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All-TigerNet [11011]
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We cannot get this fool out of office soon enough
Jun 17, 2020, 4:50 PM
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Storytime with Bolton.
Trump, on several occasions, wanted to "give personal favors to dictators he liked" by offering to kill federal criminal investigations in the US into foreign companies based out of China and Turkey. Trump told Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that he would "take care" of a criminal investigation into a Turkish company being pursued by federal prosecutors in New York and said "that the Southern District prosecutors were not his people, but were Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people." Trump had a poor command over national security and foreign policy issues, including not knowing that the United Kingdom was a nuclear power and asking if Finland was a part of Russia. At the 2019 G20 summit in Osaka, Japan, Trump pleaded with Chinese President Xi Jinping to purchase large quantities of American soybeans and wheat to help Trump's 2020 reelection chances. Trump told Xi that Americans wanted him to be able to serve more than two terms as president. Trump supported China holding Uighur Muslims in concentration camps: "According to our interpreter, Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do," Bolton writes. In intelligence briefings, "much of the time was spent listening to Trump, rather than Trump listening to the briefers," and Trump lacked the respect of many of his high-level staff members. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo listened in on a call between Trump and South Korea's president before Trump's 2018 summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. After the call, Pompeo said he was "having a cardiac arrest" while Bolton said the conversation was like a "near-death experience." At the summit itself, Bolton said Pompeo passed him a note calling Trump "full of s---." Trump, who has frequently referred to Kim as "little rocket man," was fixated on having Pompeo give an autographed copy of Elton John's "Rocket Man" to Kim on a diplomatic trip to North Korea. Trump said it would be "cool" for the United States to invade Venezuela, describing the South American nation as "really part of the United States." In a 2019 meeting in New Jersey, Bolton said that Trump suggested that journalists should be more jailed more easily and forced to give up their sources, calling reporters "scumbags" and saying they should be "executed." Trump's decision to release a statement defending Saudia Arabia and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in November 2018 after the killing of Jamal Khashoggi was meant to distract from an unflattering story about his daughter Ivanka, a White House advisor, using a private email account. Shortly after Bolton joined the White House, former Chief of Staff John Kelly told him, "You can't imagine how desperate I am to get out of here." He added: "This is a bad place to work, as you will find out."
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Thought this was about the Atlanta DA
Jun 17, 2020, 4:53 PM
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But wouldn't mind Trump being gone, too.
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Can Trump find his asz?
Jun 17, 2020, 5:30 PM
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Biden can't even using both hands, a flashlight and a road map.
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Oh, no doubt... It's the T-Rump!***
Jun 17, 2020, 7:37 PM
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LOL
Jun 17, 2020, 5:35 PM
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Oh BS...this is newsworthy....
Jun 17, 2020, 7:50 PM
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There are many respected former Trump admin officials that paint the same picture and it ought to scare the #### out of any Trump supporter...err American.
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At this point, anyone with an ounce of morality...
Jun 17, 2020, 8:17 PM
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Integrity, and human decency will abandon Trump. Anyone who believes in the ideology of our nation would abandon him.
Anyone who still stands by him might as well just admit that he supports the crazy #### that Trump has done as outlined by Bolton.
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Lot o points [154503]
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I bet a ton of people would abandon him if
Jun 17, 2020, 9:39 PM
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There was a better alternative than a crooked senile diaper-filler.
If the left ran a Joe Lieberman-type candidate, it would make Nixon-McGovern look like a close race.
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That would never happen for two reasons
Jun 18, 2020, 12:49 AM
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1 A moderate candidate isn’t winning any primary these days
2 Pubs would just change up the excuses for why they won’t switch unless the Dem person was a moderate (socialism, marxism, not experienced enough, too swampy)
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Re: That would never happen for two reasons
Jun 18, 2020, 3:09 PM
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Except (1) Joe is moderate. He's never been a hero of the left.
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So your argument...
Jun 18, 2020, 12:55 AM
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Is that you agree Trump is a POS, but hey, you don't like Biden, so you gotta vote Trump? Correct me if I'm straw manning you here.
Trump is crooked and senile. He's a creep like Biden. Not sure if he fills diapers or not. Why do you excuse him over Biden?
And do you really think Biden would be suggesting to totalitarian regimes that they set up concentration camps?
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Lot o points [154503]
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Now you’re really infringing on my conclusion jump patent
Jun 18, 2020, 1:09 AM
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Never said I’m voting for Trump. I haven’t decided if I’ll vote for either one of them TBH....abstained in 2016, may do so again. As I said below, if I do vote for one or the other, you’ll never know which, because frankly I’ll be embarrassed of my vote either way.
What I am trying to do is gently explain to you why the large percent of the population who doesn’t see things your way may not be morally deficient so much as in a lose/lose situation.
I don’t think you’re a Biden fan, but I do think your hatred of Trump has tipped the scales in Biden’s (or let’s be honest, whoever else the candidate would have been) favor. They’re both poor choices for such a great country.
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Re: Now you’re really infringing on my conclusion jump patent
Jun 18, 2020, 2:35 AM
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I said let me know if I was unintentionally straw manning you. The subsequent diatribe wasn't necessary.
Okay, so you don't know who you are voting for. Got it. And I'm not arguing that if someone votes Trump that they're morally deficient. I'm arguing that if they're still a supporter, fan boy, and defender of him, they are. There's a difference.
But we can agree that this is an absolute #### choice for president. Once again.
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Lot o points [154503]
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I don’t see much senility at all. He’s just a strange dude.
Jun 18, 2020, 3:36 PM
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Biden is a walking Aricept poster.
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Re: Nope you still don’t get it
Jun 18, 2020, 12:57 AM
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Doesn’t that tell you something about how bad half the country views the other party and the MSM, that they are willing to look past definite personal flaws to support a candidate and party?
Considering that half the country never supported Trump to begin with, and now considering that his support numbers are now in the toilet, at this point, anyone who still loves the man embraces his despicable nature, ideology, and actions.
Some people want a POS authoritarian because they lack the moral compass to guide them in the right direction.
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Lot o points [154503]
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If your moral compass points to Biden, it’s time
Jun 18, 2020, 1:10 AM
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Hit up the compass store.
There is Zero moral high ground to be had for supporting one of these men over the other.
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Agreed, but to argue...
Jun 18, 2020, 2:09 AM
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Biden sucks thus I have to go Trump is pure folly.
You can't say Biden is despicable therefore Trump warrants your vote. That only means you're either siding with a POS because of the letter by his name, or you support his terrible actions.
Hey, Biden isn't the answer. But we at least know Trump is unfit for office and dangerous, thus must be removed.
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Re: Nope you still don’t get it
Jun 18, 2020, 2:25 AM
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I always know when you're conceding defeat; it's when you try to throw in personal jabs against the person debating with you. That's your tell that you can't handle the discussion.
But on to the meat of it. Trump's approval ratings have dipped significantly lately. Currently, he's at 40.8. Here's where that's a big problem.
That number is on par with three other presidents in recent history: He's very close to where George H.W. Bush was at this stage in 1992. He's doing better than Carter at this point, who has the worst all time numbers in the 30s, but he's actually doing much worse than Gerald Ford. I think you see where I'm getting at.
While Obama flirted with some lower numbers in mid 2012, Trump's are much worse. And what is really making it bad for him are the disapproval ratings. Those are now at 55.3 percent. Obama never cracked the 50s in 2012.
That's where an election really matters. While voters may not care for someone like Biden, if disapproval for Trump is high, you know where those votes are going.
Finally, polls are showing Trump's numbers with independents are dropping. They were good in 2016 for him, backing him by 4 points over Hillary. Right now, some are showing independents favoring Biden over him by 11 to 16 points.
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Re: Nope you still don’t get it
Jun 18, 2020, 2:29 AM
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Open your eyes. What adult screams fake news every time something a story is unflattering?
Jun 17, 2020, 9:28 PM
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I can't believe the extents to which you will defend any person, much less, Donald Trump. Pathetic.
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“We” will need a viable choice ... there are none.
Jun 17, 2020, 5:42 PM
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Until there is a reasonable alternative, the “we” you speak of will prefer Trump.
Good luck in November when “we” the people vote for the ‘devil we know’ ....
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Vote write in***
Jun 17, 2020, 5:53 PM
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Re: Vote write in***
Jun 17, 2020, 6:17 PM
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Not for me
Jun 17, 2020, 7:55 PM
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Lot o points [154503]
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Don't blame me.
Jun 17, 2020, 11:01 PM
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I voted for Kang.
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Looks like you've made up your mind based on other posts...
Jun 18, 2020, 1:00 AM
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I'm voting third party or not casting a vote for president at all. I guess if you live in a swing state, that's a different story.
Not sure if I'm sold on Jo Jorgensen yet, but hey, at least she's a Clemson girl.
But I will not vote for one of the two geriatric creeps. But Trump must be removed as president.
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Lot o points [154503]
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You make a lot of contextual assumptions for someone
Jun 18, 2020, 1:14 AM
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Who refuses to let context be used to define their intentions In posts. If you read me literally just like you always ask to be, you’ll see I have, and have always had, concerns about the character of Trump and now Biden.
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Re: “We” will need a viable choice ... there are none.
Jun 18, 2020, 3:34 PM
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Jesus Christ could run against Trump, and his boot lickers would call Jesus a socialist who isn't a viable choice.
Trumpism a cult.
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If Trump were throwing out crazy ideas to see if they stick,
Jun 17, 2020, 6:04 PM
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I wouldn't have an issue if he were just throwing out crazy ideas to try a new approach. While uninformed, a new perspective might be refreshing. This assumes he then listens to folks educated on the matter and shifts accordingly.
For example, I didn't think his 'let's buy Greenland' comment was bad. I didn't think it would ever happen, but understood some logic (natural resources, more gateways to the melting arctic, extra land/base/weapon buffer between Russia, etc). Even his response was surprisingly mature: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1163961884225277954?
This sucking up to dictators, bad twitter habits and trying to punish people not 100% in-line with him is ridiculous.
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Re: We cannot get this fool out of office soon enough
Jun 17, 2020, 8:17 PM
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20Junior24
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Re: We cannot get this fool out of office soon enough
Jun 17, 2020, 8:18 PM
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J2024R
thats code
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Jun 17, 2020, 8:55 PM
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That dumb fugger would never even get outta the primary vs Kanye. ??????
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For me, and I assume it's this way for people
Jun 17, 2020, 9:07 PM
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who are going to have to hold their nose and vote for Biden, it's not a recommendation on Biden or the Dems, it's more about the motivation of Trump.
All of the recent presidents may have had unsavory policy issues, but the overall motivation for each of them was doing stuff that will benefit the country.
Clinton may have been a man ##### but he enacted policies that HE FELT would benefit the American People.
Bush Jr. may have been a complete idiot, but he felt like he had to protect the country by invading Afghanistan.
Obama may have had his issues as well, but he enacted policies that he felt would help the disenfranchised (ACA).
Honestly, about 95% of what I see with Trump is what will benefit Trump only.
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Yep, only cares about himself
Jun 17, 2020, 9:52 PM
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Almost 4 million jobs created since election. More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history. We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election. Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES. Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent. New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low. Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded. African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded. Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years. Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century. Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma. Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years. Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election. The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education. 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever. Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year. Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone. As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years. Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup. Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines. Record number of regulations eliminated. Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE. My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans. Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases. We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone. Signed Right-To-Try legislation. Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic. We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care. Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957. Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord. Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan. Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year. NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016. Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces. Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration. Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal. Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem. Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court. Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay. Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak. Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports. Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security. Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices. Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year. Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement. We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
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All-TigerNet [11011]
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If you believe all that
Jun 17, 2020, 10:43 PM
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boolshid, I got some ocean front property in Ninety Six to sell you.
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Re: We cannot get this fool out of office soon enough
Jun 17, 2020, 9:21 PM
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Too bad Bolton didn't take his opportunity to testify under oath. I wonder why he did that.
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Too bad for our country the
Jun 17, 2020, 10:48 PM
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the Senate was fuggin spineless not requiring him to testify so he could monetize his book.
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Well, the US House could have required it and didn’t. Why?
Jun 18, 2020, 11:10 AM
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Because they were in such a bloody rush to begin impeachment that they couldn’t be bothered with procedure.
Everyone knew that the Senate was not going to go out of their way to call Bolton or anyone else, especially when the House deemed it not worth the time.
Now you have the situation that everyone knew was going to happen as soon as the weak impeachment began.
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And how many trump officials defied
Jun 18, 2020, 2:28 PM
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congressional subpoenas? I wouldn’t describe the impeachment process as weak, but rather obstructed.
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Bolton could have voluntarily testified at any time.
Jun 18, 2020, 5:51 PM
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Instead he held out so he could sell a book.
Is that obstruction?
Will he be forgiven between now and November?
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If I recall correctly, Bolton's lawyer told the House
Jun 19, 2020, 12:47 PM
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if they subpoenaed him they'd challenge it in court. Then he offered to testify in the Senate, to which they sad, "Nah, we're good".
Yes, he's a massive ballbag for making a dollar off our freedom. And I ain't forgivin' shid, I hope earns nothing from all this and remains an object of scorn for the rest of his days. It would be a great example of why we should do the right thing.
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