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Are we witnessing the death of college football?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:01 PM
 

Nm


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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:02 PM
 




Why do you ask that??***


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Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:05 PM
 

We're getting softer as a society and now it's trickling down to sports. I want to throw up.


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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:05 PM
 

Nm


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I think what got me tonight was

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:10 PM
 

David Pollack talking about the Bosa situation. Basically he said he doesn't blame Bosa for his business decision, but that back in "his day" which wasn't that long ago tbh, they were more about the team and championships. And I totally agree. I don't blame these kids for making the decisions they make but I can't help but think it's to the detriment of the college game.


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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:30 PM
 

I like the answer Dabo gave to the Bosa situation on his teleconference. It's difficult to know all of the details of the Bosa situation, but it was likely that Bosa would have been out til at least late November (per his dad). It's possible that he may not have been able to return until possibly the bowl game. I think the Bosa situation is very different from players choosing not to play in the bowl game simply because they don't want to (Fournette, etc.).


I still think Bosa's image would have looked better if he stayed with the team throughout the year, but I'm sure he will be able to rehab his injury more quickly if he's not in school. Major core injuries can take a very long time to heal and rehab. Although football and baseball are very different, I can remember several times when players had to shut it down for the season because of oblique injuries. Chipper Jones missed a good bit of time one year with an oblique injury.

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As long as CFB is simply minor league NFL we’ll have to

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 1:48 PM
 

deal with “business decisions” from athletes.

The NFL really needs to step up and create a minor league system like baseball. Same with the NBA. Most of the problems in college football and basketball would go away instantly.


As long a CFB is simply a minor league for the NFL we’ll have to


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 1:51 PM
 

deal with “business decisions” from college athletes.

The NFL really needs to step up and create a minor league system like baseball. Same with the NBA. Most of the problems in college football and basketball would go away instantly.


I wish we could witness the death of professional sports ...

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:37 PM
 

That’s just my own personal opinion.

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Why would you get rid of the best players playing at their


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:42 PM
 

peak? Do you not like sports? Or would you just prefer to watch children play them...for free?


Umm what part is free?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:47 PM
 

I know us watching isn't free based on the ticket prices I've paid this year. And the players don't play for free either based on $100k+ in scholarhip money plus the fringes and an opportunity to go the next level.


How much does that education actually cost the school? Who

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:54 PM
 

pays their medical bills after their eligibility is used up? Please don't act like they receive fair compensation for their sacrifices...They don't


If it were up to me then there would be a farm system

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:07 PM
 

just like there is for baseball. Then all these guys wouldn't have to "suffer" through a college education and degree. The vast majority wouldn't make it in the pros, and then where would they be? Better be careful what you wish for.

I would still support Clemson football with the student athletes that remained because that is what college athletics is about...not a bunch of guys out for themselves.

And I don't even know what you're talking about "how much does that education actually cost the school." All those buildings didn't build themselves and classes don't teach themselves. Tuition, Room and Board is about $25-30k/yr now at Clemson. That's in addition to the other funding sources that the school receives. Those players are getting it all for free...including the team medical resources.


Students pay for the teachers and the buildings, the classes


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:16 PM
 

they take are already paid for...And I would hate to see College Football turn into College Baseball, but then I prefer a higher level of play apparently


We're gonna have to agree to disagree then


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:22 PM
 

because IMO college baseball and the College World Series are great...even without 18-20 yo guys from the Dominican Republic on their rosters.


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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:37 PM
 

Why not? It is a wonderful game and very hard to learn...


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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:46 PM
 

Why not? It is a wonderful game and very hard to learn...


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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:46 PM
 

Why not? It is a wonderful game and very hard to learn...


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Fine, point still stands though, the classes they take have


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:50 PM
 

already been paid for by the students


By students I guess you're referring to the ones who


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:56 PM
 

have to work, take out loans and/or have parents pay their tuition, room and board instead of having boosters cut a check on their behalf because they play a game? In the end, it all costs money and someone is paying the bill.


The Professors would be paid the same whether or not an


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:15 AM
 

athlete is in the class, the paying students have already taken care of that...It costs the school ZERO to put an athlete in that classroom


lol there are more costs to classes than just a professor's


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:24 AM
 

salary. There is all kinds of overhead expense as well...from the guy emptying the trash cans, to the secretary in the Dean's office, to the new paint job in the hallway. In fact there is probably too much overhead expense on college campuses today, but that's a whole different argument. And again, someone is paying for all of that, whether it is students, parents or IPTAY. They don't just simply dump football players or any other athletes into the classroom for free.


How much are we spending emptying athlete's trashcans? I


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 10:54 AM
 

want a figure


The school gets paid for every scholarship by IPTAY


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 1:59 PM
 

The school doesn’t give any athletes a free education. IPTAY does. In real money. If you don’t think a college education has actual value then i don’t know why to say.

If they don’t like the rcompensation they receive they can always just go get a job and not go to school I suppose. The NFL is who forces these guys into going to college, not the schools.


Re: Why would you get rid of the best players playing at their

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:49 PM
 

I love sports. But I believe in amateurism.

I’m not a fan of professional sports and pretty much never have been.

It would not bother me if the didn’t exist.

As I said, it’s my personal opinion.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:00 PM
 

Of course not ... but I’m still a fan.

I grew up watching college ball in the 1960s and 1970s.

Today’s college game is as close to professionalism as I want to be a part of.

When they finish at Clemson I don’t follow them any more.

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Sounds like you follow Clemson more than you follow the


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:18 PM
 

sport itself


Been Reading You Posts

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 4:53 AM
 

You're proud of your opinion I can see. If you're trying to impress the other posters, you missed the mark pal.


I'm not trying to impress anybody and I can't think of a


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 10:59 AM
 

single reason I should be ashamed of anything I've said...If it hurts your feelings, don't read it


Back atcha ...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:14 PM
 

And yes, I thought that was clever.

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Re: Why would you get rid of the best players playing at their

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:06 PM
 

I agree 100%! Don't watch pro sports. The college game is so much better.


Re: Why would you get rid of the best players playing at their


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:06 PM
 

I agree 100%! Don't watch pro sports. The college game is so much better.


Re: I wish we could witness the death of professional sports ...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:36 PM
 

If there were no professional sports leagues for amateur players to strive for, I think it would lead to a lower quality of play in college games. As much as we would like to believe that these players are dedicating all of their time for several years of their lives just for the pure competition and to entertain us, there are undoubtedly a large number of players that are dedicating their lives to their sport in the hopes that it will eventually pay off with a professional contract.

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Without pro football

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 2:05 PM
 

College football would be Harvard/Yale, Army/Navy, Citadel/Furman, etc. Nothing wrong with that, but the huge sport of college football as we know it would be over.


Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 10:47 PM
 

It’s the cascading effect of runaway coaches salaries. Bosa looks at his HC making $7M and wonders why he should jeopardize his earning potential for Urban to make more cheddar by trying to come back from surgery too early.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:07 PM
 

They killed balloons too. Sad

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Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:23 PM
 

How about a couple of hot air balloons with tiger paws lifting off behind the Jumbotron as they run down the hill? They could even make some money with balloon rides before and after the games.




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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:56 PM
 

Should make these guys happy I’m sure



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It’s funny, I was just commenting the other day that watching

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:10 PM
 

“Sports” used to be a hobby of mine. Then it became “college sports”...then “college football”...and now it’s “Clemson football”. Part of that is just getting older and having other things to do,but part of it has been the constant stream of crap that comes along with following sports.

And I know I’m in the minority here but I used to get season tickets every year for Clemson football, but the cost to get in has grown so much that I just couldn’t justify it. I know many here think it’s a small price to pay but you can’t deny it’s expensive.

The whole thing (spectator sports) has become so over processed, over priced, over dramatized, over hyped and over politicized that it makes it hard to just watch a game anymore. I sometimes question if I would still follow the Tigers if I didn’t believe in Dabo so much. Luckily I don’t have to worry about that any time soon. And of course...beat State.

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Re: It’s funny, I was just commenting the other day that watching

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:39 PM
 

I get what you're saying I think. When I was at Furman, I'd either leave their games at halftime or just skip altogether to watch Clemson and other "real" games on TV. However, as I got older and went back to a homecoming or two, I really started to appreciate the simplicity and relatively low cost of those games. It's definitely not the huge production of any of the major programs today. I went to a large 4-A high school in SC with a very successful football program, and in some ways it wasn't much more impressive than that. Very few of the players have aspirations or ability to go pro. But the tailgating, rivalry and enjoyment of the game is definitely there. It's really a fun family outing. I've always grown up a Clemson fan and always will be. These past years under Dabo have been incredible, especially after a long drought. I love Clemson being at the top, but I really don't care for the direction that college football in general is going.


+1. I grew up going to Furman games. I love the experience of

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 2:06 PM
 

a small school gameday.


They were a little better back in the day but


Posted: Oct 19, 2018 12:06 AM
 

Still a great family atmosphere over there and I’d say that campus and Clemson’s are two of the prettiest around


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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:43 PM
 

I pretty much agree with most of what you said. I still keep up with the playoffs in multiple sports, but the only games I make a point of watching in any sport are Clemson football, Clemson MBB, and Houston Texans (bc of all the Clemson players).


I try to separate all of the over-dramatization of sports with the actual game itself. There are several sports pundits (Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless, that guys on FTF with Cris Carter, etc.) that makes minor issues in sports sound like life and death situations. I can't fault the networks for airing that stuff because they exist specifically to attract viewers and those shows get ratings. But I can choose not to watch them outside of a few random clips on Youtube.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:44 PM
 

I pretty much agree with most of what you said. I still keep up with the playoffs in multiple sports, but the only games I make a point of watching in any sport are Clemson football, Clemson MBB, and Houston Texans (bc of all the Clemson players).


I try to separate all of the over-dramatization of sports with the actual game itself. There are several sports pundits (Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless, that guys on FTF with Cris Carter, etc.) that makes minor issues in sports sound like life and death situations. I can't fault the networks for airing that stuff because they exist specifically to attract viewers and those shows get ratings. But I can choose not to watch them outside of a few random clips on Youtube.

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Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:26 PM
 

I don't think it will ever die.....at least not in our lifetimes. That being said, the proliferation of technology and availability has diluted it quite a bit. In other words, one can watch any game on a movie size screen without any real effort, The impact on revenue is very real.

The other challenge are the many choices available now in schools. Football, basketball, and baseball are no longer the only games in town. Those many choices mean a lot of folks arrive in a college environment and have no interest in attending the traditional sports events.

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Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:39 PM
 

If they haven’t killed football yet with all they now know it probably won’t happen. Too much $$$ involved.

The notion that college football or basketball players aren’t fairly compensated is an argument only used by the uninformed, or politicized, observer.


Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:34 PM
 

I know I probably speak for a silent majority of college football fans when I say I HATE the direction college football is going. Can't hold it against the players, but they shouldn't hold it against us either. We long for the days of team sports being actual team sports.


Re: Are we witnessing the death of college football?


Posted: Oct 16, 2018 11:41 PM
 

The networks try to artificially diversify regional significance to open more markets, but they know it’s the southeast, and its Clemson and Bama, again this year.


Gamecock Football Maybe


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 3:21 AM
 

Clemson Football, NOPE we're just getting started. Did you not hear Coach Swinney when he said, "The Best Is Yet To Come."

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I think you’re onto something...


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 10:59 AM
 

The fact that it’s more popular and generates more revenue than ever before is just a smokescreen for its demise.


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Posted: Oct 17, 2018 12:45 PM
 

I would like all 3 or 4(?) Divisions of college football get together and put public pressure on the NFL for some funding of their (in effect) Farm System.. MLB ponies up the $$$$ and pays for their Minor Leagues, but the BILLIONAIRES of the NFL just suck the college system dry and do not flip a nickel toward this CASH COW/// Amazing that the most edumacated people around (college administrations) cannot see this...

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