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Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl
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Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl


Dec 26, 2009, 5:07 PM

Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl

Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney told four of his players, including two defensive linemen, that will not play in Sunday's Music City Bowl after missing a 1 a.m. curfew. Full Story »


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Re: Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl


Dec 26, 2009, 5:12 PM

Before anyone fires on Dabo, remember, this is entirely the Players fault.

It sucks but you have to lay down the law somehow.

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Re: Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl


Dec 26, 2009, 8:14 PM

Agree 100% and I hope he sent them packing. This really makes me provoked that they did not plan well enough ahead to get back in time...no excuse.

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Re: Four players start celebration too soon


Dec 27, 2009, 2:13 PM

In Support of Dabo's decision. They are part of a team. They are part of a program. They have a responcibility and should be focused. Celebrate AFTER THE GAME IS WON. Not on the fieled not before the game.

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Not a chance they'd be suspended if they went to Florida***


Dec 26, 2009, 9:53 PM [ in reply to Re: Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl ]



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Ouch! That's going to leave a mark.***


Dec 26, 2009, 5:12 PM



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OUCH !***


Dec 26, 2009, 5:13 PM



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Great call Dabo! These aren't babies, they're grown men. If


Dec 26, 2009, 5:21 PM

you cant follow coaches rules, you don't play it simple as that

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Re: I have to agree with you.***


Dec 26, 2009, 5:22 PM



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Two big games now Cumbie has cost the team***


Dec 26, 2009, 5:26 PM



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Uhh, what was the first one?***


Dec 26, 2009, 6:03 PM



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Bama , last year***


Dec 26, 2009, 7:50 PM



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As far as I'm aware, we haven't lost tommorow's game yet***


Dec 26, 2009, 9:06 PM [ in reply to Two big games now Cumbie has cost the team*** ]



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GO TIGERS


Yep. If you can't get back to the hotel by 1AM


Dec 26, 2009, 5:29 PM [ in reply to Great call Dabo! These aren't babies, they're grown men. If ]

Then your mind isn't on the game and you should not be playing anyway.

It's the only call Dabo could make.

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Pretty much the reason barry has been a fill in. He has


Dec 26, 2009, 5:32 PM

great abilities, but no dedication.

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Take note Cootville. That is how you do it***


Dec 26, 2009, 5:47 PM



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and hey, at least our guys didn't


Dec 26, 2009, 5:50 PM

steal anything, key anyone’s car, or urinate on the street.

Still, great move by Dabo. These guys should apologize to their teammates for not being focused on the game.

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What a bunch of idiots!***


Dec 26, 2009, 6:03 PM



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I am going to have to be the dissenter here..............


Dec 26, 2009, 6:33 PM

I agree that something should be done, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

It's Christmas for heavens sake and these kids have have some big heartbreaks and are stuck in Nashville having to play Kentucky rather than in Florida playing a decent team... A bowl is supposed to be a reward and I don't think being in Nashville as the number 2 ACCC is a reward...more like punishment.......

Couldn't a one or 2 quarter penalty done the job?.....

I know the discipline speech is coming....I know the "dabo's way or the highway speech" is coming.....

fire away...................

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Re: I am going to have to be the dissenter here..............


Dec 26, 2009, 6:42 PM

No! a quarter are two is not the answer. Dabo did the right thing. He said "Break curfew & you do not play". End of decussion.
Your statement about christmas & the way the bowl games turned out has nothing to do with the players missing curfew. They knew where they were going weeks ahead of time. If they didn't want to miss out on the other things, they should have stayed at home.
Stupidity on the players part. If I were the coach, I would have sent them home also!!!

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Well if that is the case, thank God we had 11 guys who made


Dec 26, 2009, 7:12 PM

it back on time.

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only punish them like this if you DON'T want it to happen


Dec 26, 2009, 7:49 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]

again... Yes, the message is to the team as much as it is to the players that missed curfew.

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There you go. Simple as that.***


Dec 26, 2009, 7:53 PM



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Yes it is!


Dec 26, 2009, 9:18 PM [ in reply to only punish them like this if you DON'T want it to happen ]

Now ALL of the players will know not to put Dabo's word to the test! It doesn't matter how big the game is, you don't follow his rules, you don't play!

Kudos to you, Dabo!

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It was a 1AM curfew, that's not strict and is easy to follow***


Dec 26, 2009, 7:59 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]



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Re: I am going to have to be the dissenter here..............


Dec 26, 2009, 8:11 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]

If Swinney had said "miss curfew and you'll be suspended for 2 quarters," then yes that penalty would have been fine. But I get the feeling that Swinney said "miss curfew and you will not play." Then it seems pretty clear-cut to me. The punishment fits the crime perfectly, especially if they happen to have known the punishment in advance.

1am curfews are set for pretty darn good reasons I imagine...probably something like
1. Stay out of trouble
2. Stay out of trouble
3. Stay out of trouble

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Dec 26, 2009, 8:21 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]

No gray area here. Curfew 1 am. You miss curfew, you don't play. End of story. If you don't enforce rules, then don't have them. We don't want to become cootville west.

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Dec 26, 2009, 9:06 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]

a punishment is pretty melodramatic IMO. They missed the curfew, they don't play. Period.

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GO TIGERS


oddly, no mention of this on the World Wide Leader


Dec 26, 2009, 9:57 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]

obviously not so big a deal

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You always over punish backups


Dec 27, 2009, 2:10 PM [ in reply to I am going to have to be the dissenter here.............. ]

that way you can argue you're a strict disciplinarian when you go easy on a starter.

Standard procedure.

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Or none of the starters have issues?


Dec 27, 2009, 2:16 PM

###### coot.

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There's something in these hills.


Dabo should adopt SOS's "Suspended Until Needed" policy


Dec 26, 2009, 9:01 PM

of punishment...in all honesty, though, good for Dabo -- you have rules; your players break them...there should be consequences.

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lol...yep...PC next year maybe....***


Dec 26, 2009, 9:03 PM



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S.O.B., dadgummit, comeon guys!!!!!----geeeeeezus!!***


Dec 26, 2009, 9:10 PM



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You choose your behavior, you choose the consequences.


Dec 26, 2009, 9:20 PM

Dr. Phil

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"Gamecocks aren’t ready to take college football by storm just yet. They’re not even ready to compete in their own state – Clemson will still own the territory. Gamecocks fans would be smart to keep their heads buried until that time. Avoid talking trash to a much better Clemson program.” -Dustin Tackett


Hold em accountable...good job Coach***


Dec 27, 2009, 12:11 PM



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dang goof. that's your brethren.........................:-)


Dec 27, 2009, 12:12 PM

i feel for the seniors, but come on guys, act like it.

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Re: Four players miss curfew, won't play in Music City Bowl


Dec 27, 2009, 1:02 PM

I agree with Coach Dabo, what if this were a big meeting where huge amounts of money or even worse, someones life was at stake and they missed the meeting or got to the scene too late? I have told my own kids "just because its school or sports these events are preparing you for real life", these are young adults and this lesson may help them and someone else down the road!

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Urban Meyer gave Brandon Spikes a HALF game suspension


Dec 27, 2009, 1:49 PM

Brandon Spikes gouges somebody's eyes and Urban Meyer gives him a HALF-game suspension against cupcake Vandy. Four Clemson players show up late for curfew and Dabo Swinney suspends all of them for an entire bowl game. That's the difference between a win-at-all-costs pro-football coach and a principled coach of student athletes.

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Re: Four players won't play


Dec 27, 2009, 2:08 PM

Dabo did what he had to do. They left him little choice.
It shows that coaches do not have this group focused enough. It will be a long cold night on the bench tonight I hope it stops with this group. Durrell Berry should have been more of a leader as a Sr/Gr team memebr. Does he not understand that the tide has turned with owners and NFL coaches and this stuff is no longer cool or acceptable. Bet Cumbie will rememebr this next year. Gonna make for a long spring training.
If they don't play do they still get a ring when we win.

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