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Well when we play NC St he can help out with scouting.
Dec 27, 2012, 1:06 AM
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And he's scouted the other ACC teams before as well. Other than that, IDK.
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All-TigerNet [12536]
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He can give us the NC State defensive playbook for next
Dec 27, 2012, 1:10 AM
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year and we still won't hang 62 on them like we did when he was on their sideline.
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Only thing I can think is that they did something right
Dec 27, 2012, 7:19 AM
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against a team we lost to. Oh and he's Brian Dawkins's doppelgänger.
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Because someone much more qualified and knowledgable
Dec 27, 2012, 7:40 AM
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than you did the research and made the choice. Just because you don't understand something (in your infinite wisdom) doesn't make it flawed.
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Re: Because someone much more qualified and knowledgable
Dec 27, 2012, 9:07 AM
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Only gave up 16 to FSU which was much better than our 49!
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All-TigerNet [12536]
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So qualified and knowledgeable people never make bad asst.
Dec 27, 2012, 10:48 AM
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coach hires? We'll see. You've never questioned the appointment or hiring of anyone as long as the person doing the hiring was more qualified than you?
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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people make mistakes all the time...
Dec 27, 2012, 10:52 AM
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see your OP.
your defense of your post is "do people ever make mistakes"?
what a solid effort.
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Orange Blooded [3839]
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they had a good defense with our game being an exception***
Dec 27, 2012, 8:51 AM
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Re: they had a good defense with our game being an exception***
Dec 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
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Why do you say that?
By every measure available, they were terrible. That FSU game was an outlier, much as their game against us, but all the rest were just bad.
In conference:
Passing D - they were 10th, we were 5th
Total D - they were 10th, we were 7th. They gave up 466 ypg.
Scoring D - they were 4th, we were 3rd. Before you get excited, they still gave up 29 ppg.
Nationally, they were 78th in Total D, we were 74th.
I'm sure you can pick out some stats, like Most Yardage After Interceptions Per Game, or some nonsense, and show how great they were, but in most defensive categories, they are not good.
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110%er [9648]
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DC - I'm curious where do you get your stats? The ones
Dec 27, 2012, 10:32 AM
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I look at are different. For example, I have Clemson's Pass D ranked 8th in the conference, not 5th.
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Team Captain [464]
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110%er [9648]
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If they had not played us, their defense ranking would
Dec 27, 2012, 10:15 AM
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have been:
Total Defense - 62nd in the country (with our game included they were 77th)
Pass Defense - 73rd in the country (with our game included they were 94th)
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All-TigerNet [12536]
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Ok then, well thanks for helping my case. Um, you do have
Dec 27, 2012, 10:51 AM
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to count all the games and those numbers weren't great even without our game. In fact, the numbers without our game are bad.
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110%er [9648]
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I was just responding to cu81grad's conjecture that their D
Dec 27, 2012, 11:08 AM
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was good - except when they played us. I just threw some numbers out there - I didn't draw any conclusions from it.
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Re: I repeat and agree, "Why did we hire this one"?
Dec 27, 2012, 9:11 AM
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Why would you use Shakin the Southland for any information? Go there if you want to read rants of a fan who is unhappy no matter what.
Everyone who posts articles on that site are giant crybabies. Pretty sure BLeacher Report gives better info than STS.
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Re: I repeat and agree, "Why did we hire this one"?
Dec 27, 2012, 9:44 AM
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Now that is a good post, mcraft07!!
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Re: I repeat and agree, "Why did we hire this one"?
Dec 27, 2012, 9:41 AM
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Clemson81to85, you must be a coot because your attitude sure is not representative of the Tiger Fans I know.
Take some time and read some of the articles appearing here and other sites and see what recruits, high school coaches and players he has coached, say about him. All very positive about Reed. Lastly, he was recruiting into a system run by a coach that got fired. Would you say that our recruiting has improved since Dabo took over as our HC? Let me help you with the answer - YES, it has, and it will continue to get better as we move back to our rightful position of Number 1 in the ACC.
Welcome, Coach Reed, and as you know, some people are not satisfied with anything!
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WE didn't. The Clemson staff did. C'mon man
Dec 27, 2012, 10:03 AM
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Give it a break. Let people that get paid for it make SOME of the decisions. Give them a little credit. Thanks.
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Why shouldn't we have hired him?
Dec 27, 2012, 10:42 AM
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He is respected in coaching circles, he is known as a good recruiter, and he has meaningful playing experience. Most importantly, he was the top choice of both Dabo and Venables.
It's not fair to look at NC State's overall defense this year and conclude he is a bad hire. That's just ridiculous logic.
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