the Jewish community in Pitt
Oct 30, 2018, 3:03 PM
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believe that Trump's connection to and tacit approval of alt-right websites and causes, or at least his failure to disavow those platforms, like gab, etc., have contributed to what has apparently been an increase in the number of anti-Semitic attacks in the US.
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oh come on***
Oct 30, 2018, 3:18 PM
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It seems like the refugee thing was front and center for
Oct 30, 2018, 3:27 PM
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this guy. That's all I'm saying.
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it's front and center for a lot of people...
Oct 30, 2018, 3:37 PM
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the difference is that this guy was either crazy or evil or both. Way too big of a stretch to say that Trump was at all related to this guy's actions....especially considering the guy reportedly hated Trump due to his support of Israel.
Why not blame his actions of those people who were complaining that Trump was in the pocket of Israel....seems that would be equally "logical".
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That's not how confirmation bias works.***
Oct 30, 2018, 3:43 PM
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hasn't it been reported that Robert Bowers hated Trump...
Oct 30, 2018, 3:17 PM
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because he thought he was controlled by "the Jews"??
Are we blaming Trump for this because he's been too tight with Israel?
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trump wants jews and muslims dead***
Oct 30, 2018, 3:32 PM
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Trumps words caused this,
Oct 30, 2018, 3:35 PM
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just like Obama's words caused the BLM riots.
It's scientific, really. I don't know how you don't see it.
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