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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 8, 2015, 9:46 PM
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Why are they still in the ACC? It's past time for an upgrade...
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Tradition***
Mar 8, 2015, 9:52 PM
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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I guess that is something...
Mar 8, 2015, 9:56 PM
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There are a lot of schools out there with tradition though AND a better showcasing in athletics or at least a more national brand....
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Re: Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 8, 2015, 9:55 PM
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No they Bring nothing.
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well.....
Mar 8, 2015, 9:59 PM
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they're no longer associated with the Southern Baptist Convention...that could be construed as somthing!....loljk!
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Re: Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 8, 2015, 9:59 PM
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Weren't they one of the two schools that took up for Clemson during the vote for an extra year of sanctions? That's good enough for me to keep them around.
The other school...I think was Maryland
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Meh, different times different governing bodies...may not
Mar 8, 2015, 10:06 PM
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shake out the same if it were to happen again today.
I'm ready to fire someone and that someone is Wake.
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110%er [5912]
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They are
Mar 8, 2015, 10:12 PM
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the ONLY ACC team to win a National Championship in baseball while a member of the ACC.
They won the ACC football championship in 2006. That's more recent than every other ACC team not named VT, FSU or Clemson.
They have been in the NCAA Basketball Tournament 20 times.
They've won 18 ACC golf championships and 3 national championships.
They won the soccer national championship in 2007.
They've won three women's field hockey national championships.
They have more team national championships than we do.
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Re: and they're in the process of further upgrading
Mar 8, 2015, 10:18 PM
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I love these artist's depictions
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yet another blue sky day in beautiful winston salem.***
Mar 8, 2015, 10:19 PM
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Re: and they're in the process of further upgrading
Mar 8, 2015, 10:46 PM
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Their stadium is no DV but they did a good job renovating it. They are not much on tailgating but never been mistreated there during/after game
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Re: Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 8, 2015, 10:16 PM
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The question becomes: Who is going to replace them? All the schools I see mentioned are far reaches at best. Second question: How are you going to get rid of them? You're not. And it is a pointless argument. Wake isn't going anywhere...whether they "bring anything to the table or not." I might add that Wake has EIGHT NCAA National Championships. I think that is more at least twice the number that Clemson has. Just saying.
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4 ACC Basketball Championships and the same # of
Mar 8, 2015, 10:27 PM
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ACC football championships as we have over the past twenty years, for starters. Also good academics, lots of money, and located within a metropolitan area with a much larger population than anywhere in the entire state of South Carolina.
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Not to mention their relationship with the other 3 ACC
Mar 8, 2015, 10:30 PM
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schools who would not want them to leave the conference.
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Winston Salem 240K. Greenville 63K.
Mar 8, 2015, 10:47 PM
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nm
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Greenville Metro is 851K vs 651K for WS***
Mar 8, 2015, 11:06 PM
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several ways to look at it
Mar 9, 2015, 9:02 AM
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but the Greensboro- Winston-Salem - High Point area has a bigger population than the Greenville - Spartanburg - Anderson area
about 1.6 million to 1.4 million
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Dude, the state of NC allows a city to annex any area
Mar 8, 2015, 11:52 PM
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around it that meets minimal density requirements. I thought that was common knowledge. With the same laws Gville is about 350K.
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Greenville County and the four counties that touch it
Mar 9, 2015, 12:08 AM
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in SC have almost 1/4 of the states population....
From census.gov. Greenville County population is 474k, Spartanburg County 290k, Anderson County 190k, Pickens County 120k, Laurns County 66k.
That is a total of over 1.14M people within a 25 mile radius of downtown Greenville. The entire states population is 4.832M.
For our friends in the midlands, Richland County and the six counties that touch it equal a population of 918k, 200k less than the Greenville area.
Lexington County has a population of 273k, Richland County, 399k, Sumter County, 108k, Calhoun County, 15k, Fairfield County, 23k, Kershaw County, 62k, and Newberry County 38k.
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Is there any precident at all for a school being removed
Mar 8, 2015, 10:40 PM
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from a conference? It just isn't going to happen.
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Until last year, there'd only been ONE school to ever leave
Mar 8, 2015, 10:55 PM
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the ACC.....and I doubt I need to name it
There was a ton of extremely strong sentiment for a decade or more from some Clemson folks to have the university withdraw from the conference....but a couple of presidents, the BOT and the really higher-ups in IPTAY managed to quell the rebellion finally.
But didn't the Big East kick Temple out a few years ago because they couldn't average but about 500 fans to their football games??....in Philadelphia
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yes***
Mar 8, 2015, 11:01 PM
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It was all but a done deal that we were leaving with SC.
Mar 10, 2015, 6:00 PM
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Then Tates Locke went ballistic saying the reason he came to Clemson was because we were in the ACC. We basically left SC hang out to dry. And that my friends is the truth.
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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You all make great points...I was really looking forward
Mar 8, 2015, 10:43 PM
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to firing Wake.
Now that's is looking like it's out of the question...
Looks like Batson, Brownlee, and Jack are all back on the table....
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Wake has great Academics
Mar 8, 2015, 11:02 PM
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You know, kinda the whole goal of an institution.
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There's the SEC for that...***
Mar 8, 2015, 11:08 PM
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Tim Duncan went there
Mar 8, 2015, 11:11 PM
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That's enough for me.
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apparently lots better academics than a certain
Mar 8, 2015, 11:25 PM
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flagship university in chapelhole
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CU Medallion [52020]
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I'd rather get rid of schools like Syracuse
Mar 8, 2015, 11:12 PM
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and UNC (not that it will ever happen) who bring shame to the ACC. Wake Forest has been a member in good standing--a founding member. You don't just throw out founding members of a conference. They also stood by Clemson when Swofford and his minions kicked us while we were down. You can say it's the past and doesn't matter all you want. It does matter.
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Re: Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 8, 2015, 11:18 PM
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They're the ACC's Vanderbilt. Not going anywhere.
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Lots of room for visiting fans at football games, as well as
Mar 8, 2015, 11:19 PM
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great traffic both directions.
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Re: Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 9, 2015, 12:22 AM
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They would do much better stepping down. They don't have the fan base to be in a power 5 confernce.
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A Creepy Pedo of an Old Man Mascot That Gives Me Nightmares
Mar 9, 2015, 6:32 AM
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is About All I See.
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they have an ACC title in football
Mar 9, 2015, 7:39 AM
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Nc state, biggest under achiever in my book
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I like Wake. I want Wake in the ACC.
Mar 9, 2015, 8:01 AM
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I love our away games at Wake and have not missed many of them in decades. Wake offers a great environment to see the Tigers play on the road, with easy access, plenty of parking, and cheap tickets. If you haven't been to Wake for a game, go. Home or away, Wake usually presents a great opportunity for the Tigers to get a Power 5 conference win. Bama has Vandy, Ohio State has Northwestern, Oklahoma has Iowa State and Clemson has Wake Forest. Nothing wrong with any of those match ups.
Wake has historically been a much better basketball program than our Tigers, they won the national title in Baseball in Omaha, the Deacons are an historic golf powerhouse with more titles than any other ACC team and they have been competitive in football. Within the last ten years the Deacons won the ACC and played in the Orange Bowl. Within the last ten years, the Deacons beat Oregon, on the road. From a competitive standpoint, the Deacons have held up their own in conference and nationally.
Clemson is a good school. Wake is a good school. The two schools have played each other in every sport for decades and I enjoy the traditional rivalry. Wake has been competitive in every sport within the ACC and have more than held up their part of the bargain as a conference member.
The Deacons aren't going anywhere. Suggesting they should leave the ACC is absurd.
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Re: I like Wake. I want Wake in the ACC.
Mar 9, 2015, 8:09 AM
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Great school.W-S nice town and they are very competitive across all sports. Dump Syracuse or Pitt first. GO Deacs
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4 football season tickets for $120
Mar 9, 2015, 8:37 AM
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I remember seeing that somewhere.
that's like $5 a ticket.
That alone should eliminate them from D-1 football.
I think most high schools charge more.
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If that's the case, they paid $20 too much***
Mar 9, 2015, 11:22 AM
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Not much anymore but they aren't going anywhere.***
Mar 9, 2015, 8:49 AM
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pretty campus.***
Mar 9, 2015, 10:43 AM
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Yep.
Mar 9, 2015, 11:19 AM
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There's a lady professor there that can suck start a Harley.
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If we are going to kick out a founding member
Mar 9, 2015, 11:34 AM
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then NC State would be the choice. Wake has won the football championship once and the basketball championship twice since NC State last won a title in a money sport (1987)
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Wake Forest/ACC = USuCk/SEC***
Mar 9, 2015, 12:42 PM
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Nothing..
Mar 10, 2015, 5:25 PM
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Except Tim Duncan, Jeff Teague, and Chris Paul. 3 current NBA all-stars.
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Beer sales in the stadium. That should count 4 something....
Mar 10, 2015, 5:32 PM
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NM.
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Re: Does Wake Forest bring ANYTHING to the table?
Mar 10, 2015, 6:05 PM
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They and Md were the only ACC schools to vote against an additional year of probation for us in the early 80s. That's good enough for me.
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They are a FINE small member ....
Mar 10, 2015, 6:50 PM
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of the ACC ...
Also they have class ... also, they have won many Championships
Great Academic Institution
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