Because people like you said things like this:

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Once again, I doubt you read the articles or what I said

Feb 27, 2015, 4:43 PM

Because that's not what was said. What I pointed out was that all but 3-8% of the pay gap could be accounted for by different choices that men and women make, and that the question we weren't really asking was whether we want an employment system that gives a greater value than we currently give to the "feminine" choices (those more likely to be made by women) that apparently account for nearly all of the pay gap. Such a system would have to give less value to productivity driven "masculine" choices (the ones that men have been most likely to make). That really shouldn't even be controversial, since I'm not coming down on either side of the issue, and since I'm relying on economic research and not my own opinion.

Would you say that slate.com is conservative? What about Hanna Rosin? Because she basically says the same things I did here: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/gender_pay_gap_the_familiar_line_that_women_make_77_cents_to_every_man_s.html

The thing is that nobody thinks the entire pay gap is due to discrimination, and the best analyses show that only a small amount the gap is even attributable to discrimination (among other things).

Even one of the pieces you posted in support of what you were trying to say (which has shifted from acting like it was ridiculous to say any of the pay gap was due to women's choices to arguing over how much of the gap is due to women's choices) more or less agrees with my main point:

"5. To close the pay gap, we should focus on deterring discrimination.

Passing laws that make it harder for workplaces to discriminate based on sex is important. But gender discrimination accounts for only 25 to 40 percent of the pay gap, depending on which labor economists you consult. And since discrimination is already illegal, the ways in which it persists are subtle and may be challenging to address directly through legislation.

What could make a big difference would be if workplaces reconsidered how they compensate their employees — and were more transparent about it. Rather than disproportionately rewarding workers for putting in long hours and making themselves available around the clock, they should reward high-quality work and allow employees more of the flexibility they need to balance work and family demands.

For example, when Google increased family leave from three months to five and made it fully paid, the company saw a 50 percent drop in the number of moms who quit. Several states and companies are also moving in the direction of offering paid family leave, recognizing that these kinds of family-friendly policies not only boost morale, productivity and loyalty, they also address the other factors that contribute to the pay gap."

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I'm pretty sure you enjoy talking down to people. However, I did read the articles, and I did read what you wrote. I know, I know, it's amazing that someone other than you can read and comprehend. Here is what you wrote.

"Analyses of the "pay gap" already tell us that a large part- perhaps nearly all- of the pay gap is due to differences in the choices that the average man or the average woman makes about their careers."

I don't agree with this statement. I provided links with other people who do not agree with this statement. When you say - perhaps nearly all - you're basically saying "all" you just try and give yourself a little wiggle room. It's a neat trick, but saying, "nearly all" and "all" is essentially the same thing.

Maybe if you weren't bent on being condescending you could take the time to read what I write instead of dismissing it because you don't agree with it.

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Once again, I doubt you read the articles or what I said

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